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Post by Mel on Feb 3, 2023 17:47:25 GMT
So apparently Netflix is backpedaling a little bit... NetFlix
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Feb 3, 2023 17:52:47 GMT
HA! I still think they'll roll out something similar if not exact here in the US.
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Post by Mel on Feb 3, 2023 17:55:19 GMT
HA! I still think they'll roll out something similar if not exact here in the US. That does seem pretty likely but I bet they had a bunch of cancelations of accounts yesterday and are realizing that it will indeed effect their bottom line.
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Post by Rhondito on Feb 3, 2023 19:29:22 GMT
I'm absolutely okay with paying $2.99 a month to share an account with my daughter, and I don't think it's wrong for them to charge for it.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Feb 3, 2023 19:39:07 GMT
I'm absolutely okay with paying $2.99 a month to share an account with my daughter, and I don't think it's wrong for them to charge for it. We don’t share but if you could pay 2.99 to share I think it would encourage more to share with friends or family? That said they need to figure out the traveling thing as many people travel and use it away from home and like some in here will watch at family’s house while babysitting. We pay for multiple screens but honestly only use one but want HD. I haven’t read the article but from what I have seen many said they would just cancel vs paying more.
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Post by worrywart on Feb 3, 2023 19:54:52 GMT
Yeah, they have previously said that mobile devices would be okay but TVs outside the home will be considered additional homes.
Right or wrong I do think that this will hurt their bottom line at least for a while.
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Post by monklady123 on Feb 3, 2023 19:57:04 GMT
I haven't read the link yet... But, I'll be interested to see what they try to do with those of us who pay already for more "screens". I pay for four, which we did when my kids were both still at home. Now one is in Georgia and one is in southern Virginia but both still use their access. If I'm paying for four then I should be able to choose my four. If Netflix tells me I can't then I'll cancel the four and go back to paying the minimum. If they're talking about charging people extra per month for each other account...well, isn't that what I'm doing by paying for four screens? Maybe the difference is that my four screens are supposed to be in the one house? I don't mind paying something per month to keep dd and ds on our account but I won't then continue to pay for four screens here at home.
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Post by merry27 on Feb 3, 2023 20:06:52 GMT
I haven't read the link yet... But, I'll be interested to see what they try to do with those of us who pay already for more "screens". I pay for four, which we did when my kids were both still at home. Now one is in Georgia and one is in southern Virginia but both still use their access. If I'm paying for four then I should be able to choose my four. If Netflix tells me I can't then I'll cancel the four and go back to paying the minimum. If they're talking about charging people extra per month for each other account...well, isn't that what I'm doing by paying for four screens? Maybe the difference is that my four screens are supposed to be in the one house? I don't mind paying something per month to keep dd and ds on our account but I won't then continue to pay for four screens here at home. Yes- the 4 screens are supposed to be in the same house.
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Post by pinklady on Feb 3, 2023 20:32:31 GMT
I read the article and it doesn't say they are backpedaling on anything. They just posted the guidelines too soon and removed them.
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Post by shamrock on Feb 3, 2023 21:48:23 GMT
My friends and I’ve been discussing this. Our kids are in college and use the family Netflix accounts (as well as all the other family accounts LOL) I think Netflix will be in for a surprise. We pay for the highest package so we have the most screens available to watch. It shouldn’t matter where those screens are. My college kid is still part of the family unit even though they live away 5 months at a time (home a month at Christmas and a bit over the summer.)
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Post by littlemama on Feb 3, 2023 22:41:36 GMT
With their new rules, the following could not use the household account: Kids away for college who cant or dont come home once a month Military spouses or kids. People travelling for a long time People who use data and not wifi. I pay for 4 screens. I dont think it should matter where the screens happen to be
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Post by sweetpeasmom on Feb 4, 2023 14:50:02 GMT
I'm still confused on what this constitutes. My account has 4 profiles - mine, dh, ds and dd. DS lives in our detached in-law apartment. Still on our wifi. So when he logs in on his smart tv, it's still on our property. Dd is away at school and has a Roku and logs in there under her profile. Does this mean she can't?
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Post by rickmer on Feb 4, 2023 15:01:18 GMT
i pay for 4 screens. my kids spend one week with me, one week with their dad. he has the basic plan just for him. just one of *many* ways he skimps out of paying his fair share. so if they can't use mine at his house, that's on him to upgrade his account i guess.
he also has a cottage, so can't use your netflix account at home AND a cottage? that would annoy me. i certainly wouldn't get two accounts for home and cottage. unfortunately, no cottage for me so that's a non-issue.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Feb 4, 2023 15:07:38 GMT
With their new rules, the following could not use the household account: Kids away for college who cant or dont come home once a month Military spouses or kids. People travelling for a long time People who use data and not wifi. I pay for 4 screens. I dont think it should matter where the screens happen to be I agree with you. It shouldn’t matter where the four screens are. If you’re already paying for them what difference does it make? We have a house and a lake home and we watch Netflix in both places. Usually only one or the other, but occasionally one of us will be at the lake and the other will be at home and we might both want to watch something on that service simultaneously. It shouldn’t matter if we’re watching on an internet connected smart tv or on a tablet, phone, whatever. I don’t think we will pay for two subscriptions if we had to have one for each place. We know quite a few people with our same situation. However, I think if someone is paying for only one screen and they are watching on their own tv, if they share their account with ten other people who also try to log in and watch something simultaneously, they should not be allowed to do that. I don’t know how you would police that though. I think if I was paying for a service and letting other people share without paying, it would come around to bite me in the butt if I couldn’t log in and watch what I wanted to when I wanted to if someone else was already logged in watching under my account. I think more people would cut off the freeloaders in that scenario.
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Post by breetheflea on Feb 4, 2023 16:14:22 GMT
I read the article and it doesn't say they are backpedaling on anything. They just posted the guidelines too soon and removed them. I don't see an oops or a backpedal either. We use a Firestick (no idea how that works) when we travel, but if Netflix doesn't let us use it anymore we'll watch the hotel TV or a dvd or just not watch TV. Remember in the ancient times when you used to have to share a TV and the shows were only on a certain time and day? How did we survive
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Post by chaosisapony on Feb 4, 2023 16:37:49 GMT
According to the article they aren't backpedaling, they just removed the information from their site. Personally I think they leaked this info on purpose to get an idea of the customer's reactions. It really hasn't been favorable. There are a lot of people with legitimate situations this would cause an annoyance for, including myself. And with so many other streaming services somehow able to understand that I have a tv I watch on one property and one on another property, why can't Netflix figure that out? Having to get a temporary code or log in every 30 days or whatever... yeah no thanks. No other service makes me do that.
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Post by SabrinaP on Feb 4, 2023 16:54:49 GMT
I'm still confused on what this constitutes. My account has 4 profiles - mine, dh, ds and dd. DS lives in our detached in-law apartment. Still on our wifi. So when he logs in on his smart tv, it's still on our property. Dd is away at school and has a Roku and logs in there under her profile. Does this mean she can't? According to what Netflix released earlier in the week, everyone will have to declare their home network and then each profile will have to login to that home network at least once every 31 days to stay valid. So if you have a college kid that only comes home on long breaks, this will affect them since they are using their college network to stream. If you are someone that travels and streams using data only, this will affect you unless you connect to the home Wi-Fi every 31 days. If you have a vacation home and use a smart TV you would need two accounts since the vacation home wouldn’t be able to connect to the home Wi-Fi every 31 days. I really just wonder how big of a problem this really was. Like are there tons of users sharing with random people or extended family not living in their home? My DS is about to go to college. I think he should be able to stay on our plan. I would be willing to pay a tiny bit more, but there is no way I’m paying for two separate accounts.
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Post by minjoy on Feb 4, 2023 17:16:34 GMT
I think, maybe not on this board, there are lots of people sharing accounts. I mean like two different houses sharing, which I do not think is how multiple screen accounts is meant to be used.
We pay for multiple screens mainly because of phones and iPads. So someone could be using it on the tv and I might be on my iPad. We do have a camper at a permanent spot with internet that we pay for thru a local provider. We do use a fire stick there. We could bring it home once a month but we could also just watch something else from our other streaming services.
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Post by monklady123 on Feb 4, 2023 18:06:17 GMT
Remember in the ancient times when you used to have to share a TV and the shows were only on a certain time and day? How did we survive I remember my kids' amazement when I told them how we would look forward to movies such as "The Wizard of Oz" when it came on only once per year. We'd plan for that night, get the popcorn ready, etc. And if there was a power failure or some other reason we had to miss "Oz" then we were out of luck for another year. My kids just could not believe it. hahaha
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Post by Bridget in MD on Feb 4, 2023 18:48:29 GMT
I'm still confused on what this constitutes. My account has 4 profiles - mine, dh, ds and dd. DS lives in our detached in-law apartment. Still on our wifi. So when he logs in on his smart tv, it's still on our property. Dd is away at school and has a Roku and logs in there under her profile. Does this mean she can't? I pay for the lowest version of netflix (well, i think there is one lower, that includes commericals, I have no commericals). That includes 2 screens/devices. I have one Netflix account, and it has 4 profiles - one for me, DH, DD, and DS. However, if DS and DD are streaming and I go to stream something, it will say no devices available or something. One of them has to stop for me to stream. If I were to pay for the 4 device option, it means 4 people could stream from the 1 account at the same time. From what I understand, Disney+ is encouraging this type of sharing. I think Netflix has already seen the rage of the users - lots of accounts cancelled and people calling customer service bitching about how are they going to accomodate this mess. So they are now saying "oh, that was only for certain countries, ie, Peru, Chile, etc". I also don't think they have really thought this through (ie, college kids, military, etc). I agree, if I pay for 4 devices, I don't think Netflix should care where those devices log on from, this is to stop the accounts like my friend who borrows Netflix from another friend. In turn, she pays for HBO and shares that account (or something). It's not right, but thats the agreement they struck. In that case, both Netflix and HBO are down an account bc they are sharing it. I have not thought about when my kids are completely out of the house, would I cut them off? It's kind of like my sister who is on the family home plan with my parents for her cell phone. She's in her 40s and still on their plan. I have no idea if my parents pay for her or what financial arrangement they have made, if any. On TikTok, they are saying Netflix is different than other streaming platforms - they are all in debt, but most of the others have a parent to absorb the debt. Amazon Prime has a Amazon, Disney+ and Hulu have Disney (aka theme parks), etc. Netflix was the OG and does not have a parent company. This is all super interesting to me. If they are to cut my family's access, I could see us subscribing for a month or 2 to watch a show, like we do for Apple TV - watch Ted Lasso, and then we cancel. But if they made it super hard with passcodes and verification codes, I'd be frustrated and pissed and probably just cancel.
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Post by Restless Spirit on Feb 4, 2023 19:10:21 GMT
I have a read that 2022 was a pretty rough year for Netflix. For the first time in over a decade, they actually lost subscribers. Netflix has said it estimates that over 100 million households worldwide are using shared accounts. With revenues down, it’s a no wonder that they want to realign and bring account sharing under control for those that are not paying anything extra for sharing their passwords. It’s a sound business decision and comes as no surprise to me.
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Post by monklady123 on Feb 4, 2023 19:13:41 GMT
I have a read that 2022 was a pretty rough year for Netflix. For the first time in over a decade, they actually lost subscribers. Netflix has said it estimates that over 100 million households worldwide are using shared accounts. With revenues down, it’s a no wonder that they want to realign and bring account sharing under control for those that are not paying anything extra for sharing their passwords. It’s a sound business decision and comes as no surprise to me. Yes, it makes sense up to a point. But, if I'm paying for four screens then I should be able to choose my four. Like my college student who's away at school, or my military spouse, or me and my partners as we RV for part of the year. Etc. If I'm not allowed to keep my kids on my 4-screen account then Netflix is going to lose money anyway because I'll be dropping it down to two screens.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Feb 4, 2023 20:01:28 GMT
We have Netflix on many devices within our house - we also have both Spectrum and Frontier for wifi I wonder if that is going to mess things up. Its all the same house and we don't usually switch back and forth but I occasionally will switch from one to the other if one is down. We also don't log into it on all devices every month I wonder if that will trigger something. We are not the norm but ... I do wonder. I guess time will tell.
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Post by Basket1lady on Feb 4, 2023 20:28:03 GMT
I have a read that 2022 was a pretty rough year for Netflix. For the first time in over a decade, they actually lost subscribers. Netflix has said it estimates that over 100 million households worldwide are using shared accounts. With revenues down, it’s a no wonder that they want to realign and bring account sharing under control for those that are not paying anything extra for sharing their passwords. It’s a sound business decision and comes as no surprise to me. I absolutely cannot feel sorry for the Netflix shareholders. They just cruised through a pandemic--of course they had an increase in subscribers! And it makes perfect sense that their numbers would be down now. It's just corporate greed. People can do other things besides stay at home and watch a screen. During the pandemic, I paid for additional users. But during Netflix's last increase, I dropped it down to one user. Neither kid watched it enough to pay the extra amount. DS is on his own now, but DD (in grad school) is still legally our dependent per the US military. If it's good enough for them, it should be good enough for Netflix. If I'm paying for one account, any member of my household should be able to use that account. I wonder what they would have done when we were traveling before we moved back to the US. We didn't have a home ISP--we didn't have a home for a good 3 months. NO NETFLIX FOR YOU!
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Feb 4, 2023 20:39:41 GMT
I haven't read the link yet... But, I'll be interested to see what they try to do with those of us who pay already for more "screens". I pay for four, which we did when my kids were both still at home. Now one is in Georgia and one is in southern Virginia but both still use their access. If I'm paying for four then I should be able to choose my four. If Netflix tells me I can't then I'll cancel the four and go back to paying the minimum. If they're talking about charging people extra per month for each other account...well, isn't that what I'm doing by paying for four screens? Maybe the difference is that my four screens are supposed to be in the one house? I don't mind paying something per month to keep dd and ds on our account but I won't then continue to pay for four screens here at home. This. If I can't share 3 of my screens with my DDs, I will cancel all of it. I don't watch it enough to justify an account that can't be shared. I don't have Hulu or Disney+, either, and I only get ESPN+ on a monthly basis if I need it to watch college football or basketball. We are still "cable" people in my house, plus Amazon Prime. We get pretty much everything we want to watch that way.
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Feb 4, 2023 20:43:25 GMT
I'm still confused on what this constitutes. My account has 4 profiles - mine, dh, ds and dd. DS lives in our detached in-law apartment. Still on our wifi. So when he logs in on his smart tv, it's still on our property. Dd is away at school and has a Roku and logs in there under her profile. Does this mean she can't? I pay for the lowest version of netflix (well, i think there is one lower, that includes commericals, I have no commericals). That includes 2 screens/devices. I have one Netflix account, and it has 4 profiles - one for me, DH, DD, and DS. However, if DS and DD are streaming and I go to stream something, it will say no devices available or something. One of them has to stop for me to stream. If I were to pay for the 4 device option, it means 4 people could stream from the 1 account at the same time. From what I understand, Disney+ is encouraging this type of sharing. I think Netflix has already seen the rage of the users - lots of accounts cancelled and people calling customer service bitching about how are they going to accomodate this mess. So they are now saying "oh, that was only for certain countries, ie, Peru, Chile, etc". I also don't think they have really thought this through (ie, college kids, military, etc). I agree, if I pay for 4 devices, I don't think Netflix should care where those devices log on from, this is to stop the accounts like my friend who borrows Netflix from another friend. In turn, she pays for HBO and shares that account (or something). It's not right, but thats the agreement they struck. In that case, both Netflix and HBO are down an account bc they are sharing it.I have not thought about when my kids are completely out of the house, would I cut them off? It's kind of like my sister who is on the family home plan with my parents for her cell phone. She's in her 40s and still on their plan. I have no idea if my parents pay for her or what financial arrangement they have made, if any. On TikTok, they are saying Netflix is different than other streaming platforms - they are all in debt, but most of the others have a parent to absorb the debt. Amazon Prime has a Amazon, Disney+ and Hulu have Disney (aka theme parks), etc. Netflix was the OG and does not have a parent company. This is all super interesting to me. If they are to cut my family's access, I could see us subscribing for a month or 2 to watch a show, like we do for Apple TV - watch Ted Lasso, and then we cancel. But if they made it super hard with passcodes and verification codes, I'd be frustrated and pissed and probably just cancel. Or in many cases, Netflix and HBO both got an account (shared) that they wouldn't have had at all if the two users couldn't share. Many people cannot afford all the streaming services, but if a group can reach an agreement to share, it might be worthwhile enough for someone to take the bait.
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Post by OntarioScrapper on Feb 8, 2023 17:16:07 GMT
There are so many different apps now. Netflix is feeling the pinch money wise. What I think they should do with their inhouse productions is have a plan. Got a new sci-fi show, then give it a 5 year plan and don't cancel it on a cliffhanger. People can get tired of their shows being canceled with no conclusion. Before it didn't matter so much but now there's lots more competition with streaming apps and more content is being locked to those new streaming apps. Netflix is losing already made content to those new streaming apps.
And I noticed Netflix doesn't have an annual plan that lets you save so you are paying cheaper that way. I have an annual plan for Disney Plus, BritBox, Acron and Crave. Netflix I pay monthly. I'm surprised that Netflix doesn't offer an annual plan.
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Post by OntarioScrapper on Feb 9, 2023 15:29:25 GMT
Well apparently, Canada is also getting this... All the people who use Netflix are in my house though. I can see how it could get frustrating for those that travel.
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Post by Tearisci on Feb 9, 2023 15:46:10 GMT
I'm on my DS's plan he also shares with his MIL and BIL. He says he'll drop us if this happens here but I think I'd willingly pay him the $2.99 or whatever the cost will be to stay on his plan as it would be much cheaper for me.
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Post by papersilly on Feb 9, 2023 19:04:29 GMT
230 million subscribers and 100 million of them share accounts (although they didn't say how the acocunts were share. just that they were shared). i can see why netflix is in a tizzy.
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