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Post by elaine on Aug 15, 2022 22:43:28 GMT
Invitation to the right wing peas to explain how the GOP can claim to “back the blue” and call for violence against the FBI at the same time.
I simply don't understand how the GOP leadership can sit silently while Trump’s followers are targeting and threatening the FBI while claiming to support law enforcement out the other side of their mouths.
Clarification would be appreciated.
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Post by scrappinmama on Aug 15, 2022 22:49:59 GMT
I don't know if you will get a response from Trump leaning Republicans. I think they are in denial and/or see those agents as the enemy, so they justify it all.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 15, 2022 22:51:01 GMT
Even FOX. Is telling them to stop !
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Post by elaine on Aug 15, 2022 22:55:18 GMT
I don't know if you will get a response from Trump leaning Republicans. I think they are in denial and/or see those agents as the enemy, so they justify it all. I “understand,” but wasn’t the response on their part for LEO who made egregious errors (usually resulting in the deaths of POC) that “one bad apple doesn't spoil the bunch”? So, why is it different now? |
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 15, 2022 23:12:43 GMT
It’s a good question, esp. in light of the GOP meltdown over “Defund the Police,” which wasn’t even a thing, and what some members of Congress have been saying about the FBI. The FBI is far from perfect, but regarding the current investigation, the howls of outrage from conservative politicians ring a little hollow.
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Post by scrappinmama on Aug 15, 2022 23:15:45 GMT
It’s a good question, esp. in light of the GOP meltdown over “Defund the Police,” which wasn’t even a thing, and what some members of Congress have been saying about the FBI. The FBI is far from perfect, but regarding the current investigation, the howls of outrage from conservative politicians rings a little hollow. And it's so ironic that they are now screaming "Defund the FBI". |
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Post by monklady123 on Aug 15, 2022 23:56:54 GMT
I don't know if you will get a response from Trump leaning Republicans. I think they are in denial and/or see those agents as the enemy, so they justify it all. I “understand,” but wasn’t the response on their part for LEO who made egregious errors (usually resulting in the deaths of POC) that “one bad apple doesn't spoil the bunch”? So, why is it different now? It's different now because with the Republicans it's *always* different now... It -- whatever "it" is -- is okay if they want to do it, but not okay if they think the Democrats did it. Imagine the frothing at the mouth if President Obama had taken classified documents out of the White House. But it's okay for trump to do it because, well because it's trump.  |
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Post by pinklady on Aug 16, 2022 0:10:53 GMT
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 16, 2022 0:32:50 GMT
Just saw this timely little nugget on Twitter: www.axios.com/2022/08/16/defund-fbi-trump-republicans-midtermsFrom the article: “ Republicans used the "defund the police" slogan after George Floyd's murder to paint the Democratic Party as radical. But since the FBI's search of Mar-a-Lago, a growing number of GOP candidates and lawmakers are rallying around their own calls to defund or abolish federal law enforcement agencies. Why it matters: The new demands muddle a narrative embraced by Republicans long before the Black Lives Matter demonstrations of 2020 — that they are the party of law enforcement. They also show how much former President Trump has reshaped his party. Strategists say it could jeopardize the GOP's chances in some contests in November. The big question: Could this become the new Trump loyalty litmus test?” And “ The National Republican Congressional Committee has routinely hit Democrats this cycle over ties to groups that support defunding the police. “Every voter knows Democrats are the party of defund the police. Americans are experiencing record violent crime as a direct of Democrats’ efforts to vilify law enforcement and push pro-criminal policies like cashless bail," said NRCC spokesperson Michael McAdams.” The article names quite a few Republicans, many of them candidates, who are going full MAGA on federal LE. This is no longer a serious party. |
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Post by MorningPerson on Aug 16, 2022 0:48:17 GMT
I will never EVER understand any of this. So much denial, so much cognitive dissonance, so many people selling their souls. For Donald.Fricken.Trump.
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 16, 2022 1:01:56 GMT
I will never EVER understand any of this. So much denial, so much cognitive dissonance, so many people selling their souls. For Donald.Fricken.Trump. Right? It’s really mind-boggling. I know that conservative politicians are terrified of Trump and his base, but this is truly historic toadying. |
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Post by tara on Aug 16, 2022 3:00:55 GMT
You know if one of them has the guts to answer it will include something about Hillary’s emails and Hunter’s laptop.
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Post by hopemax on Aug 16, 2022 3:15:49 GMT
The Emperor’s New Clothes is a folktale for a reason. We’re not as evolved as we think we are. Same as it ever was. It’s just been awhile.
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Post by nursema on Aug 16, 2022 3:54:31 GMT
Idiocy, tribalism, and pure cowardice are the rule - as well as a total lack of integrity.
How shameful and embarassing it must be for those who actually admit that they’re not only ok with that, but they’ll fight to defend it.
I can’t even fathom what “lower standards” would look like.
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Post by Merge on Aug 16, 2022 4:28:44 GMT
Dallas, y’all.
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Post by elaine on Aug 16, 2022 10:42:12 GMT
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 16, 2022 12:02:40 GMT
Even FOX. Is telling them to stop ! What changed for them? Weren’t they fueling the FBI hate just s few days ago? |
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Post by hop2 on Aug 16, 2022 15:45:47 GMT
Same ole do as I say not as I do
Or IOKIYAR
As always
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Post by Gem Girl on Aug 16, 2022 18:07:33 GMT
I don't know if you will get a response from Trump leaning Republicans. I think they are in denial and/or see those agents as the enemy, so they justify it all. I “understand,” but wasn’t the response on their part for LEO who made egregious errors (usually resulting in the deaths of POC) that “one bad apple doesn't spoil the bunch”? So, why is it different now? Because now LEOs are going after their bad apple. |
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Post by luckyjune on Aug 16, 2022 18:20:57 GMT
I will never EVER understand any of this. So much denial, so much cognitive dissonance, so many people selling their souls. For Donald.Fricken.Trump. I cannot agree more. I keep wondering what their end game is, especially in the selling-their-souls department. You know Trump will not take blame for anything and he'll throw them under the bus without even a consideration. And don't get me started on the cognitive dissonance. I think I'd add "willful" to that term. They know...they have to know they are being inconsistent. My inner middle schooler screams, "That's not fair!!!" but fairness doesn't seem to exist in the GQP. |
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Post by maryland on Aug 16, 2022 20:04:43 GMT
I never felt like the GOP backed the blue because if they did, wouldn't they want strict gun control so no one could hurt an officer.
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Post by nursema on Aug 17, 2022 6:18:52 GMT
I never felt like the GOP backed the blue because if they did, wouldn't they want strict gun control so no one could hurt an officer. Absolutely - they don’t back them at all. I also find it ridiculously laughable that they were EVER known as the party of “law and order”. Not only do they not accept that laws apply to them, they basically deny their very existence. They completely ignore them and act as if they do not apply to them in any way. What’s been maddening is that so many have gotten away with criminal acts and no attempts have been made to hold them accountable. Why are so many treated as if they are immune and untouchable? I truly believe a majority of Americans are in a chronic state of exhaustion related to this and are desperate for JUSTICE. I sure as shit am. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 17, 2022 12:13:16 GMT
I never felt like the GOP backed the blue because if they did, wouldn't they want strict gun control so no one could hurt an officer. Absolutely - they don’t back them at all. I also find it ridiculously laughable that they were EVER known as the party of “law and order”. Not only do they not accept that laws apply to them, they basically deny their very existence. They completely ignore them and act as if they do not apply to them in any way. What’s been maddening is that so many have gotten away with criminal acts and no attempts have been made to hold them accountable. Why are so many treated as if they are immune and untouchable? I truly believe a majority of Americans are in a chronic state of exhaustion related to this and are desperate for JUSTICE. I sure as shit am. Yup. It’s like playing whack-a-mole. As soon as one of their lies/conspiracies is debunked, another pops up. Look at their recent excuses for Trump having classified documents. abovethelaw.com/2022/08/the-11295-trumpworld-excuses-for-keeping-classified-documents-so-far/It is especially rich considering that Trump signed a law about mishandling classified documents As far as backing the blue, there have been howls of outrage to defund the FBI. And many of us saw the videos of his supporters abusing the Capitol Police on Jan 6th, 2021. This is the party of law and order? www.axios.com/2022/08/16/defund-fbi-trump-republicans-midtermsThey are pandering to their base, clearly. But do the rest of us, who live in the real world, want these people in charge of…anything? If you are so frightened of a poorly read, conspiracy-loving base that you shred any credibility that you might have had, then you do not belong in public office. |
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