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Post by SabrinaP on Jun 7, 2022 17:45:08 GMT
Has anyone seen the revival of Oklahoma? I see it tomorrow. Being from Oklahoma, I’ve of course seen this show many many times. I love it so much. I’ve heard how dark this revival is. People are posting on the local theaters’ Facebook groups and talking about how bad it is and how they left at intermission. I’m going in with an open mind and am intrigued to see this interpretation of the show. I was just wondering if any Peas have seen it either with the traveling cast or saw it on Broadway.
Update:
We saw it last night. OMG people on Facebook were being so overly dramatic about it. It wasn’t even that dark! It was very different from any time I’ve ever seen it before. The staging was simple. I feel like this staging would have been much better in the smaller theaters on Broadway. On tour in the huge theaters it didn’t work as well. I would say more people left at intermission than normal, but no more than like 10% left. It was just very slow. The ending reprise of Oklahoma was very odd too. Overall not my favorite production, but it was fine.
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Post by malibou on Jun 7, 2022 18:13:10 GMT
The only thing I know about the musical is that they sing a song about Gary, Indiana, which is where I was born. I could never understand why the song sounded so fun, as Gary, Indiana absolutely has to be the asshole of America. Lol I'm in my late 50s and remember as a little girl hearing about how even the police in Gary, Indiana wouldn't stop at street lights there. We didn't live in Gary, but my parents were always a bit embarrassed that 2 of the 5 of us were born there.
I was born in the same hospital as Michael Jackson, and for years, I was listed as the longest baby born there. I was 23.5 inches long. Kind of funny, because I'm pretty short at 5'3" and am much shorter than my 5'8" siblings.
Perhaps it will bring forward the darkness of Gary, Indiana! 😀
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Post by MichyM on Jun 7, 2022 19:26:59 GMT
I'll be honest. Considering where you live, I'm not surprised at all that people are walking out at intermission. I'll leave it at that.
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Post by Tearisci on Jun 7, 2022 21:01:22 GMT
My sister saw it this weekend and said it was horrible. They almost left at intermission and were sad that they didn't.
She said it's really really dark and creepy.
I think if you're a fan of the original, this will be a disappointment.
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Post by SabrinaP on Jun 7, 2022 21:06:09 GMT
I'll be honest. Considering where you live, I'm not surprised at all that people are walking out at intermission. I'll leave it at that. That’s exactly my thoughts and I was hoping that was it since I’m a Texas liberal and definitely don’t hold the views of the majority. I already know that Ado Annie is being played by a transgender woman which I have a feeling has upset some of the people I’ve read reviews from.
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Post by supersoda on Jun 7, 2022 21:44:30 GMT
We saw it a couple of weeks ago in Dallas. I REALLY wanted to see it on Broadway. It’s one of my favorites and I was anxious to see how they modernized it.
It is much darker than the original. The songs are arranged differently and take on new meanings. Poor Jud… is right before intermission and we saw some folks leave during that song.
I’m pretty sure you’re seeing the same tour I just saw and one of the supporting characters is trans, so I can see that not going over well in OK.
The original remains my favorite, but I did enjoy the new take. Our biggest criticisms were technical (I attended with my kid who’s majoring in technical theater and lighting design and their girlfriend who just graduated with an emphasis in stage management. They’ve both seen a lot of Broadway and experimental theater.)
We thought some of the lighting choices odd. It’s a simplistic set and all of the actors remain on stage throughout the performance, which was sometimes confusing. They didn’t mike their performers through the show and their voices got lost in our enormous theater (at times they use hand mikes).
Overall, I’m glad I saw this version, but I didn’t love it the way I love the old movie. I can see anyone who did. It understand that this was a reimagined version being a little surprised or unhappy.
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Post by MichyM on Jun 7, 2022 21:55:34 GMT
I'll be honest. Considering where you live, I'm not surprised at all that people are walking out at intermission. I'll leave it at that. That’s exactly my thoughts and I was hoping that was it since I’m a Texas liberal and definitely don’t hold the views of the majority. I already know that Ado Annie is being played by a transgender woman which I have a feeling has upset some of the people I’ve read reviews from. You’ll be fine. It’s a different interpretation of the show. You may like, or may not. It is a bit controversial. I’ve seen hundreds of shows, here and in NYC and other cities when visiting, good and bad, but only left at intermission once.
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Post by myshelly on Jun 7, 2022 22:13:58 GMT
I don’t think it’s bad, I just think people get mad anytime anything changes.
I was alternately laughing and raging at the Broadway Dallas page with all the yokels complaining. The purpose of Broadway Dallas (and I’m sure whatever theater organization you’re seeing it through) is to bring shows that are currently or recently on Broadway to Dallas, so, no, ya old fart this isn’t the Oklahoma! You saw fifty odd years ago, it’s the Oklahoma that was recently on Broadway. That’s not directed at the OP, that’s directed at the social media idiots.
I will also say that while I don’t think the tour is bad, I think the show worked better on Broadway because it was at a (relatively) small theater in the round where the cast directly interacted with the audience and you just can’t replicate that in the tour theaters.
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Post by scraplette on Jun 7, 2022 22:19:49 GMT
I'll be honest. Considering where you live, I'm not surprised at all that people are walking out at intermission. I'll leave it at that. Hmmm, I’d give Oklahomans more credit than what you are implying about this subject. Most of us born and raised Okies know the musical backwards and forwards, no one accepts the presentation as gospel but enjoy its spirit. Usually when Oklahoma is sung everyone is on their feet singing and clapping, my college even has an addition that is shouted. Like any change, some are going to be fine while others want the original. It’s not an ideology issue. We saw it on Broadway in August 2019. Ali Stoker was scheduled, but there was an amazing stand in. We sat on the row behind the tables. The Jud and Laurey movie scenes scared me as much as flying moneys when I was a child. This seemed darker than the usual stage production. Curly’s trial was as confusing as always- if you’re popular you can shoot someone… That aside it was fun to see a different presentation- and the choreography is better than ever!
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Post by scraplette on Jun 7, 2022 22:26:20 GMT
malibou I think Gary Indiana is in Music Man. Imagine if that was updated! Newcomer man befriending a small boy?
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Post by MichyM on Jun 7, 2022 22:30:27 GMT
I'll be honest. Considering where you live, I'm not surprised at all that people are walking out at intermission. I'll leave it at that. Hmmm, I’d give Oklahomans more credit than what you are implying about this subject. Most of us born and raised Okies know the musical backwards and forwards, no one accepts the presentation as gospel but enjoy its spirit. Usually when Oklahoma is sung everyone is on their feet singing and clapping, my college even has an addition that is shouted. Like any change, some are going to be fine while others want the original. It’s not an ideology issue. We saw it on Broadway in August 2019. Ali Stoker was scheduled, but there was an amazing stand in. We sat on the row behind the tables. The Jud and Laurey movie scenes scared me as much as flying moneys when I was a child. This seemed darker than the usual stage production. Curly’s trial was as confusing as always- if you’re popular you can shoot someone… That aside it was fun to see a different presentation- and the choreography is better than ever! I have no problem with people who live in any one area of the country. I’m sorry if my post implied otherwise. All I known is what’s been said about different stops on the tour, as well as this production as a whole. I’d like to believe all theater-goers throughout the country watch a show through the same lens. That’s simply not the case.
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Post by SabrinaP on Jun 7, 2022 22:31:55 GMT
I don’t think it’s bad, I just think people get mad anytime anything changes. I was alternately laughing and raging at the Broadway Dallas page with all the yokels complaining. The purpose of Broadway Dallas (and I’m sure whatever theater organization you’re seeing it through) is to bring shows that are currently or recently on Broadway to Dallas, so, no, ya old fart this isn’t the Oklahoma! You saw fifty odd years ago, it’s the Oklahoma that was recently on Broadway. That’s not directed at the OP, that’s directed at the social media idiots. I will also say that while I don’t think the tour is bad, I think the show worked better on Broadway because it was at a (relatively) small theater in the round where the cast directly interacted with the audience and you just can’t replicate that in the tour theaters. I’m a season ticket holder to Broadway Dallas and I’ve been reading on their page as well as Bass Performance Hall in Fort Worth. Most people are absolutely going off the rails about the show. I’ve never seen anything like it before for a show. It’s making me very interested to see it to see what all the fuss is. Like I said I’m fully prepared for a darker version.
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Post by peabay on Jun 7, 2022 22:49:57 GMT
I don’t think it’s bad, I just think people get mad anytime anything changes. I was alternately laughing and raging at the Broadway Dallas page with all the yokels complaining. The purpose of Broadway Dallas (and I’m sure whatever theater organization you’re seeing it through) is to bring shows that are currently or recently on Broadway to Dallas, so, no, ya old fart this isn’t the Oklahoma! You saw fifty odd years ago, it’s the Oklahoma that was recently on Broadway. That’s not directed at the OP, that’s directed at the social media idiots. I will also say that while I don’t think the tour is bad, I think the show worked better on Broadway because it was at a (relatively) small theater in the round where the cast directly interacted with the audience and you just can’t replicate that in the tour theaters. I’m a season ticket holder to Broadway Dallas and I’ve been reading on their page as well as Bass Performance Hall in Fort Worth. Most people are absolutely going off the rails about the show. I’ve never seen anything like it before for a show. It’s making me very interested to see it to see what all the fuss is. Like I said I’m fully prepared for a darker version. A lot of people in NY did too. It was very controversial - and that's what you get when you change a classic.
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Post by scraplette on Jun 7, 2022 22:51:05 GMT
[/quote] I’m a season ticket holder to Broadway Dallas and I’ve been reading on their page as well as Bass Performance Hall in Fort Worth. Most people are absolutely going off the rails about the show. I’ve never seen anything like it before for a show. It’s making me very interested to see it to see what all the fuss is. Like I said I’m fully prepared for a darker version. [/quote] Its got to be due to change. myshelly made me laugh with her fifty years comment. I don’t recall much hoopla over Evan Hansen (sp?) or others prone to religious or philosophical opinions.
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Post by cade387 on Jun 7, 2022 23:00:12 GMT
I’m off to read about the new version but we did Oklahoma! In high school. It was pretty effin’ dark back then. Did people just gloss over it before or have they made it even darker?
It is one thing to sing Oklahoma or the surrey with the fringe on top but that is not the whole musical by any means.
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Post by SabrinaP on Jun 7, 2022 23:04:55 GMT
I’m off to read about the new version but we did Oklahoma! In high school. It was pretty effin’ dark back then. Did people just gloss over it before or have they made it even darker? It is one thing to sing Oklahoma or the surrey with the fringe on top but that is not the whole musical by any means. They’ve kept all the original dialogue and score, but deliver it differently. Entire scenes are done in the dark. Apparently there is quite a bit of blood in the scene where Judd is shot and now it’s less like an accident. I’m sure there are more changes, but those are some I’ve heard. I’ve always found parts of the show dark, so I’m willing to give it a chance.
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Post by cade387 on Jun 7, 2022 23:17:11 GMT
I’m off to read about the new version but we did Oklahoma! In high school. It was pretty effin’ dark back then. Did people just gloss over it before or have they made it even darker? It is one thing to sing Oklahoma or the surrey with the fringe on top but that is not the whole musical by any means. They’ve kept all the original dialogue and score, but deliver it differently. Entire scenes are done in the dark. Apparently there is quite a bit of blood in the scene where Judd is shot and now it’s less like an accident. I’m sure there are more changes, but those are some I’ve heard. I’ve always found parts of the show dark, so I’m willing to give it a chance. Just read a bit on the current tour, but in reference to your comment, for us Jud was stabbed but it wasn’t portrayed as an accident when we did it in the mid 1990s. Sounds like he is shot and not stabbed now and I can get why shots fired in a theater in the dark would have people on edge given all of the nonsense going on.
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Post by supersoda on Jun 7, 2022 23:29:50 GMT
They’ve kept all the original dialogue and score, but deliver it differently. Entire scenes are done in the dark. Apparently there is quite a bit of blood in the scene where Judd is shot and now it’s less like an accident. I’m sure there are more changes, but those are some I’ve heard. I’ve always found parts of the show dark, so I’m willing to give it a chance. Just read a bit on the current tour, but in reference to your comment, for us Jud was stabbed but it wasn’t portrayed as an accident when we did it in the mid 1990s. Sounds like he is shot and not stabbed now and I can get why shots fired in a theater in the dark would have people on edge given all of the nonsense going on. I got 3 emails before our show, an insert in the playbill, and an audio warning at the start of the show about the firearm props and gunshots during the show.
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Post by cade387 on Jun 7, 2022 23:35:49 GMT
Just read a bit on the current tour, but in reference to your comment, for us Jud was stabbed but it wasn’t portrayed as an accident when we did it in the mid 1990s. Sounds like he is shot and not stabbed now and I can get why shots fired in a theater in the dark would have people on edge given all of the nonsense going on. I got 3 emails before our show, an insert in the playbill, and an audio warning at the start of the show about the firearm props and gunshots during the show. So if there are those kind of warnings, why do you think people are walking out mid-show? Curly was always an arrogant a-hole who made no secret of suggesting to Jud that the world would be better off without him. The dream ballet sequence has always been long and dark. I learned a LOT doing that show and also felt like we should not have had the elementary kids visit for a matinee during that week 😫
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Post by MichyM on Jun 7, 2022 23:41:31 GMT
I got 3 emails before our show, an insert in the playbill, and an audio warning at the start of the show about the firearm props and gunshots during the show. So if there are those kind of warnings, why do you think people are walking out mid-show? Curly was always an arrogant a-hole who made no secret of suggesting to Jud that the world would be better off without him. The dream ballet sequence has always been long and dark. I learned a LOT doing that show and also felt like we should not have had the elementary kids visit for a matinee during that week 😫 Because people don't read that stuff, particualrly subscribers, who fill a good number of the seats of many tour houses. I remember seeing a production of The Full Monty, and people were shocked at intermission. SHOCKED. I mean come ooonnn, with that name?!? LOL, off my soapbox.
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Post by myshelly on Jun 7, 2022 23:57:26 GMT
I got 3 emails before our show, an insert in the playbill, and an audio warning at the start of the show about the firearm props and gunshots during the show. So if there are those kind of warnings, why do you think people are walking out mid-show? Curly was always an arrogant a-hole who made no secret of suggesting to Jud that the world would be better off without him. The dream ballet sequence has always been long and dark. I learned a LOT doing that show and also felt like we should not have had the elementary kids visit for a matinee during that week 😫 I think people have no idea what they’re buying tickets to and walked out because they were pissed it wasn’t the same show they remembered.
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Post by myshelly on Jun 8, 2022 0:04:34 GMT
So many people are saying “too many guns on stage” and I just wanna say, did y’all bitches walk outa Les Mis?
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Post by malibou on Jun 8, 2022 0:53:46 GMT
malibou I think Gary Indiana is in Music Man. Imagine if that was updated! Newcomer man befriending a small boy? I'm sure you are right. My musical theater knowledge sucks. Still a weird song.
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Post by auntkelly on Jun 8, 2022 15:28:02 GMT
I saw the revival in Oklahoma City last January. The theatre was full and I didn't notice any mass exodus at intermission. I don't know if they do this everywhere, but the cast encouraged the audience to join in when they sang Oklahoma! Everyone around me clapped and sang along. I felt like the cast got a warm reception at the end, especially the actor who played Laurie, because she was an alumni of Oklahoma City University. I think most of the theatre goers were aware going in that this revival was very different from the original. (The revival naturally received a lot more press attention in Oklahoma, than the revival of some other classical musical would have received).
I'm glad I saw the revival, but I probably wouldn't go see the darker version again. I would however love to see the classic version again with a more diverse cast.
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Post by SabrinaP on Jun 9, 2022 15:47:05 GMT
Update:
We saw it last night. OMG people on Facebook were being so overly dramatic about it. It wasn’t even that dark! It was very different from any time I’ve ever seen it before. The staging was simple. I feel like this staging would have been much better in the smaller theaters on Broadway. On tour in the huge theaters it didn’t work as well. I would say more people left at intermission than normal, but no more than like 10% left. It was just very slow. The ending reprise of Oklahoma was very odd too. Overall not my favorite production, but it was fine.
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Post by scraplette on Jun 10, 2022 1:47:46 GMT
auntkelly love that! My parents were season ticket holders to what was then called Lyric Theatre, as I recall. My brother and I grew up seeing at least one OCU musical a season. I wonder how many future “famous” actors we saw!
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Post by Texas Scrap on Jun 10, 2022 4:01:40 GMT
I saw opening night in Dallas and we did leave at intermission, which I have never done. I grew up going to see shows on broadway and am a season ticket holder. I had no idea there was any controversy surrounding the show so we went into it without any preconceptions. And I probably fall on the progressive side of things so I was not offended by the statement on guns or the transgender actor.
For us we felt like the staging was confusing, the story was dark, but beyond that it was just not a cohesive production from my/my college daughters view. I thought the leads were talented and the cast overall had potential, but it just felt disjointed. We had an early morning and felt bad for leaving but at the same time, we were not enjoying it and I’ve seen all kinds of shows. I usually just stick it out.
I almost wonder if the unpredictable audience response is impacting the actors? I hate that for them.
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