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Post by stampinfraulein on Jan 4, 2023 16:28:29 GMT
Need a mindset shift: how do I stop viewing healthy eating and exercising as a punishment for being fat?
Just talked to my Dr and I am a smidge over the line into pre-diabetic. I am prob 25+ lbs overweight. I know what to do. I know how to count macros, how to buy/make/eat healthy foods, how to exercise. I know how to do all of those things. I just hate doing them. They feel like punishment. I really need a mindset shift. How do I view those things as a privilege, and not punishment or drudgery or torture?
(And before you tell me to find a form of exercise that I like, I really don’t like any kind of exercise. I get extremely sweaty and hot and I turn purple in the face and I generally feel sore and tired and worse afterwards. I genuinely don’t think I will ever love exercise. I’m not sure I could ever even get to the point of liking exercise. At best I’m hoping to tolerate it. I was the kid who would sit at recess reading a book because I didn’t want to run around and get sweaty and hot.
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Post by allison1954 on Jan 4, 2023 16:32:48 GMT
Can you start with walking?
A gentle 15 minutes
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jan 4, 2023 16:35:22 GMT
I wish I knew. About the only exercise I actually like is roller skating and the rink closest to me closed during Covid and never reopened.😕
What about swimming? At least with that you wouldn’t feel hot and sweaty.
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Post by katlady on Jan 4, 2023 16:38:21 GMT
How about telling yourself that this is good for you. That you are doing this so that you can do more things, that you’ll have a healthier body, that you won’t have to take medications, etc.
Good luck! I don’t like getting sweaty either, but I feel so good after exercising. Start slow. It is normal to feel a little sore after a workout. Not terrible pains, but just a little sore. Can you find a workout buddy?
There is this lady on my street. During the pandemic, I would see her out walking twice a day. Now, 2-3 years later, she has lost so much weight. I don’t know what she does at home, but I am sure those daily walks helped. Start easy!!
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Post by ~summer~ on Jan 4, 2023 16:43:13 GMT
I think you need to think of it as “just something you do”. Like brushing your teeth or making your bed. I don’t enjoy cleaning but I don’t let my house get filthy. Exercise is just something I do - every day. It feels odd to me to go to bed at night if I didn’t exercise all day. Similar to brushing my teeth or washing my face.
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Post by bethany102399 on Jan 4, 2023 16:46:26 GMT
For me, it became about walking the dog. When we went into lockdown we needed to get out of the house and the dog was awful on the leash. He's 100+lbs and pretty much goes where he wants to go. I instituted walking him as a way to both get out of the house and improve his leash skills. Nothing to do with exercise, it's walking the dog.
Same thing for water aerobics. I need a knee replacement and part of strengthening my knees to avoid it is very low intensity exercise. When we were in a WFH state I'd just start my day later and go do water aerobics one day per week. Again, not exercise, strengthening my knee.
When we returned to the office both things got lost in the shuffle and the weight came back. I'm trying to carve out the time again, but the weather is not cooperating.
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Post by bethany102399 on Jan 4, 2023 16:47:33 GMT
I think you need to think of it as “just something you do”. Like brushing your teeth or making your bed. I don’t enjoy cleaning but I don’t let my house get filthy. I agree. I was thinking about this last night as I brushed my teeth. I have a cleaning next week which I dread. it's just something I do to take care of myself. I will never enjoy it, but it's what needs to happen to be able to live my best life.
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Post by janeliz on Jan 4, 2023 16:48:21 GMT
I think walking is a great start. Find a music playlist, podcast, or audiobook you can listen to while walking. Getting to listen to a new episode of a favorite podcast makes that long walk something I look forward to. If I’m walking on a treadmill, I watch a show or movie.
Once you’re out there and moving and enjoying the process, you might find that you’re ready to try some new workouts and routines.
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Post by peano on Jan 4, 2023 16:59:54 GMT
You must learn to take responsibility for your behavior and defer gratification. I view healthy eating and exercise as a reward for taking care of the one body I have been given. The punishment is feeling physically bad, and having medical consquences when I don't.
There are no quick fixes, no magic potions to change your mindset. All you can do at this point is ask yourself: do I want to continue on my current path where my choices are going to start catching up with me or do I want to preserve/improve my health?
You won't reap the benefits--endorphins, awareness of body integrity--if you don't do it consistently. Nobody (me included) enjoys starting to exercise when they've been sedentary for 10 years. Your muscles are tight, your body is creaky and stiff. You are initially going to feel worse after exercise, but that is your muscles breaking down, and then building up. That is your body getting stronger.
When starting out, you also don't have to be a hero; when I was at my heaviest, it was a real challenge for me to walk to the mailbox--it killed my back. But that's how I started. I also got a dog and that made me accountable to someone, because how can you resist those liquid brown eyes? It helped me build a daily walking practice which involves getting out in nature every day. It's my time to check in with myself mentally, physically and spiritually. I've started writing so I write things in my head. I throw the ball for my dog and that's fun.
I don't know how old you are, but I've noticed as I got into my 60s that I needed to pay my body more attention, not less. I took up yoga, which I always scorned, but it's amazing to me how much stronger I've gotten in a year and a half of two sessions a week. And I practice a gentle yoga--no huffing and puffing
My body doesn't tolerate crap food very well anymore. Too much sugar gives me heart palpitations and makes me depressed. Honestly, what was most helpful to me was following a super clean diet for five years. When I cut out the crap I discovered how good real food tastes. I'm not saying you have to do that, but the truth is you won't ever know how good real food tastes unless you give it a chance.
And beyond just the physical rewards, when DS has a child, I will be an old grandma. I want to preserve my health as much as possible so I will be able to enjoy the experience.
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Post by Merge on Jan 4, 2023 17:11:21 GMT
A lot of this is tied up in our own mental health, our internalized societal and familial messages about what is good/bad, healthy/unhealthy, worthy/not worthy, and the way women are treated by the medical establishment.
I'd encourage you to avoid any messaging about what you should "simply" do (nothing about this is simple) and perhaps first seek out a therapist who specializes in body image and weight issues. Yes, there is a time and place for giving yourself a little tough love, but it sounds like right now you're not in the right head space for that.
You deserve to be happy and healthy and you do not deserve to be punished for your body size. Until you can come to that realization, I think you'll continue to struggle.
If you can, I think it's also helpful to find a doctor who looks at your overall health picture and not just your weight as the root of all problems.
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Post by hop2 on Jan 4, 2023 17:15:45 GMT
You have to stop exercising because of what you ate. It’s not really an exchange like that. If you’re exercising the wrong thing at the wrong time increasing cortisol you’re going to hold onto fat anyway. It isn’t a payment-withdrawl relationship like so many people think or assume or have been taught.
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Post by Lexica on Jan 4, 2023 17:58:34 GMT
I agree with starting out by walking. When I was working a job that was only 2 1/2 miles from my house, a coworker would drive to my house and we would walk to the office together. I thoroughly enjoyed it because we talked and laughed and had fun while doing it. Plus, our company paid employees $5 per day that we didn't drive our cars to work. Since we both walked, we both made that $5. It was put toward our lunch most days. And the bonus was that we both lost some weight and developed some strength in our legs because some of the walk was uphill. We walked together for well over a year, even in the winter because my area of California rarely got much rain.
Can you find a walking buddy? Or do you have a dog? I haven't been walking regularly here yet at my new home. Between the rains and so much to do and needing to be here for various contractors, I haven't done very well. But I do plan to get started today after I get a few things done inside.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Jan 4, 2023 18:02:54 GMT
I am in the same situation. Borderline on the sugar levels.
I go to the gym, because I have to.... not because I want to. I love walking (currently at about two miles, aiming for five miles), so I do that. Then I tell myself since I am here, do at least one machine.
For me, it's psychological. My personal operating system, works best with rewards, something to work for. I told myself starting January 1, each time I go to the gym, I will put $1 in a envelope. Then I can treat myself to something (probably scrapbook goodies)....every month or quarter, etc... I love this type of personal challenge. While it doesn't add up to much money....it's still a reward for accomplishment. The more I go to the gym, the more "reward money" I will have. Totally psychological, but it motivates me.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jan 4, 2023 18:12:37 GMT
The other day I was listening to a podcast (I think) and the person said that we need to parent ourselves. When our kids say they want lots of junk food, to sit around playing video games all day every day, or to do something that isn’t good for them, we set boundaries and we parent them. We need to do the same for ourselves. I’m trying to remember that when I have the urge to eat something that isn’t in line with my goals.
Another activity to do is to explore your “why”. Get out some paper and ask yourself why do you want to lose weight/exercise/whatever your goal is? Then under that ask yourself “why” again and answer the question. Keep doing that until you get to the bottom of your “why.” It’s likely that exercise and eating healthy are a means to reaching a bigger goal, and knowing that goal will help to see those activities as purposeful as opposed to punishment.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2023 18:26:00 GMT
As for getting exercise, I'd suggest walking/hiking outdoors and rather looking at it as "having to" think of it as making the time to "get to" and when you do, don't focus on the walk, and instead focus on what's around you and what you see. We have a variety of trail options that we drive to (ranging from from 3-10 miles away since we live out of town) and each has different things to see or types of trails. I love to be looking around or maybe stop here and there to check out nature or snap some pictures. And usually my dog is along about 1/2 the time. I love it, and I'm fortunate that I can also do that around my yard, if I make a full loop once around it's 1 mile, so I usually do 2 loops which is basically taking my dog out for a long walk.
If indoors and you don't have one, how about getting a treadmill? I will set up my iPad on mine and watch Netflix or YouTube while I walk. I actually need to get on this, since my trail walking is getting limited from our snowfall.
We also bike (as a couple, so it's easier to be motivated to go) and have a variety of trail options depending on what we want to see or how challenging we want to make it. I love biking but it's a little harder to fit in time wise, since my DH already goes 2x a week with a buddy.
Every once in awhile, I think I'd like to join the YMCA to have the option and accountability of doing group fitness classes. We seem to keep active enough for the most part that I haven't, although I'm always open to the possibility (and honestly, my health could use it). I do have the Peloton app and I love their strength and cardio workouts; you don't need their equipment to use them. The yoga and meditation classes are also a good, too, and aren't as much of a "sweaty" workout if helps you.
Beyond that, setting goals and rewarding yourself really work, especially if it gets you into a habit of wanting to make time for it permanently.
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Post by katlady on Jan 4, 2023 18:33:44 GMT
About walking, if the weather is not good (too hot/cold), go to the mall. One of our indoor malls has walking markers on the floor. You can people watch as you walk around, or glance into stores to take your mind off of the fact that you are exercising. There are even clubs that do morning walks in the mall.
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Post by stine on Jan 4, 2023 18:43:17 GMT
I had to force myself to exercise at first. The mental games involved were numerous and creative but somewhere along the way I realized that I honestly felt better when I was consistent. Do I love it now? Nope, but it's a part of my day and I frequently switch up what I do, what I listen to while doing it, where I work out, all in an effort to keep it fresh. Food is the biggest place that I see an improvement though. I noticed it again after the holidays when my body felt like crap because of my food choices. Somewhere along the line I found that I prefer whole foods over boxed junk and while I can still annihilate a bag of chips on occasion, I feel so much better when I eat the good foods. I just listened to my body to see what certain foods did 'to me' (stomach pains, bloating) or 'for me' (energy, clearer skin).
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Post by smalltowngirlie on Jan 4, 2023 18:53:41 GMT
I just moved to the pre-diabetic range also. I met with a nutritionist, because even though I know what I need to do, I did have some questions. She was great. She answered all my questions and her biggest thing was EVERYTHING in moderation. She emphasized to cut out as much sugar as possible and greatly reduce my carbs, but if I have a piece of chocolate now and then, do not beat myself up. She started me on a simple goal, I got to choose and that was no pop. I have been very good and only have had it twice, and much smaller serving than I used to have. DH was quite impressed I threw out the remaining pop rather than taking it with me.
Now, exercise is a different story. I just got a treadmill and DH and DS helped get it downstairs for me. Now it is up to me to get on it. I am going to do what I can. If that means 15 minutes, hey, it is 15 minutes more than yesterday. I can and will work my way up. I much prefer walking outside and have some great trails close by to walk on, but over a foot of snow in the last 24 hours would make that kind of difficult.
Don't expect it to be fun and enjoy, like others said, it is just something we have to do.
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Post by wellway on Jan 4, 2023 18:54:25 GMT
Consider all the changes as an investment in your future, you decide the return. What are you worth to yourself?
Set goals, small achievable goals, set rewards, a book or other item that you consider a treat.
If doing it for yourself is hard, maybe pick a charity event that you can train for, perhaps with a friend, and raise some funds. Here, a breast cancer charity has events around the country where women dress in pink and walk or run 5 or 10 kms. Would an aim like that help?
In the meantime, add extra walking to your day by, parking further from the front door of the store or office, walk up a flight of stairs rather than take the lift.
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Post by hopechest on Jan 4, 2023 21:05:55 GMT
I have to distract myself completely. I watch Netflix or something on my phone. Also, my husband bought me a masterclass subscription for Christmas, so I plan on taking "classes" during my walk too!
Also I agree with mindset. It's not punishment, it's like brushing your teeth. I don't want to, but I have to. It just is.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Jan 4, 2023 21:26:49 GMT
I agree with starting out by walking. When I was working a job that was only 2 1/2 miles from my house, a coworker would drive to my house and we would walk to the office together. I thoroughly enjoyed it because we talked and laughed and had fun while doing it. Plus, our company paid employees $5 per day that we didn't drive our cars to work. Since we both walked, we both made that $5. It was put toward our lunch most days. And the bonus was that we both lost some weight and developed some strength in our legs because some of the walk was uphill. We walked together for well over a year, even in the winter because my area of California rarely got much rain. Can you find a walking buddy? Or do you have a dog? I haven't been walking regularly here yet at my new home. Between the rains and so much to do and needing to be here for various contractors, I haven't done very well. But I do plan to get started today after I get a few things done inside. This is what I do - I found walking buddies during the pandemic and have kept it up. I need that mental break, and it feels like socializing and fun vs work and exercise! My friend and I walk for about an hour and it feels like 15 minutes. When I walk by myself or do an class or something, it feels like the full hour and then some!
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Post by keithurbanlovinpea on Jan 4, 2023 21:57:00 GMT
Isn't living in a body that is not supporting your desire to live a long and healthy life also a kind of punishment?
Everything is a choice. We may not like the choices but they still exist. I love my body and I choose to feed it (mostly) best foods and care for it. I only get one body, one me, one chance on earth to be the best version myself. That feels empowering to me.
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Post by trixiecat on Jan 4, 2023 23:32:00 GMT
Everyone has different motivators. I despised exercising for years. I came from an era where my mom would tell me I needed a girdle at the age of 17 (I was maybe 15 pounds overweight). It really messed me up. I would go on 600 calorie diets to lose weight. I just didn't like investing the time. So I would starve myself to stay thin. Not sure what changed, but I started working out 6 years ago. I really felt good about myself. I have had my ups and downs with going regularly. It is more of a struggle nowadays for some reason. But...I found ways to enjoy it more. When I got tired of walking and listening to music, I upped it to listening to audiobooks. Wanting to get out and walk to listen further into the book was motivating. Today I was at the gym. I am 60. I enjoy working out with weights because I know how important it is as I get older. And I feel good about myself. I pray you find an answer. It is all about feeling better and living longer. I have a 21 year old who is really overweight and I can't say anything to her. I don't want the stigma over her like it was on me. She chooses not to exercise and eats horribly and is about 70 pounds over what she should be. I can't see it changing and I believe hers is related to genetics (she is adopted) and her not healthy habits.
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Post by getting started on Jan 5, 2023 0:21:35 GMT
I walk. Sure there are other things I do occasionally but every day I walk. When I couldn't find friends to walk with I started listening to books on my walks. I was never an audio person, but it really makes the walks enjoyable! Sometimes I look forward to my walk not because of the exercise but because I want to hear the next part of the audio book!
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Post by Legacy Girl on Jan 5, 2023 7:46:45 GMT
Just popping on to say I completely understand, OP. I am in terrible shape and although I have found times in my life where I have pursued exercise long enough for it to provide endorphins that carry me, now is not one of those times. I have never done yoga before, but I have to do something, so I've signed up for a plus-size yoga class for seniors even though I don't really qualify as a senior. My first session is tomorrow, so I'm hoping for any positive outcome, even if it's just fewer creaking joints and increased flexibility over time. Hope you can find some small step that will help you move closer to your goals. I'll be cheering you on from afar!
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Jan 5, 2023 10:07:46 GMT
Mindfulness may help shift your mindset. Especially if this comes from a deeply rooted belief system. There are mindfulness activities for exercising and eating.
Ancient Aryuvedic medicine believes it’s not always about what you eat but how you eat.
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Post by monklady123 on Jan 5, 2023 10:29:05 GMT
I think walking is a great start. Find a music playlist, podcast, or audiobook you can listen to while walking. Getting to listen to a new episode of a favorite podcast makes that long walk something I look forward to. If I’m walking on a treadmill, I watch a show or movie. Once you’re out there and moving and enjoying the process, you might find that you’re ready to try some new workouts and routines. Good advice about the music or podcast or audiobook... But, I have to laugh about your comment that I bolded. I have walked on and off (mostly "on") since the pandemic. And I have yet to enjoy myself. Maybe in certain kind of weather -- a crisp almost-cold fall day -- it's not too bad. But never enjoyable. I'm with the OP and I always roll my eyes when people say "find an exercise you enjoy". Nope. lol.
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Post by peasapie on Jan 5, 2023 11:01:39 GMT
I didn’t start exercising til my 40s and I really was annoyed about doing it. I literally started by walking one block, not because I wasn’t able to do more but because I didn’t want to. I did that for at least a week before I felt like increasing it to 1 1/2 blocks, then 2. I think the resistance came from a place of not wanting to do what anyone tells me to do, even though I knew I should get moving to lose some weight.
I eventually worked up to walking a couple of miles a day, and when winter came I decided to join a gym — another first for me. I started with a simple exercise routine given to me by one of the trainers: 15 mins on treadmill and 15 on weight machines. Again I was annoyed in the beginning, but I kept doing it because it became a routine.
I’ve been walking and exercising ever since. I don’t like dance workout routines, or yoga, or sports like tennis or pickleball. But I can walk and work out on the machines, and 20 years later I’m still doing it. I now “identify” as someone who works out — so for me it became a shift in mindset. Maybe you can trick yourself into working out like I did, even if it is annoying at first. Start very small and repeat daily.
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Post by ExpatBackHome on Jan 5, 2023 11:24:35 GMT
I walk solo or with a friend. I feel better and sleep better with outdoor exercising & friendship. That’s the easy part for me. The food is harder. As of right now I’m trying to add more fruit/veggies so I make a platter and put it out before dinner. Everyone ends up eating off of it while I get dinner on the table. My DH eats what’s left after dinner. Good luck!!!
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Post by elaine on Jan 5, 2023 11:27:22 GMT
If you love to read, listen to books via Audible while you walk/exercise. On the days I am not teaching, I walk 3-4 miles per day while listening to books. On teaching days it is only 1 miles, but I teach 3rd grade, so get plenty of exercise during the week. I “read” about 3 books per month on Audible while walking.
When I need to lose weight, it IS hard. I do make a conscious effort to change my negative thoughts as soon I have them. When I am mildly hungry, especially at bedtime, I purposefully and consciously change the “I’m hungry and it is awful” to “feeling hungry is good because I know that I am losing weight, and I will feel much better in the morning.” I also tell myself, because it is true, that after some time, eating smaller portions and feeling mildly hungry at times means that my stomach will get used to smaller portions and it will take less to fill me up.
All this to say, for me, it does take a conscious effort to change my thoughts about changing my eating and exercise. Because my life is so chaotic, I do enjoy the quiet time to walk and listen to books. I pick books that I want to read/listen to and look forward to listening to/reading more each day. So, in that sense exercise is enjoyable.
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