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Post by Merge on Sept 6, 2022 4:56:15 GMT
Reasoned discussion from a cult worshipper? Please. You wouldn’t know it if it hit you over the head. You support politicians who incite violence - based on lies - against people in my profession. Why on earth should I ever be polite to you? The problem with that excuse is that you've been uncivil since before he ever went down the escalator, what was your excuse then? I have never suffered fools gladly. And I’m not starting now with people like you. The fact that you consider it an “excuse” that I take umbrage at your support of those who would see me and my colleagues arrested, unlicensed, or dead for no reason at all - that tells me everything I need to know about you. You don’t merit civility.
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 6, 2022 4:58:16 GMT
I started with reasoned, civil discussion. I'm not the one that turned the tables. The evidence is in the fact that no one else on the right bothers anymore. It's truly not me that's doing this. Good Lord, have a little "self" awareness of your own. I e said it before, but I don’t like the name calling that people are doing. It is really unnecessary and not ok. That being said, I think people (myself Included) would be more open to discussion if you came across as wanting to discuss other topics other than right wing talking points. You never say anything negative about Trump, republicans, or their actions. Yet here you are once again bringing up speculation about Hunter Biden but no comments about Trump and the actual crimes he has committed. People who do that lose credibility with those of us who look at facts. Just wanted to repeat this again and provide an example. How many posts has she made about Hunter Biden and Chuck Grassley's accusations of an FBI cover-up? How many gotcha type posts has she made? She's obsessed with Hunter Biden who never worked in the White House. But she's OK with Jared Kushner and Ivanka profiting from their father's position, working in the White House and receiving security clearances they weren't qualified for. How many posts has she condemned Trump for attempting to overturn an election, badgering a governor and secretary of state to "find 11,000 votes", inciting a riot or a coup, falsely claiming election fraud, undermining the integrity of our elections and democracy and the latest - stealing classified documents and insisting that he be reinstated as president? Exactly zero. She called Ted Cruz and ass once, I think that's the only negative post she's ever made about a Republican. And there have been countless opportunities to call out Republicans for their bullshit over the last 6 years. In comparison, most of us are willing to call out Democrats if they've done something wrong and hold them to the same standards. Almost everyone said Hunter Biden should be investigated and charged if he did something illegal.
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Post by morecowbell on Sept 6, 2022 5:14:47 GMT
The problem with that excuse is that you've been uncivil since before he ever went down the escalator, what was your excuse then? I have never suffered fools gladly. And I’m not starting now with people like you. The fact that you consider it an “excuse” that I take umbrage at your support of those who would see me and my colleagues arrested, unlicensed, or dead for no reason at all - that tells me everything I need to know about you. You don’t merit civility. No, the fact that you are NOW using Trump to excuse your uncivil behavior BEFORE he came down the escalator is why it's an obvious excuse. Fucking own it. You've always demonized other viewpoints. You delusionally think it proves your point.
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Post by Merge on Sept 6, 2022 5:47:04 GMT
I have never suffered fools gladly. And I’m not starting now with people like you. The fact that you consider it an “excuse” that I take umbrage at your support of those who would see me and my colleagues arrested, unlicensed, or dead for no reason at all - that tells me everything I need to know about you. You don’t merit civility. No, the fact that you are NOW using Trump to excuse your uncivil behavior BEFORE he came down the escalator is why it's an obvious excuse. Fucking own it. You've always demonized other viewpoints. You delusionally think it proves your point. Right. Attack me to distract from your support of those who want teachers dead. Good thing I don’t care what you think. Before Trump - you were often pretty uncivil yourself. And more often, you’ve been foolish. And as I said, suffering fools online is not something I do. After Trump - I still don’t suffer fools. And now you’re a fool who also supports fascists. You think I’m uncivil. I still don’t care what you think. Does that clear it up? Also, it’s a lie to say we don’t tolerate opposing viewpoints. The recent thread about student loan forgiveness is an example of people sharing a wide variety of viewpoints all across the spectrum. But you don’t share viewpoints. You share conspiracy theories, “gotcha” attempts, and lies. You insult this board daily by demanding we treat those as valid viewpoints. You insulted us for a long time by insisting that you were not the poster we all know you are. You insult us by pretending to want discussion while you defend a party full of white supremacist, anti-Semitic, misogynist, anti-expertise, anti-education Christo-fascists with a series of conspiracies and lies. No one who stands to be hurt by GOP policies and rhetoric owes you “civil discussion.” You insult every one of us by supporting those people and you insult us again when you pretend it’s all just another side. And then you insult us one more time by acting the aggrieved party. I have to go to sleep now so I can enjoy a full day of grooming and indoctrinating young children at school tomorrow, so whatever else you have to whine about, shove it where the sun doesn’t shine.
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Post by morecowbell on Sept 6, 2022 7:17:16 GMT
No, the fact that you are NOW using Trump to excuse your uncivil behavior BEFORE he came down the escalator is why it's an obvious excuse. Fucking own it. You've always demonized other viewpoints. You delusionally think it proves your point. Right. Attack me to distract from your support of those who want teachers dead. I don't support that at all.
A thread where many on the Left are agreeing with Republicans is hardly the example of civilly disagreeing with those on the Right.
As I said before, I've never confirmed or denied guesses. So, THAT didn't happen.
So much false rhetoric in your full statement, but these glaring inaccuracies highlight the major problems with so many of your assessments of people's motives. So, yeah. Your excuses for being uncivil don't hold water.
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 6, 2022 11:14:11 GMT
Right. Attack me to distract from your support of those who want teachers dead. I don't support that at all.
OK, then where are your posts condemning the attacks on teachers and educators?
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 6, 2022 11:35:56 GMT
A thread where many on the Left are agreeing with Republicans is hardly the example of civilly disagreeing with those on the Right.
It shows that when conservative views are posted in good faith, there can be a civil discussion. None of your posts are in good faith. They're gotcha posts, you ignore questions and anything that contradicts your narrative with actual facts. You post false premises, false comparisons, false equivalencies, whataboutisms, both sides, conspiracy theories and lies. I'm certain you'll just deny all of it but the fact that multiple people accuse you of posting in bad faith on multiple occasions should tell you something. But, I'm sure you'll just play victim again, as per usual.
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Post by Merge on Sept 6, 2022 14:21:44 GMT
Right. Attack me to distract from your support of those who want teachers dead. I don't support that at all.
A thread where many on the Left are agreeing with Republicans is hardly the example of civilly disagreeing with those on the Right.
As I said before, I've never confirmed or denied guesses. So, THAT didn't happen.
So much false rhetoric in your full statement, but these glaring inaccuracies highlight the major problems with so many of your assessments of people's motives. So, yeah. Your excuses for being uncivil don't hold water.
1. You support politicians who use rhetoric that has resulted in senseless violence against educators. These politicians and their followers continue to accuse educators - without any evidence at all - of horrible crimes against children. Where exactly do you think all this is going to lead? 2. The student loan discussion shows that competing ideas can be discussed. The electric car discussion also shows that. What can't and shouldn't be tolerated is continual shitposting of lies and conspiracy theories coupled with support for politicians who want to do substantial harm to large segments of society. The GOP itself doesn't have ideas any longer - its only platform is to own the libs, which you show nicely here with continued attempts to do just that. There are certainly people on the left and in the middle who have right-leaning ideas, but the mainstream GOP? Nope. 3. As I said earlier, I'm giving you a reason, not an excuse. I don't tolerate your posts because you support politicians who tell outrageous lies about people like me, my friends, and my loved ones, with the intent to incite violence against us. I don't care if you think my reasons "hold water" or not. I am uncivil to you because your party, which you support here, has declared open warfare on marginalized people, scientists, and academics. No self-respecting person would tolerate that kind of treatment from someone in real life, so I have no idea why you expect people to tolerate it here. 4. If you want to post actual ideas on one of the many political threads here, rather than just popping in to call everyone hypocrites or whatever, you might get some traction. But your reputation here now is such that many of us don't believe you are ever posting in good faith. You know that, of course, and it's why you keep trying to change your username for a fresh start. Oh, and you absolutely did snap back at me early in the Pixiechick days that you were "Pixie, not Gia" when I referenced you as the latter.
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Post by gar on Sept 6, 2022 14:47:36 GMT
What is the point of these new account names? I mean, it’s instantly obvious it’s the same person so 🤷🏻♀️
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Post by Merge on Sept 6, 2022 15:20:32 GMT
What is the point of these new account names? I mean, it’s instantly obvious it’s the same person so 🤷🏻♀️ a. she thinks we're all stupid, and b. she doesn't want to own her past. End of story.
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Post by morecowbell on Sept 7, 2022 2:40:05 GMT
I don't support that at all.
A thread where many on the Left are agreeing with Republicans is hardly the example of civilly disagreeing with those on the Right.
As I said before, I've never confirmed or denied guesses. So, THAT didn't happen.
So much false rhetoric in your full statement, but these glaring inaccuracies highlight the major problems with so many of your assessments of people's motives. So, yeah. Your excuses for being uncivil don't hold water.
Oh, and you absolutely did snap back at me early in the Pixiechick days that you were "Pixie, not Gia" when I referenced you as the latter. Nope. Never happened. What I said was This is why your assessments of what actually is said and people's motives absolutely suck. You see what you want to see, not the reality.
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