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Post by crimsoncat05 on Sept 12, 2022 16:17:25 GMT
reference this thread to see the backstory- one of our dogs has developed anxiety and we were looking to use an animal communicator. our session with her was Saturday morning, and it went really good. I think. lol. Holly, the communicator, called on the phone, we talked about what would happen, and then she 'talked' to each of the dogs in turn, first to introduce herself and then to ask questions to Kokopelli and to the others regarding his (recent) anxiety about being put in his crate at night. She spoke (communicated telepathically) to Prescott first, since he's oldest, out of respect-- he is mostly deaf now, and was lying down across the room, relaxing. When she connected with him, his ears perked up, he lifted his head up, and stared straight at me, but I hadn't said or gestured to him at ALL. It was weird! She told him she was going to try to help Kokopelli- she said he told her 'he's annoying' lol. (that's very true- Kokopelli does annoy Prescott sometimes.) She connected to Kokopelli next- he acted anxious and whined, and she said "he's nervous" but once she explained to him who she was and how she wanted to help him communicate with us, he calmed down. He sat stock-still, staring into space, with his ears up like he was listening, but we were NOT talking to him. She was, telepathically. She laughed, and said "the first thing he told me is, I'm fast!" which is true. He gets zoomies a lot, and he IS very fast. She talked with him a while, then she talked with Kachina, who was just chilling-- apparently Kachina had already been 'listening in' on the conversation with Kokopelli, so already understood what was going on. About Kachina, Holly said "she's really smart..." and that Kachina understands Kokopelli is needier ' he's always been that way' and that she takes care of him and tells him what to do sometimes, which he doesn't always like. lol. Kokopelli told her he has a gurgly tummy sometimes (he does have some digestive issues- after all, he eats napkins, etc sometimes) and he is anxious at night because there is a male spirit (human, not animal) in their bedroom and he didn't want to be trapped in his crate with it in the room. Holly talked to him more about it, then asked him 'do you think it will hurt you?' and he answered, 'well, I never really thought about it... I *guess* not' (lol). But he didn't want to be locked in his crate at night because of the spirit. She asked Kachina about the spirit; her answer was that she knew it was there but it didn't bother her- it didn't communicate with them, so she didn't try to communicate with it. She asked Kachina about Prescott and the spirit, but Kachina's answer is 'well, he can't see it, anyway, so he's not bothered by it' (lol). Holly did give us some recommendations for calming supplements, chakra music to play in their room at night, and some changes in their routine that could help. I had bought sage before we moved, but never used it to smudge the house... I remembered that during the phone call, so she explained to the dogs what we were going to do-- she said Kokopelli asked, 'Are we going to do it right now? Can I go along to help?' haha. He is impatient, lol. We did smudge the house with sage yesterday, and yes, all 3 dogs did go along with us, through the entire house. I am actually going to contact the previous property owners and ask them if they know anything about someone who was connected to the house or the property in any way who might have been ill, been in an accident, etc. to find out if there is any evidence of something that could be connected to the 'spirit' Kokopelli senses. I'm also going to check out the supplements and other things she suggested, and hopefully we can eventually wean him off the anti-anxiety meds. Am I a believer in it? I'm not 100% sure yet, but she did give us some insights into things we can do to help alleviate Kokopelli's anxiety. And I *do* believe the dogs were very clearly 'listening / hearing' something at certain times during the call, and it was NOT us. And I definitely think I would do it again. (maybe to talk with the cats- they'd probably say we don't give them *nearly* enough treats, lol.)
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Post by peabay on Sept 12, 2022 16:23:13 GMT
I'm sure you're going to get giggles and eye rolls, but I found that fascinating. Please keep us posted on what you learn and if any of the suggested actions help the dogs!
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Post by dizzycheermom on Sept 12, 2022 16:57:29 GMT
Wow! very interesting! I wonder if she can help house train my youngest doxie! Do you mind telling us how much it cost?
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Sept 12, 2022 17:04:00 GMT
Do you mind telling us how much it cost? I would tell you... If I remembered. lol. I want to say it was somewhere between $60-$90 for a 45 min - 1 hour session... I forgot to ask her for sure, but I need to send her a check, so I emailed her to find out. She didn't rush at ALL, and she actually went over the time limit a bit just in talking with us at the end. If you want to get more info about her, message me and I can send you her website. eta: I found out about her from my sister; her Scottie dog has had a lot of anxiety issues and Holly has helped him / them a LOT.
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Post by Zee on Sept 12, 2022 17:12:54 GMT
Wow! very interesting! I wonder if she can help house train my youngest doxie! Do you mind telling us how much it cost? I will definitely cut you a deal and talk to your dog telepathically over the phone. What a wonderful gig
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Post by dizzycheermom on Sept 12, 2022 17:23:02 GMT
Wow! very interesting! I wonder if she can help house train my youngest doxie! Do you mind telling us how much it cost? I will definitely cut you a deal and talk to your dog telepathically over the phone. What a wonderful gig
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Post by tracylynn on Sept 12, 2022 18:08:33 GMT
I found that fascinating as well.
Thank you for sharing! I hope you'll be able to calm his anxiety.
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Post by paulao on Sept 12, 2022 18:26:29 GMT
Years ago, I had my horse have a session with an animal communicator. Lots of stuff was spot on. She told me that his weak spot was his right hind hamstring, and darned if several years later I had to retire him because of problems with his right hind hamstring. After he transitioned my horse and I had conversations and I know he has talked to my current horse.
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 12, 2022 18:35:37 GMT
I'm not sure how I feel about the legitimacy of it all, but in the end, if you get what you need, it does doesn't matter what others think. I do think animals know and see a lot more than we do as humans. I think there are a lot of dog and pony show people out there, so when someone comes along and actually helps people are skeptical. I have seen a fair amount of mediums on tv that can plant people and then one comes along and you think there is someone who can do it. The kid who was the medium to the stars... Tyler someone... his show was the most credible to me.
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Post by peace on Sept 12, 2022 18:48:39 GMT
I have realized one thing at my age- I don't know shit. Anything is possible and if it helps, I'm all for it.
I hope the behavior improves for the doggies and it makes a difference for you!!
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Post by Lexica on Sept 12, 2022 18:49:07 GMT
I want to say that I'm open to this being genuine, but I have to admit that as much as I want to believe it 100%, I just can't. And oddly, I think I am more open to people psychics than animal psychics, although I have absolutely no rational reason for that belief.
My skeptical mind said she could have been using some sort of device that is beyond the pitch that a human can hear in order to make the dogs perk up and turn toward you and the phone to appear as if they were paying attention to her talking to them telepathically. I mean, if they were hearing her in their minds, they wouldn't have to look toward you at all, would they?
As for the supplements and other ideas she provided, hopefully, those may very well work for your dog and could have been recommended without the telepathy part.
Again, I really want to believe that there are people that can do this. How amazing would that be?
ETA: I just now remembered hearing about a little toddler in their crib laughing and reaching out toward an empty room. The dog was in the room as well and was also looking at the same spot the child was. A few months later, the mom had the toddler on her lap and they were looking at a photo album. As the mom turned a page, the child pointed to a photo and correctly identified the person in the picture. The mom was surprised and asked how the child knew who that person was because she had not shown the child any photos of this person and there were no photos displayed in the house that the child could have seen. The child said that this person comes to play with them at night and read them stories. The person in the photo was the grandmother who had died before the child was born. True or not, it made me feel very comforted.
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Post by scrapmaven on Sept 12, 2022 18:56:22 GMT
I completely believe that this will help your doggies. Plus, maybe you can give the spirit permission to move on. Yup, Peas. I'm a believer. Thank you for your update. Please continue to let us know what happens. Were I you, I'd throw in some doggie acupuncture, just for kicks and giggles. Animals love acu.
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Post by scrapngranny on Sept 12, 2022 18:58:52 GMT
I would love to see how my dog would react, just for the fun of it. Do i believe? I would have to see how my dog reacted. I do find it interesting.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Sept 12, 2022 20:27:40 GMT
My skeptical mind said she could have been using some sort of device that is beyond the pitch that a human can hear in order to make the dogs perk up and turn toward you and the phone to appear as if they were paying attention to her talking to them telepathically. I mean, if they were hearing her in their minds, they wouldn't have to look toward you at all, would they?they didn't! well, okay, Prescott did, but Kokopelli wasn't looking at us during the communication. He was just sitting 'at attention' kind of staring at the couch next to me. not at ME, or at my DH. Kachina didn't, either. But you could tell they were paying attention to SOMEthing. Like I said, I'm not sure yet myself-- but even if just the calming music, changes in their routine, etc. work, it will still be an improvement for us. The child said that this person comes to play with them at night and read them stories. The person in the photo was the grandmother who had died before the child was born. True or not, it made me feel very comforted. my sister's dog Archie saw my Grandma and a man (it was either my Grandpa or my dad) in the room with my mom in the nights just before she died. I totally believe that-- when she was awake, Mom said they were there, too.
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Post by birukitty on Sept 12, 2022 22:11:26 GMT
Thanks for the update and I for one am a believer. I lived in a haunted house when I was a teen and although I never experienced anything 4 out of 6 members of my family did and so did the person who bought that house when we sold it. Because of this I believe in ghosts. Do I believe in animal communicators? I'm keeping an open mind.
I wish the best for your pets Crimsoncat05 and hope this helps them.
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Post by refugeepea on Sept 12, 2022 22:54:54 GMT
I find it fascinating and if the dog gets better, why not?
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Post by GiantsFan on Sept 12, 2022 23:41:58 GMT
Thanks for the update. I hope the things she suggested work. Please keep us posted.
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Post by disneypal on Sept 13, 2022 10:17:58 GMT
Very interesting…hopefully the session & sageing helps Kokopelli. I enjoyed reading about your experience with this.
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Post by Gennifer on Sept 13, 2022 14:04:45 GMT
My skeptical mind said she could have been using some sort of device that is beyond the pitch that a human can hear in order to make the dogs perk up and turn toward you and the phone to appear as if they were paying attention to her talking to them telepathically. I mean, if they were hearing her in their minds, they wouldn't have to look toward you at all, would they? Exactly my thought.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Sept 13, 2022 14:22:42 GMT
reference this thread to see the backstory- one of our dogs has developed anxiety and we were looking to use an animal communicator. our session with her was Saturday morning, and it went really good. I think. lol. Holly, the communicator, called on the phone, we talked about what would happen, and then she 'talked' to each of the dogs in turn, first to introduce herself and then to ask questions to Kokopelli and to the others regarding his (recent) anxiety about being put in his crate at night. She spoke (communicated telepathically) to Prescott first, since he's oldest, out of respect-- he is mostly deaf now, and was lying down across the room, relaxing. When she connected with him, his ears perked up, he lifted his head up, and stared straight at me, but I hadn't said or gestured to him at ALL. It was weird! She told him she was going to try to help Kokopelli- she said he told her 'he's annoying' lol. (that's very true- Kokopelli does annoy Prescott sometimes.) She connected to Kokopelli next- he acted anxious and whined, and she said "he's nervous" but once she explained to him who she was and how she wanted to help him communicate with us, he calmed down. He sat stock-still, staring into space, with his ears up like he was listening, but we were NOT talking to him. She was, telepathically. She laughed, and said "the first thing he told me is, I'm fast" which is true. He gets zoomies a lot, and he IS very fast. She talked with him a while, then she talked with Kachina, who was just chilling-- apparently Kachina had already been 'listening in' on the conversation with Kokopelli, so already understood what was going on. About Kachina, Holly said "she's really smart..." and that Kachina understands Kokopelli is needier ' he's always been that way' and that she takes care of him and tells him what to do sometimes, which he doesn't always like. lol. Kokopelli told her he has a gurgly tummy sometimes (he does have some digestive issues- after all, he eats napkins, etc sometimes) and he is anxious at night because there is a male spirit (human, not animal) in their bedroom and he didn't want to be trapped in his crate with it in the room. Holly talked to him more about it, then asked him 'do you think it will hurt you?' and he answered, 'well, I never really thought about it... I *guess* not' (lol). But he didn't want to be locked in his crate at night because of the spirit. She asked Kachina about the spirit; her answer was that she knew it was there but it didn't bother her- it didn't communicate with them, so she didn't try to communicate with it. She asked Kachina about Prescott and the spirit, but Kachina's answer is 'well, he can't see it, anyway, so he's not bothered by it' (lol).Holly did give us some recommendations for calming supplements, chakra music to play in their room at night, and some changes in their routine that could help. I had bought sage before we moved, but never used it to smudge the house... I remembered that during the phone call, so she explained to the dogs what we were going to do-- she said Kokopelli asked, 'Are we going to do it right now? Can I go along to help?' haha. He is impatient, lol. We did smudge the house with sage yesterday, and yes, all 3 dogs did go along with us, through the entire house. I am actually going to contact the previous property owners and ask them if they know anything about someone who was connected to the house or the property in any way who might have been ill, been in an accident, etc. to find out if there is any evidence of something that could be connected to the 'spirit' Kokopelli senses. I'm also going to check out the supplements and other things she suggested, and hopefully we can eventually wean him off the anti-anxiety meds. Am I a believer in it? I'm not 100% sure yet, but she did give us some insights into things we can do to help alleviate Kokopelli's anxiety. And I *do* believe the dogs were very clearly 'listening / hearing' something at certain times during the call, and it was NOT us. And I definitely think I would do it again. (maybe to talk with the cats- they'd probably say we don't give them *nearly* enough treats, lol.) Seriously, this scared the shit out of me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have goosebumps thinking about it! Def contact the previous owners and let us know what they say!!!!!
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 13, 2022 19:09:37 GMT
My skeptical mind said she could have been using some sort of device that is beyond the pitch that a human can hear in order to make the dogs perk up and turn toward you and the phone to appear as if they were paying attention to her talking to them telepathically. I mean, if they were hearing her in their minds, they wouldn't have to look toward you at all, would they? Exactly my thought. Wouldn't it effect the dogs all at the same time? I know when a candy wrapper is very quietly opened here everyone hears it at the same time. Just a thought.
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Post by Skellinton on Sept 13, 2022 19:38:02 GMT
Wouldn't it effect the dogs all at the same time? I know when a candy wrapper is very quietly opened here everyone hears it at the same time. Just a thought. When I had one that communicated with my cats we were all in the same room (cats and I) and I never moved from my spot. Boo, our cat with one deaf ear, never moved his deaf ear until it was the communication ladies time to talk to him. After she talked to Kit she said she was going to talk to Boo, who happened to be eating at the time, all of the sudden he froze and his deaf ear started pivoting like crazy. Never saw that ear pivot before or since. His good ear pivots all the time as we talk to him, but never his deaf ear.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Sept 13, 2022 21:18:18 GMT
Wouldn't it effect the dogs all at the same time? I know when a candy wrapper is very quietly opened here everyone hears it at the same time. Just a thought. good point... not much of *anything* happens in our house without at least the 2 puppies reacting to it at the exact same time. And not much gets Prescott's attention at all any more, since his hearing and eyesight are both bad-- you can be pretty much right on top of him before he even realizes you're there. So for him to lift his head to 'listen' to ANYthing is odd, frankly-- and even more odd that the puppies did NOT react at that time, if it was some sound on the phone-- the phone was a lot closer to the puppies than it was to Prescott. I don't expect everyone to believe it; I'm not sure I believe all of it myself. But I saw / heard enough out of the ordinary things during that phone call to make me more than halfway convinced, and I would definitely do another session if needed, or just for more info. eta: Kachina was just chilling on the floor, and because she had already 'overheard' some of the convo with Kokopelli, she didn't adopt a 'listening' attitude at all, or even lift her head. But she DID do some odd 'nose twitch' type things during that time that I have NEVER EVER seen her do before. My sister has done it enough now that she can tell when her dog is being 'talked' to, also.
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on Sept 13, 2022 21:39:04 GMT
I love this. I'm a firm believer in Shakespeare's quote in Hamlet "there are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy". Yes it's just a play. Yes I'm a Christian. But we have Sophie the ghost dog in our house, and animals are far more sensitive than humans.
It will be very interesting to see how their behaviours change. Keep us updated, please?
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