pinklady
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Post by pinklady on Jan 15, 2023 23:22:00 GMT
This is a sick twisted country we live in.
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Post by peabay on Jan 15, 2023 23:26:48 GMT
That poor baby. It makes me so, so sad.
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Post by epeanymous on Jan 15, 2023 23:34:00 GMT
Not that it matters for the point, but that kid doesn't to me look like or move like a toddler. It looks to me like a four or five year old, which I mention because the whole thing -- unsupervised kid, not wearing clothes, a little older than most kids wear diapers -- suggests general neglect as well as the endangerment (believe me, well aware that kids that age for various reasons might be wearing a diaper with good, attentive parents).
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Post by Lexica on Jan 16, 2023 0:08:59 GMT
Not that it matters for the point, but that kid doesn't to me look like or move like a toddler. It looks to me like a four or five year old, which I mention because the whole thing -- unsupervised kid, not wearing clothes, a little older than most kids wear diapers -- suggests general neglect as well as the endangerment (believe me, well aware that kids that age for various reasons might be wearing a diaper with good, attentive parents). I thought he looked older when I watched it too. And the way he handles the gun was just so scary and seemed experienced. Of course, I can't tell how tall he is from the video, but regardless of his age, he should not be outside his apartment in diapers with no one watching him. I hope this now gets him some proper supervision. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jan 16, 2023 0:15:32 GMT
A lot of people call their kids toddlers when they are, technically, preschoolers. Either way, he shouldn’t have been able to get a gun and was clearly not well supervised overall. hopefully he is in a safer place now.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 16, 2023 2:23:51 GMT
All he had to do was shoot out one of the apartment doors and killed someone.
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Post by tmarschall on Jan 16, 2023 2:31:51 GMT
I used to live in Beech Grove. Always in the news for the wrong stuff...women fighting in walmart went viral a few years back. This is horrifying. I'm betting this isn't the first time that child has held a gun. Or been unsupervised. So sad.
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Post by Judie in Oz on Jan 16, 2023 8:23:41 GMT
It's so shocking that it even made the news here in Australia. I'm so glad we have tough gun laws here.
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Post by SuPeaNatural on Jan 16, 2023 9:44:20 GMT
I second that Judie in Oz. I hope that dear little fellow has some decent relatives that will take him.
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Post by hannahruth on Jan 16, 2023 14:40:52 GMT
It's so shocking that it even made the news here in Australia. I'm so glad we have tough gun laws here. Absolutely the best thing having such strict gun laws. |
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jan 16, 2023 15:29:03 GMT
Reports say the kid is 3, but I find that hard to believe! I don’t. I personally know someone whose kid at three years old was as big as a six year old. I saw the kid and asked the mom if he was in kindergarten or first grade and she laughed at me and said, “Oh no, he’s only THREE! He’s not even in pre-k yet! Yeah, he’s a *really* big boy.” 😳😬 |
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Post by gracieplusthree on Jan 16, 2023 15:59:26 GMT
Hopefully it isn't a real gun..
Doesn't too much matter the age of the kid. Still a kid regardless. My 2yr old gbaby wears size 4 and 5 on the regular because she's so tall for her age. He could be younger than his height shows, he's a bit more than half the height of the door, my gbaby is nearly half of her front door and turns 2 this week..
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Post by amom23 on Jan 16, 2023 15:59:46 GMT
Reports say the kid is 3, but I find that hard to believe! Remember there is a big difference in a child who just turned 3 and one who's going on 4. My niece was super tall for her age and people always assumed she was older. We have family friends who's 5 year old is taller than the average 2nd grader. His parents are 6'5 and 6'3. Regardless of how old the kid is or looks it's really sad he had access to a gun and was left unsupervised. |
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Post by Merge on Jan 16, 2023 16:47:47 GMT
Speaking as mom of an almost six-foot 12-year-old girl back in the day, kids come in all sizes.
Let’s focus on the fact that this kid had access to a loaded gun and was wandering around outside by himself.
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Post by Gennifer on Jan 16, 2023 16:56:35 GMT
Hopefully it isn't a real gun.. Per the headline above, the gun is real and was loaded. In the article it mentions that the kid pulled the trigger but it didn’t shoot because there wasn’t a bullet in the chamber. |
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Post by pinklady on Jan 16, 2023 17:07:11 GMT
The fact that most of the responses here are debating the kids age, size and if it’s a “toddler” above anything else is so deeply disturbing. Are you really that numb to gun violence that’s your focus? Some of you need some serious retrospection. This country is doomed.
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Post by grammanisi on Jan 16, 2023 17:13:16 GMT
We were watching On Patrol Live when this happened. At first police acted like they weren't very concerned since the dad said he didn't own a gun and they didn't locate one(after a very minimal search). They told the 911 caller that they didn't find one, even after the caller explained that she sold guns and knew it was real.
As they were leaving the building a person stopped them, because she had video on her ring camera. After viewing it, they went back in the apartment and quickly found the gun.
It was concerning to us that they were leaving without really searching or questioning the little boy. I would've thought that they would at least ask him if he was playing with a gun. Real or otherwise.
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Post by leeny on Jan 16, 2023 18:48:39 GMT
We were watching On Patrol Live when this happened. At first police acted like they weren't very concerned since the dad said he didn't own a gun and they didn't locate one(after a very minimal search). They told the 911 caller that they didn't find one, even after the caller explained that she sold guns and knew it was real. As they were leaving the building a person stopped them, because she had video on her ring camera. After viewing it, they went back in the apartment and quickly found the gun. It was concerning to us that they were leaving without really searching or questioning the little boy. I would've thought that they would at least ask him if he was playing with a gun. Real or otherwise. We were watching too. This was one crazy story. Dad is a convicted felon and should not have even had the gun. I am so glad the neighbors stepped forward. |
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Post by belgravia on Jan 16, 2023 19:26:46 GMT
This SHOULD be shocking, but unfortunately it’s not really. With gun laws practically non existent or unenforced in many states in the US, this is going to happen more and more often. Same with the 6 year old shooting a classmate. It’s the inevitable end result of gun culture gone wild.
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Post by katiejane on Jan 16, 2023 19:49:10 GMT
This make my blood run cold. I cannot imagine a child playing with a gun. I also don't why this does not scare everyone and there is not a call to action about guns. Children should be protected from the country's love affair with guns.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jan 16, 2023 22:53:42 GMT
The fact that most of the responses here are debating the kids age, size and if it’s a “toddler” above anything else is so deeply disturbing. Are you really that numb to gun violence that’s your focus? Some of you need some serious retrospection. This country is doomed. I commented on the kid’s age/size and I totally agree with you. It doesn’t matter what age the kid is, he shouldn’t have had access to a gun, period. It’s so messed up. |
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Post by pilcas on Jan 16, 2023 23:31:44 GMT
This make my blood run cold. I cannot imagine a child playing with a gun. I also don't why this does not scare everyone and there is not a call to action about guns. Children should be protected from the country's love affair with guns. It scares most of us except for those lawmakers who are receiving “donations” for their campaigns. |
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Post by bluebird71 on Jan 17, 2023 18:44:47 GMT
The dad is a convicted felon. So this was what you'd call an illegal gun, yes?
That father should not have custody of a child, and that is sad bc the foster care system isn't great either.
I am glad that child didn't kill someone. He could have.
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Post by lesserknownpea on Jan 17, 2023 19:23:11 GMT
So, wait. The police either didn’t check or care that the father was a convicted felon, in which case the presence of a gun would be a crime. They basically took his word for it. If the neighbor did not have footage to show them, nothing would have happened.
So I am disgusted by this father’s criminal behavior.
I’m also very disappointed in the police’s response.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 17, 2023 19:57:59 GMT
Worse.. it was shown LIVE on TV...
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