luckyjune
Pearl Clutcher
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Location: In the rainy, rainy WA
Jul 22, 2017 4:59:41 GMT
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Post by luckyjune on Aug 31, 2022 17:19:44 GMT
I hate to say it, but this is what we've come to and it is probably the most effective way to deal with the MAGA folks. Sadly, "a taste of your own medicine" is the only thing some people understand. Somehow, their development was stunted and until they are personally affected, they cannot have empathy for anyone in any other situation. A sad existence, really.
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Post by morecowbell on Sept 5, 2022 1:27:54 GMT
Isn't the public at a higher risk from the morons playing with guns? Who are they planning to shoot?
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Post by lucyg on Sept 5, 2022 4:17:01 GMT
Isn't the public at a higher risk from the morons playing with guns? Who are they planning to shoot? Do you think left-wing morons are more moronic that right-wing morons? I don’t.
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Post by morecowbell on Sept 5, 2022 4:25:08 GMT
Isn't the public at a higher risk from the morons playing with guns? Who are they planning to shoot? Do you think left-wing morons are more moronic that right-wing morons? I don’t. The same as, then? Those are morons playing with guns. Aren't they putting the public at risk? Who are they going to shoot? What happens to all the innocent bystanders (some of them children) when they start shooting?
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Post by lucyg on Sept 5, 2022 6:11:31 GMT
Do you think left-wing morons are more moronic that right-wing morons? I don’t. The same as, then? Those are morons playing with guns. Aren't they putting the public at risk? Who are they going to shoot? What happens to all the innocent bystanders (some of them children) when they start shooting? When was the last time you complained about fringey right-wing extremists parading around in public with their guns?
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Post by mollycoddle on Sept 5, 2022 10:01:52 GMT
Do you think left-wing morons are more moronic that right-wing morons? I don’t. The same as, then? Those are morons playing with guns. Aren't they putting the public at risk? Who are they going to shoot? What happens to all the innocent bystanders (some of them children) when they start shooting? I mean, this sudden concern over morons with guns is touching, but we have been dealing with RW morons toting guns for awhile now. Is it possible that your concern is a tad selective?
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Post by hop2 on Sept 5, 2022 12:04:14 GMT
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
The concern is so touching where was it last month.
OP’s Point proven.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 5, 2022 13:34:28 GMT
Do you think left-wing morons are more moronic that right-wing morons? I don’t. The same as, then? Those are morons playing with guns. Aren't they putting the public at risk? Who are they going to shoot? What happens to all the innocent bystanders (some of them children) when they start shooting? I think their goal is to create a presence so that others don’t mess with the people trying to go to the drag show. They aren’t “planning to shoot” anyone and at least in what is showed in the video they aren’t antagonizing people or getting into it with anyone. I with that we weren’t in a country where that was needed. I wish that people going to a drag show didn’t need to be protected or face harassment by people like the man in the video. But isn’t this the country that you advocate and vote for? Everyone carrying guns and harassment of whoever they want? There are right wing motions with guns all over the place. Do you think that all democrats will just accept that without arming themselves as well?
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dawnnikol
Prolific Pea
'A life without books is a life not lived.' Jay Kristoff
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Post by dawnnikol on Sept 5, 2022 15:10:53 GMT
I with that we weren’t in a country where that was needed. I wish that people going to a drag show didn’t need to be protected or face harassment by people like the man in the video. But isn’t this the country that you advocate and vote for? Everyone carrying guns and harassment of whoever they want? There are right wing motions with guns all over the place. Do you think that all democrats will just accept that without arming themselves as well? My immediate thought when that video starts was the man who was screaming about being "spat on", had gone up to the armed people thinking they were "his people". When he realized they weren't, he got mad and started yelling. One side has been screaming about "My 2nd Amendment" for years and last year, how many fucking Christmas cards had them with their families - including children - armed? Didn't cross their damn minds that the Libs are armed, too. And we're done with their bullshit. Will this eventually lead to something terrible? Absolutely. I don't think any of us thinks we're not heading to a lot worse in the near future.
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Post by femalebusiness on Sept 5, 2022 16:14:43 GMT
Gia, you couldn't be more pathetic if you worked at it.
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May 13, 2024 21:41:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2022 16:31:50 GMT
I don't know why these idiots have thought that only their far-right-facist side were the ones who loved or owned guns. THINK AGAIN. So many people own guns. I'm glad that the ones who have been putting us in danger for almost 2 years might now stop and think, "Hey! They might have good weapons too!" (I wish that no one had any!!).
SIDENOTE: I saw a long video of our Pasco Police (have to say that we DO have a great police force here) surrounding a shooter with an AR15 as he broke into a home at 6:15 am & he was shooting a lot. There were 2 people in the house. Our police followed leads on this guy beginning in our county by breaking in an elderly woman's home, tying her up and stole her SUV. As soon as she untied herself, she called the cops and they began the hunt that led to another county. Our police took charge and slowly stormed closer to that house, shouted and talked to the guy & he came out of the house. He was shot (by our police with AR 15's---the people that SHOULD have weapons like that if they're used safely), and died. Sorry, but he shot and injured a bunch of people and he wasn't stopping or surrendering. Idiot! I'll try to find the video--it's from the cop's cam.
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casii
Drama Llama
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Jun 29, 2014 14:40:44 GMT
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Post by casii on Sept 5, 2022 16:43:21 GMT
Had a blonde moment and posted this on the polarization thread. Haven't been blonde since I was little and my hair started darkening as I got older!
I tend to find that many Democrats also own firearms. They just don't tend to stockpile them or feel the need to carry them around like security blankets. Dems (and most Republicans) favor common sense laws regarding gun ownership as well.
I'm glad no one was hurt. Maybe a little wounded pride, but don't show up to intimidate people with your weaponry and then get butt hurt when you're met with a little armed security force yourself.
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Post by morecowbell on Sept 5, 2022 18:09:58 GMT
The same as, then? Those are morons playing with guns. Aren't they putting the public at risk? Who are they going to shoot? What happens to all the innocent bystanders (some of them children) when they start shooting? I mean, this sudden concern over morons with guns is touching, but we have been dealing with RW morons toting guns for awhile now. Is it possible that your concern is a tad selective? A tad selective? That was precisely the point. The sudden lack of concern over putting the general public at risk from morons playing with guns. It seems to be replaced by all of the high fiving amusement for these morons with guns. No one should should have a gun to be able to stop a gun massacre because it puts everyone else at risk, but we can high five in amusement over these morons with guns who are ready and able to stop the moronic protesters with deadly force? That doesn't make sense.
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Post by mollycoddle on Sept 5, 2022 18:41:16 GMT
I mean, this sudden concern over morons with guns is touching, but we have been dealing with RW morons toting guns for awhile now. Is it possible that your concern is a tad selective? A tad selective? That was precisely the point. The sudden lack of concern over putting the general public at risk from morons playing with guns. It seems to be replaced by all of the high fiving amusement for these morons with guns. No one should should have a gun to be able to stop a gun massacre because it puts everyone else at risk, but we can high five in amusement over these morons with guns who are ready and able to stop the moronic protesters with deadly force? That doesn't make sense. I don’t like guns. But MAGAs consternation at lefties toting guns is hypocritical. That is the point.
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 5, 2022 19:00:39 GMT
I mean, this sudden concern over morons with guns is touching, but we have been dealing with RW morons toting guns for awhile now. Is it possible that your concern is a tad selective? A tad selective? That was precisely the point. The sudden lack of concern over putting the general public at risk from morons playing with guns. It seems to be replaced by all of the high fiving amusement for these morons with guns. No one should should have a gun to be able to stop a gun massacre because it puts everyone else at risk, but we can high five in amusement over these morons with guns who are ready and able to stop the moronic protesters with deadly force? That doesn't make sense. You're starting with false premises again. No one is saying no one should have a gun. Gun safety advocates are saying there should be reasonable restrictions (like minimum ages, universal background checks, red flags etc) and gun owners should be responsible for storing guns safely. Also, guns are not the solution to mass shootings, that has been proven over and over again, most recently in Uvalde. And teachers should not be armed, that's just common sense. But, if 2nd Amendment gun nuts thinks it's OK to have armed protest at statehouses, to bring guns to peaceful marches etc, why is it a problem when Democrats do the same thing? Only conserves are allowed to protest with guns?
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Post by morecowbell on Sept 5, 2022 19:05:58 GMT
A tad selective? That was precisely the point. The sudden lack of concern over putting the general public at risk from morons playing with guns. It seems to be replaced by all of the high fiving amusement for these morons with guns. No one should should have a gun to be able to stop a gun massacre because it puts everyone else at risk, but we can high five in amusement over these morons with guns who are ready and able to stop the moronic protesters with deadly force? That doesn't make sense. I don’t like guns. But MAGAs consternation at lefties toting guns is hypocritical. That is the point. Okay one guy is hypocritical. But what about the usual concern over morons playing with guns hurting innocent bystanders? Where is that? Isn't that concern a tad selective?
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 5, 2022 19:07:11 GMT
I don’t like guns. But MAGAs consternation at lefties toting guns is hypocritical. That is the point. Okay one guy is hypocritical. But what about the usual concern over morons playing with guns hurting innocent bystanders? Where is that? Isn't that concern a tad selective? As usual, I think you're blowing this out of proportion. This is one occurrence, not a trend.
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Post by morecowbell on Sept 5, 2022 19:45:11 GMT
Okay one guy is hypocritical. But what about the usual concern over morons playing with guns hurting innocent bystanders? Where is that? Isn't that concern a tad selective? As usual, I think you're blowing this out of proportion. This is one occurrence, not a trend. Morons playing with guns is either dangerous no matter who they're protecting or it's not dangerous at all. You can't have it both ways.
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 5, 2022 19:51:40 GMT
As usual, I think you're blowing this out of proportion. This is one occurrence, not a trend. Morons playing with guns is either dangerous no matter who they're protecting or it's not dangerous at all. You can't have it both ways. That's the entire point. 2nd Amendment gun nuts can't have it both ways. If it's OK for them to be armed at state houses, marches etc, it's OK for left wing protestors to have them, too. It's similar to Trump calling Democrats, world leaders etc every name in the book including communist and fascist. Republicans were OK with that and remained silent. But when Biden accurately uses the word "semi-fascism", conservatives lose their minds. They can dish it out but can't take the heat.
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Post by morecowbell on Sept 5, 2022 20:24:48 GMT
Morons playing with guns is either dangerous no matter who they're protecting or it's not dangerous at all. You can't have it both ways. That's the entire point. 2nd Amendment gun nuts can't have it both ways. If it's OK for them to be armed at state houses, marches etc, it's OK for left wing protestors to have them, too. Yes, I know that's the point. It doesn't dismiss the counterpoint, being the sudden lack of concern for innocent bystanders. One guy in a video that may or may not be against all guns vs. of an entire group of women suddenly lacking the usual concern for innocent bystanders. Your false equivalence this time.
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Post by mollycoddle on Sept 5, 2022 20:31:52 GMT
I don’t like guns. But MAGAs consternation at lefties toting guns is hypocritical. That is the point. Okay one guy is hypocritical. But what about the usual concern over morons playing with guns hurting innocent bystanders? Where is that? Isn't that concern a tad selective? AJ said it better than I could.
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Post by morecowbell on Sept 5, 2022 20:35:57 GMT
Okay one guy is hypocritical. But what about the usual concern over morons playing with guns hurting innocent bystanders? Where is that? Isn't that concern a tad selective? AJ said it better than I could. And yet, what she said didn't dismiss the alternate point of the sudden lack of concern for innocent bystanders.
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dawnnikol
Prolific Pea
'A life without books is a life not lived.' Jay Kristoff
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Post by dawnnikol on Sept 5, 2022 21:04:31 GMT
AJ said it better than I could. And yet, what she said didn't dismiss the alternate point of the sudden lack of concern for innocent bystanders. Honestly, I’ll show more concern for people there to PROTECT people who are being targeted when it is more than ONE SIDE who keeps being the side that keeps causing all the mass shootings in the US. You know what we would expect to happen to anyone who shot someone else, accidentally or not, in this case? The same thing regardless of what “side” they were on. It would be a tragedy all the way around. But that’s not the case for one side, is it?
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 5, 2022 21:15:52 GMT
That's the entire point. 2nd Amendment gun nuts can't have it both ways. If it's OK for them to be armed at state houses, marches etc, it's OK for left wing protestors to have them, too. Yes, I know that's the point. It doesn't dismiss the counterpoint, being the sudden lack of concern for innocent bystanders. One guy in a video that may or may not be against all guns vs. of an entire group of women suddenly lacking the usual concern for innocent bystanders. Your false equivalence this time. Show me where anyone here expressed concern for innocent bystanders and is lacking it now. Generally, the concern is not about innocent bystanders being shot, it's more about intimidation at marches, polling places etc. Or open carry without permits or background checks. If the left wing protestors have permits and background checks, then they have every right to be there. On the other hand, I can point at countless of examples of 2nd Amendment gun nuts exercising and demanding their rights. And now they're up in arms because left wing protestors used the same tactics once? Hypocrisy at it's finest.
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Post by morecowbell on Sept 5, 2022 21:22:39 GMT
Yes, I know that's the point. It doesn't dismiss the counterpoint, being the sudden lack of concern for innocent bystanders. One guy in a video that may or may not be against all guns vs. of an entire group of women suddenly lacking the usual concern for innocent bystanders. Your false equivalence this time. Show me where anyone here expressed concern for innocent bystanders.Generally, the concern is not about innocent bystanders being shot, it's more about intimidation at marches, polling places etc. That's the point, the usual concern for innocent bystanders is missing. Yes it is. Whenever anyone states the idea that a good guy with a gun stops a bad guy with a gun, that's met with "crossfire" and "innocent bystanders".
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 5, 2022 21:26:23 GMT
Show me where anyone here expressed concern for innocent bystanders.Generally, the concern is not about innocent bystanders being shot, it's more about intimidation at marches, polling places etc. That's the point, the usual concern for innocent bystanders is missing. Yes it is. Whenever anyone states the idea that a good guy with a gun stops a bad guy with a gun, that's met with "crossfire" and "innocent bystanders". No, this isn't about stopping bad guys with a gun. That's something entirely different. And again show me the hypocrisy. Where did anyone here show concern for innocent bystanders when right wing protestors were armed? On an unrelated note - the right has completely lost any claim to the party of law and order. The jerk in the red shirt was in the police officer's face yelling and screaming at her. He's lucky he's white.
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Post by Merge on Sept 5, 2022 21:42:21 GMT
The people actually concerned for innocent bystanders - regardless of who is holding the gun - are the ones who campaign against open carry/permitless carry and for universal background checks and red flag laws.
No one here actually cheers these guys waving guns around in public. We do appreciate the irony of the right wing reaction to it in this case.
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Post by morecowbell on Sept 5, 2022 21:44:41 GMT
That's the point, the usual concern for innocent bystanders is missing. Yes it is. Whenever anyone states the idea that a good guy with a gun stops a bad guy with a gun, that's met with "crossfire" and "innocent bystanders". No, this isn't about stopping bad guys with a gun. That's something entirely different. And again show me the hypocrisy. Where did anyone here show concern for innocent bystanders when right wing protestors were armed? On an unrelated note - the right has completely lost any claim to the party of law and order. The jerk in the red shirt was in the police officer's face yelling and screaming at her. He's lucky he's white. The hypocrisy is that when "you" don't agree with the cause for having a gun it's concern for innocent bystanders. Now "you" agree with the cause and it's humorous that they're carrying guns. I can't make the hypocrisy any more obvious.
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 5, 2022 21:59:14 GMT
No, this isn't about stopping bad guys with a gun. That's something entirely different. And again show me the hypocrisy. Where did anyone here show concern for innocent bystanders when right wing protestors were armed? On an unrelated note - the right has completely lost any claim to the party of law and order. The jerk in the red shirt was in the police officer's face yelling and screaming at her. He's lucky he's white. The hypocrisy is that when "you" don't agree with the cause for having a gun it's concern for innocent bystanders. Now "you" agree with the cause and it's humorous that they're carrying guns. I can't make the hypocrisy any more obvious. No, show me the hypocrisy. Where did I disagree with the cause for having a gun? Where did I express concern for innocent bystanders? Or where did anyone else posting in this thread? It's not obvious and it's not hypocrisy if you can't actually show it.
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Post by morecowbell on Sept 5, 2022 22:09:37 GMT
The hypocrisy is that when "you" don't agree with the cause for having a gun it's concern for innocent bystanders. Now "you" agree with the cause and it's humorous that they're carrying guns. I can't make the hypocrisy any more obvious. No, show me the hypocrisy. Where did I disagree with the cause for having a gun? Where did I express concern for innocent bystanders? Or where did anyone else posting in this thread? It's not obvious and it's not hypocrisy if you can't actually show it. Earliest one in the search
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