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Post by onelasttime on May 30, 2022 3:07:43 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on May 30, 2022 12:33:41 GMT
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naby64
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Jun 25, 2014 21:44:13 GMT
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Post by naby64 on May 30, 2022 13:02:25 GMT
And sadly a 7 yr old from my little town was shot and killed Friday. On her way to the zoo. I'm done. How many more babies have to die? Adults?
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Post by onelasttime on May 31, 2022 21:38:21 GMT
A response…
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Post by Gem Girl on May 31, 2022 22:00:36 GMT
I'm tired of living in the world of Mad Max....
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Post by gar on May 31, 2022 22:51:13 GMT
What are those women thinking 😳 Seriously, what??
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valincal
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Post by valincal on May 31, 2022 23:15:12 GMT
What are those women thinking 😳 Seriously, what?? They’re a bunch of bad bitches. You mean you’re not impressed? How else can they stop the bad guys from stealing their Kohl’s Cash? 🤪
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casii
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Post by casii on Jun 1, 2022 15:38:01 GMT
The grocery store gun robbery is some Darwin's Law in action. The small town my middle child lives in canceled school today on the advice of local police due to an online threat of gun violence. It was to be the last day of school with many celebrations including the 5th Grade Graduation. Poor kids.
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 1, 2022 17:51:50 GMT
This….
Equals this….
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 1, 2022 18:04:20 GMT
I like you Paul but CA passed such a law and it was shot down by two trump appointed judges. You know that because you mentioned in one of your other columns.
And if the State law is shot down what makes you think it will survive challenges on the Federal level?
“Opinion How Democrats can salvage their doomed gun-reform effort”
By Paul Waldman
If I asked you which congressional Democrats are proposing to change America’s gun laws in the wake of the Buffalo and Uvalde massacres, would you be able to answer? Probably not. You may have seen news stories saying they’re advocating for a package of reforms and are trying to win Republican support for some kind of response.
This effort is almost certain to fail, and well beyond not producing gun-safety legislation. It could demoralize the Democratic base, reinforce the Republican position that horrific gun violence is something we just have to live with, and make it harder for the gun-safety movement to win future victories.
There’s another course Democrats could take: For now, they could put aside their long list of reforms and focus on one thing. Not an omnibus package, but a single proposal that everyone understands, wouldn’t be hard to implement, has public support, might incrementally bring down deaths, and makes Republicans who oppose it sound like monsters.
The proposal that fits this bill is a national law requiring anyone to be 21 years old to purchase a semiautomatic rifle.
It’s one of the things Democrats are proposing — but it’s part of a grab-bag of ideas. In the House, Democrats are pushing the Protecting Our Kids Act, which would also crack down on straw purchases, limit “ghost guns,” require parents to store guns safely, close a bump stock loophole, and limit sales of large-capacity magazines. In the Senate, the focus is narrower but still includes numerous ideas.
All of which are perfectly worthwhile. But when it all falls in the face of Republican stonewalling, Democrats will have nothing to show for it. And it will fall, because the more you include, the easier it becomes for Republicans to oppose it. They don’t have to justify their position in detail. They can just say, “Democrats want to restrict law-abiding people’s rights in a hundred ways, I can’t sign on to that.”
Which is exactly what they’ll do. They’re already laying the groundwork even as they pretend to engage in good-faith negotiations. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) told reporters Tuesday that senators are “discussing how we might be able to come together to target the problem, which is mental illness and school safety.”
In other words, Republicans won’t consider limitations on guns, but they might be willing to throw a few million dollars at states to buy new locks for elementary school doors.
So make them answer this question, again and again and again: Why exactly do teenagers need to buy AR-15s?
You might say, “You won’t get 10 Republican senators to sign on to even that, so the Republican filibuster will succeed.” And it probably will. But at the very least, the chances are a little bit higher that with enough public pressure, some of them might be willing to agree to that one proposal.
But public pressure must be focused. You’ll never get the public to understand, support and rally around a bill that does 12 different things.
If this is the only proposal on the table for now, every Republican will get asked the same question: Why does a teenager need an AR-15? Only a few Republicans have been asked so far, and they have no idea how to answer. This ought to be a no-brainer. Federal law already requires you to be 21 before buying a handgun from a licensed dealer, or 18 from a private seller. It wouldn’t require any new bureaucracy to make the rule uniform: You must be 21 to buy a handgun or a semiautomatic rifle from anyone, period.
All of us (or at least everyone who isn’t a libertarian nut) agree that there should be some age minimum for purchasing weapons of war. We know teenagers have poor impulse control while their brains are still developing. At the very least, we should be able to say that 18 is too young, and 21 is the absolute minimum we can tolerate.
After the Parkland massacre in 2018, polls asked people whether they thought you should have to be 21 to buy a gun. Support for the idea ran between 70 and 80 percent.
Because the idea is simple to understand and so popular, even if such legislation fails in Congress, we could have a real debate about it. That could create momentum for similar legislation at the state level.
Some states already require people to be 21 before buying guns; New York is moving to increase the age for buying a semiautomatic rifle from 18 to 21. This can and should be a focus of lobbying (in states where such legislation might be possible) and ballot drives (in red states where the GOP legislature won’t do it but voters might). Changing the minimum age for gun purchases can be a focus for organizing and mobilizing support, one that has a good chance of yielding results, if not everywhere then at least in some places.
It’s not too late for Democrats to abandon the doomed-to-failure grab-bag approach they’re now pursuing. They probably assume this is the only opportunity they’ll have to pass any gun legislation for who knows how long, and that’s why they’re throwing everything they can into the mix.
But that’s precisely why they’ll lose, politically and substantively, unless they change course. It’s not too late, but it soon will be.”
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 1, 2022 22:58:01 GMT
Since this shooting is near a medical building does that mean the Republicans will want to arm doctors & nurses?
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 1, 2022 23:08:25 GMT
I guess we have to arm the doctors, nurses, lab technicians and whoever else works at hospitals.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 1, 2022 23:26:50 GMT
Like the response... It's the guns...
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 1, 2022 23:37:41 GMT
I hadn’t thought about teaching the patients self-defense as they are admitted.
These are the questions the media should be asking Republicans after this shooting.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 2, 2022 0:32:48 GMT
At least 4 dead, not including the shooter. Multiple injured, at least 10.
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 2, 2022 1:40:48 GMT
He may have a point…
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 2, 2022 2:37:58 GMT
Now they have gone from mental illness to pot as reasons for these mass shooting.
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Post by smasonnc on Jun 2, 2022 14:25:46 GMT
Limit, not outlaw? Is there some reason a person needs to have an untraceable firearm shipped to their home?
"High potency cannabis may have played a role..." Yeah, that's the ticket. Let's outlaw cannabis. Oh, right, most places already have. No sense interfering with a teenager's right to "bare" arms, as the gun nuts say. Maybe we should just arm schoolchildren so they can defend themselves against a gun-toting pothead who manages to get into their super fortified school. What could go wrong? I'm so angry and frustrated.
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Post by epeanymous on Jun 2, 2022 15:59:20 GMT
The Tulsa shooter got his guns the day of the shooting. Seems like it would be a good idea to crack down on impulse firearm purchases.
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 2, 2022 16:00:00 GMT
My to do list today.
1. But an AR Semiautomatic type gun.
2. Go to the hospital/medical center and kill 4 people.
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 2, 2022 16:54:01 GMT
Now they have gone from mental illness to pot to the 1960’s as a reason for mass shootings.
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naby64
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Post by naby64 on Jun 2, 2022 16:56:32 GMT
Now they have gone from mental illness to pot to the 1960’s as a reason for mass shootings. My DH, who is a Fox News person, had the TV on as I was putting up clothes. I hear Laura Ingram and a guest talking about it. I told DH to let his friends know they need to start stashing their week. That is the next thing the Repubs will come after. He rolled his eyes. As he does anytime I say anything against his beloved right. Even though it is coming out of their mouths.
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Post by maryland on Jun 2, 2022 20:33:46 GMT
What are those women thinking 😳 Seriously, what?? Exactly! If they feel Target is so dangerous they need a weapon, don't go to Target! Order online if you are that scared.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 2, 2022 23:37:20 GMT
No clue on the outcome... Man ran into PD dept having been shot... Authorities in Texas have a barricaded suspect situation after a man walked into the Alvin Police Department lobby at 8:50 a.m. with a gunshot wound, the department announced. Captain Tim Hubbard said the situation is ongoing and there are no other known victims. KHOU-TV describes the response as a "massive police operation." "A nearby shopping center parking lot was taped off as dozens of police cruisers were parked and a mobile command post was set up," the network reported. "A worker who answered the phone at a nearby business told KHOU 11 News that police officers began rushing into the parking lot, but nobody had told them why there was a massive presence of officers or why the parking lot was blocked off." www.rawstory.com/alvin-texas-police/
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 3, 2022 2:51:34 GMT
Yup another one .. Not a mass shooting though.. 3 dead including the shooter.. at a church program. 3 dead after shooting outside of Cornerstone Church in Ames KCCI Updated: 9:42 PM CDT Jun 2, 2022 AMES, Iowa — The Story County Sheriff's Office says a shooting took place outside of Cornerstone Church on the eastern edge of Ames on Thursday night. Officials say they received multiple 911 calls at 6:51 p.m. on Thursday. Two people and the male shooter are dead. The shooting happened during a church program. There are currently no reports of others being injured. A KCCI crew at the scene saw crime scene tape around the church parking lot with ambulances and other emergency vehicles responding. The sheriff's office says there is not an ongoing threat to the public. This is a developing story. KCCI is following the story for any updates. www.kcci.com/article/cornerstone-church-ames-iowa-police-presence/40181931#
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 4, 2022 22:42:48 GMT
Gun was secured, kid was 12, no one injured... Watch: 12-year-old allegedly opens fire during gas station robbery Bob Brigham June 04, 2022 The newspaper obtained surveillance video from the gas station showing the kid pull a gun from a black backpack and instructing the clerk to "put the money in the bag." *** I thought he was a kid, not even 10 years old," the woman, only identified as Jessica, told the station. "He sounded way too calm," she explained. "I seriously thought it was a prank until I heard the gun go off." www.rawstory.com/12-year-old-gas-station-robbery/
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Post by chances on Jun 5, 2022 3:44:26 GMT
Gun was secured, kid was 12, no one injured... Watch: 12-year-old allegedly opens fire during gas station robbery Bob Brigham June 04, 2022 The newspaper obtained surveillance video from the gas station showing the kid pull a gun from a black backpack and instructing the clerk to "put the money in the bag." *** I thought he was a kid, not even 10 years old," the woman, only identified as Jessica, told the station. "He sounded way too calm," she explained. "I seriously thought it was a prank until I heard the gun go off." www.rawstory.com/12-year-old-gas-station-robbery/Omg 😳. What type of country do we live in? I mean I know but sometimes even I get surprised about how easily children access guns.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 20, 2022 1:12:10 GMT
Drive-by at a family BBQ in Texas. 2 dead, 5 injured... Way to go Texas... Can't do that damage with a knife!! *** San Antonio At least two people were killed and five others were injured in a drive-by shooting on a family barbecue late Saturday, San Antonio police said. “The family was barbecuing out in front of the house,” Police Chief William McManus said at a news conference early Sunday. He added that a vehicle drove by and “unloaded on them about 20 to 30 rounds.” www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mass-shooting-family-barbecue-leaves-least-2-dead-san-antonio-rcna34284
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 20, 2022 2:43:34 GMT
ABC UPDATE: four people shot including 15 yr old juvenile died.
Multiple people shot in Washington, DC, including police officer
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 20, 2022 14:19:01 GMT
Early Monday Morning…
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