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Post by aj2hall on Oct 12, 2022 0:46:05 GMT
A nightmare scenario. Trump hell bent on revenge, installing loyalists everywhere. And unchecked because he wouldn't have to face voters again. The article is long but well worth reading. Gift article - no paywall wapo.st/3CsSciEPhase 1: Trump seizes control of the government … … And installs super loyalists.
Loyalists would lead other departments as well. While in office, Trump futilely tweeted at the Federal Reserve, seeking a monetary policy that would benefit him politically, and compared Chairman Jerome Powell to an “enemy” like China’s Xi Jinping. Powell’s term is up in 2026. If Trump could get a loyalist through the Senate, interest rates could be manipulated to juice the economy ahead of elections, says Stanford political scientist Francis Fukuyama, author of “The End of History and the Last Man” and, most recently, “Liberalism and Its Discontents.” Meanwhile, a politicized Bureau of Labor Statistics could lead to monthly jobs reports suddenly becoming suspect. Or how about the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention? Says Fukuyama: “Do you want people who believe in hydroxychloroquine making these decisions?”
Phase 2: Trump deploys the military aggressively at home, while retreating abroad.
Phase 3: Political violence and democratic collapse? It’s possible.
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Post by Skellinton on Oct 12, 2022 0:50:57 GMT
I can’t even bear to imagine. I don’t think anyone can accurately predict how bad it would be.
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samantha25
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Post by samantha25 on Oct 12, 2022 1:19:54 GMT
Maybe he won't even declare he's running. He hasn't officially done it. Maybe he will "forget".
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casii
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Post by casii on Oct 12, 2022 1:19:55 GMT
Well there went my appetite.
But since he believes his own Big Lie, he'd technically be running for a 3rd term which is impossible. Someone tell him that and maybe he'll concede the 2020 election.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 12, 2022 2:36:14 GMT
They already have Schedule F, in hand, to lay off/fire 50,000 Federal civil servants. Bet he will deny them unemployment too!
*** Although, why wait.. McCarthy and friends in Congress are planning on shutting down the government if they take the house and Senate unless Biden cancels most of the last stuff they just passed, student loans etc as well as immediate cuts to Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security...
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Post by Scrapper100 on Oct 12, 2022 4:18:29 GMT
They already have Schedule F, in hand, to lay off/fire 50,000 Federal civil servants. Bet he will deny them unemployment too! *** Although, why wait.. McCarthy and friends in Congress are planning on shutting down the government if they take the house and Senate unless Biden cancels most of the last stuff they just passed, student loans etc as well as immediate cuts to Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security... Gotta love that make him look like the bad guy. 🤦♀️ They take credit for it when it suits them even if they vote against it and now they are going to try snd force his hand to cancel them. But can they do that if they were things that were voted on snd approved? Cuts to Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security will really hurt so many people. I’m hoping that it doesn’t come to this.
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Post by nursema on Oct 12, 2022 5:22:07 GMT
What is so totally mind-boggling to me is the fact that if he does win, we are ALL screwed, but somehow only about half of us know it.
I can’t even imagine what a rude awakening half of the country would be in for - the half who still choose to believe, despite all he says and does to the contrary, that he gives one iota of a shit about them and their well-being. He has never cared about them and never will, he lacks the capacity to feel compassion or concern for any living being other than himself. He doesn’t even care about his own children beyond their being an extension of himself and soldiers fighting in the Trump army.
They have been duped, used, exploited and taken to the cleaners, and there will be no payoff for them in the end. There are no benefits to be reaped. A Republican-controlled nation would be a loss for every soul in this country, as well as for those abroad. Their true intentions have zero to do with what their lips are saying. Their motives are dark and involve nothing other than their goals of obtaining more power and an even bigger chunk of the world’s wealth. They do not intend to share either of the two.
I’m astounded every day by just how many well-meaning, intelligent people have been sucked in by this mind-fuck when it is so clear to those on the outside of the operation what is really going on. I don’t care how many times these charlatans cite “Two Corinthians” or toss out hot button issues intended to rile those who believe they are fighting to carry out the will of God, it’s baffling to watch so many throw out what they refer to as their God-given gift of discernment in order to stay within the pack and support the chosen mascot as they’re led astray by false prophets. Most of the ones in my orbit are too far gone.
It is maddening, it is terrifying, and it is exhausting.
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Post by mollycoddle on Oct 12, 2022 9:27:44 GMT
What is so totally mind-boggling to me is the fact that if he does win, we are ALL screwed, but somehow only about half of us know it. I can’t even imagine what a rude awakening half of the country would be in for - the half who still choose to believe, despite all he says and does to the contrary, that he gives one iota of a shit about them and their well-being. He has never cared about them and never will, he lacks the capacity to feel compassion or concern for any living being other than himself. He doesn’t even care about his own children beyond their being an extension of himself and soldiers fighting in the Trump army. They have been duped, used, exploited and taken to the cleaners, and there will be no payoff for them in the end. There are no benefits to be reaped. A Republican-controlled nation would be a loss for every soul in this country, as well as for those abroad. Their true intentions have zero to do with what their lips are saying. Their motives are dark and involve nothing other than their goals of obtaining more power and an even bigger chunk of the world’s wealth. They do not intend to share either of the two. I’m astounded every day by just how many well-meaning, intelligent people have been sucked in by this mind-fuck when it is so clear to those on the outside of the operation what is really going on. I don’t care how many times these charlatans cite “Two Corinthians” or toss out hot button issues intended to rile those who believe they are fighting to carry out the will of God, it’s baffling to watch so many throw out what they refer to as their God-given gift of discernment in order to stay within the pack and support the chosen mascot as they’re led astray by false prophets. Most of the ones in my orbit are too far gone. It is maddening, it is terrifying, and it is exhausting. This sums it up perfectly. I, too, struggle with the fact that so many smart people are willing to overlook 2 huge red flags: 1) The man tried to steal an election. He is still lying through his teeth about it. 2) He stole classified documents, didn’t give them back when asked, or when served with a subpoena. And now he has the gall to try to say that they are his. They are NOT his. If any of us stole classified documents, we would go to prison. I don’t get it, never have, never will. ETA: It makes me sad to say this, but I do not believe that the Trump/anti-Trump breach can be healed.
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Post by J u l e e on Oct 12, 2022 11:20:53 GMT
What is so totally mind-boggling to me is the fact that if he does win, we are ALL screwed, but somehow only about half of us know it. I can’t even imagine what a rude awakening half of the country would be in for - the half who still choose to believe, despite all he says and does to the contrary, that he gives one iota of a shit about them and their well-being. He has never cared about them and never will, he lacks the capacity to feel compassion or concern for any living being other than himself. He doesn’t even care about his own children beyond their being an extension of himself and soldiers fighting in the Trump army. They have been duped, used, exploited and taken to the cleaners, and there will be no payoff for them in the end. There are no benefits to be reaped. A Republican-controlled nation would be a loss for every soul in this country, as well as for those abroad. Their true intentions have zero to do with what their lips are saying. Their motives are dark and involve nothing other than their goals of obtaining more power and an even bigger chunk of the world’s wealth. They do not intend to share either of the two. I’m astounded every day by just how many well-meaning, intelligent people have been sucked in by this mind-fuck when it is so clear to those on the outside of the operation what is really going on. I don’t care how many times these charlatans cite “Two Corinthians” or toss out hot button issues intended to rile those who believe they are fighting to carry out the will of God, it’s baffling to watch so many throw out what they refer to as their God-given gift of discernment in order to stay within the pack and support the chosen mascot as they’re led astray by false prophets. Most of the ones in my orbit are too far gone. It is maddening, it is terrifying, and it is exhausting. This is so excellently written, I read it twice!
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Post by Scrapper100 on Oct 12, 2022 19:01:33 GMT
What is so totally mind-boggling to me is the fact that if he does win, we are ALL screwed, but somehow only about half of us know it. I can’t even imagine what a rude awakening half of the country would be in for - the half who still choose to believe, despite all he says and does to the contrary, that he gives one iota of a shit about them and their well-being. He has never cared about them and never will, he lacks the capacity to feel compassion or concern for any living being other than himself. He doesn’t even care about his own children beyond their being an extension of himself and soldiers fighting in the Trump army. They have been duped, used, exploited and taken to the cleaners, and there will be no payoff for them in the end. There are no benefits to be reaped. A Republican-controlled nation would be a loss for every soul in this country, as well as for those abroad. Their true intentions have zero to do with what their lips are saying. Their motives are dark and involve nothing other than their goals of obtaining more power and an even bigger chunk of the world’s wealth. They do not intend to share either of the two. I’m astounded every day by just how many well-meaning, intelligent people have been sucked in by this mind-fuck when it is so clear to those on the outside of the operation what is really going on. I don’t care how many times these charlatans cite “Two Corinthians” or toss out hot button issues intended to rile those who believe they are fighting to carry out the will of God, it’s baffling to watch so many throw out what they refer to as their God-given gift of discernment in order to stay within the pack and support the chosen mascot as they’re led astray by false prophets. Most of the ones in my orbit are too far gone. It is maddening, it is terrifying, and it is exhausting. This sums it up perfectly. I, too, struggle with the fact that so many smart people are willing to overlook 2 huge red flags: 1) The man tried to steal an election. He is still lying through his teeth about it. 2) He stole classified documents, didn’t give them back when asked, or when served with a subpoena. And now he has the gall to try to say that they are his. They are NOT his. If any of us stole classified documents, we would go to prison. I don’t get it, never have, never will. ETA: It makes me sad to say this, but I do not believe that the Trump/anti-Trump breach can be healed. Me to. I know some people I always considered smart that have fallen for all his lies. Even when proven to be lies they think he is in the right snd cares about them. I keep hoping they will wake up but I have pretty much given up at this point.
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