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Post by freecharlie on Mar 12, 2023 18:47:36 GMT
My asshole ex is pushing the sale (that isn't the issue). He thinks I should br available when he is, but doesn't make concessions to be available any other time.
So he threatens me with contempt for not having the house listed (ftr, I am not stalling, the ass just got his big stuff out a couple of weeks ago, still had shit here, and hasn't helped clear out the crap he doesn't want). His attorney screams about it being listed by tomorrow.
Fine. I schedule the realtor for today and Friday not ex-ass emails he can't male it, but that we need to go ahead with the appointment because this needs done ASAP
So again, I'm doing all the legwork on something I actually don't want.
He hasn't submitted the QDRO paperwork, paid the taxes and is late on child support.
This man is infuriating.
And I'm of two minds...high value to get a lot of $$$ or low enough I could buy it.
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Post by busy on Mar 12, 2023 18:53:11 GMT
My asshole ex is pushing the sale (that isn't the issue). He thinks I should br available when he is, but doesn't make concessions to be available any other time. So he threatens me with contempt for not having the house listed (ftr, I am not stalling, the ass just got his big stuff out a couple of weeks ago, still had shit here, and hasn't helped clear out the crap he doesn't want). His attorney screams about it being listed by tomorrow. Fine. I schedule the realtor for today and Friday not ex-ass emails he can't male it, but that we need to go ahead with the appointment because this needs done ASAP So again, I'm doing all the legwork on something I actually don't want. He hasn't submitted the QDRO paperwork, paid the taxes and is late on child support. This man is infuriating. And I'm of two minds...high value to get a lot of $$$ or low enough I could buy it. High value to get a lot of money, get out of there, and start fresh at a place that’s yours alone and not infused with memories of him. He’s a dick. Every thing like this you can get done - even without his cooperation - is that much less you need to interact with him.
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Post by hop2 on Mar 12, 2023 19:19:55 GMT
My ex took over 2 years to get my portion of the 401k transferred to me and the paper work had to be submitted twice. & mine is good at paperwork. & then was VERY angry he owed me the amount of what my percentage was at the divorce not a new lower amount ( same % of new lower balance ) if your divorce is written properly that is set no matter when he filled out the paperwork. 😂 Just keep on him.
Good luck with the sale of you’re home! I wish you Peace & stability going forward. Hugs.
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Post by mom on Mar 12, 2023 19:43:42 GMT
Definately try for high value. As long as you are in this home, he will feel like he has some control over you. Do what you need to do to get this shit show over with. It will probably work out better for you for him NOT to be there. If he is there he will only cause a scene and stress you out. Any questions he has he can direct them to the realtor.
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Post by freecharlie on Mar 12, 2023 20:08:22 GMT
Realtor just left. He is going to put me in touch with a mortgage guys he knows and trusts.
I'd really like to keep the house. It would be best for the kids and me but I also think it would irritate the hell out of the asshat.
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Post by chaosisapony on Mar 12, 2023 23:09:38 GMT
I know keeping the house was a huge concern of yours when shit hit the fan. I really hope you are able to work out a loan that allows you to do that. You've suffered enough without a forced move on top of everything else.
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Post by birukitty on Mar 12, 2023 23:16:09 GMT
I wouldn't recommend doing things just to irritate your ex. I get the temptation. I really do. But it won't serve you or your children the best in the long run. Do you both currently own the home?
I recommend taking a deep breath and putting your ex completely out of your mind. Focus on yourself and your kids-and your future with them alone. What does that future look like?
There's something to be said for starting fresh and moving to a new home that's yours alone. A fresh start. Have you considered looking at the current houses that are for sale just to get a feel for what's on the market? Maybe you will find something that's absolutely perfect for you and your children with no memories of your ex.
I'd meet with the mortgage guy and follow his advice. If the realtor says he/she thinks you can get X number of dollars for your house then list it for that price, not for a low price. Hopefully you'll have a great meeting with the mortgage guy and after that better knowledge on where to go from there.
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Post by Lexica on Mar 13, 2023 1:07:30 GMT
When I went through my divorce, we didn’t have a huge amount of equity in the home yet. Ex sent appraisers to evaluate everything in the house from the kitchen pots and pans to my son’s furniture. I told her several things were mine coming into the marriage - namely all of the antiques. They were the most valuable furniture items. We then had the house appraised. He thought I would forget the motor home, jet skis, and his race boat that he took when he moved out. We settled on a specific dollar amount that each would get if we sold everything and split the funds.
Once he agreed to that amount, my father wrote him a check for his half. He was livid. He didn’t want the money, he wanted control over me and had the settlement written up that my son and I would live in the house and he got a key to inspect it to make sure I was keeping it up. Then when my son turned 21, we would sell and split the equity.
Dad knew him too well and wanted him out of our lives. My attorney handed him the check and he threw it on the floor. He said he didn’t want it, he wanted half ownership and his key. Like I didn’t know that. It took me many many years to pay my father back, and when I made the final payment, I cried in my car in front of his bank where I had made a deposit of the final amount.
Is there any possible way you could qualify for a loan to buy him out? Or do you have a generous relative that would lend you the funds? I paid my father interest on the loan, against his wishes. I told him I needed to at least pay what he was making on it in his investment so that he didn’t lose money by helping me out.
I would love to see my ex’s face when he learns how much I just sold the house for all these many years later. It enabled me to pay off all my debts and buy this house outright. He is living in a rental with his current wife and her 5 kids. I doubt that he has much savings, if any. He could have taken that check from my father, invested it, and had a fortune by now. Instead, his wife blew it on clothes.
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Mar 13, 2023 2:00:57 GMT
If it were me, I'd find an excuse to cancel the appointment. If he can't be there to help get the house on the market, then off the market it stays. I wouldn't let him off the hook by taking on this responsibility, because no good deed goes unpunished, and he will find a way to blame you if the house doesn't sell as fast as he thinks it should or if he thinks the realtor's fee is too high, or the marketing plan isn't as good as it should be, or the pictures aren't good enough, etc.
This is also your leverage to get the things done that need to be done by him, such as setting up the QDRO, paying the taxes, and setting up autopay for the child support. Unless he does all of that, I would insist that he be there for the realtor meeting to get the house on the market.
Let his attorney scream if he wants. He just needs to know that two can play that game, and in this case, you are not the one dragging your feet about getting the house on the market. He is, if he isn't there tomorrow to meet with the realtor.
ETA: Nevermind. I just saw that you met with the realtor today. Best of luck with the sale!
Now give him a deadline on the things he hasn't done.
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Post by Lurkingpea on Mar 13, 2023 2:01:55 GMT
If it were me, I'd find an excuse to cancel the appointment. If he can't be there to help get the house on the market, then off the market it stays. I wouldn't let him off the hook by taking on this responsibility, because no good deed goes unpunished, and he will find a way to blame you if the house doesn't sell as fast as he thinks it should or if he thinks the realtor's fee is too high, or the marketing plan isn't as good as it should be, or the pictures aren't good enough, etc. This is also your leverage to get the things done that need to be done by him, such as setting up the QDRO, paying the taxes, and setting up autopay for the child support. Unless he does all of that, I would insist that he be there for the realtor meeting to get the house on the market. Let his attorney scream if he wants. He just needs to know that two can play that game, and in this case, you are not the one dragging your feet about getting the house on the market. He is, if he isn't there tomorrow to meet with the realtor. I agree if he can't be there why should you?
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Post by freecharlie on Mar 13, 2023 2:58:59 GMT
I wouldn't recommend doing things just to irritate your ex. I get the temptation. I really do. But it won't serve you or your children the best in the long run. Do you both currently own the home? I recommend taking a deep breath and putting your ex completely out of your mind. Focus on yourself and your kids-and your future with them alone. What does that future look like? There's something to be said for starting fresh and moving to a new home that's yours alone. A fresh start. Have you considered looking at the current houses that are for sale just to get a feel for what's on the market? Maybe you will find something that's absolutely perfect for you and your children with no memories of your ex. I'd meet with the mortgage guy and follow his advice. If the realtor says he/she thinks you can get X number of dollars for your house then list it for that price, not for a low price. Hopefully you'll have a great meeting with the mortgage guy and after that better knowledge on where to go from there. irritating the ex would just be sprinkles. I still love my house. It holds nothing negative for me. I don't know if it is my personality or what, but I honestly feel nothing doe or about the ex (except irritation when he does stupid shit or doesn't follow through. Most of the time I don't think of him at all. The house is big enough to have four adults living in it (plus a dog, cat, and ferret). It is 5 minutes from my work and in a perfect location. I put in a gas stove, fireplace, built ins, and an awesome closet. If we have to move, we have to move. I'll adjust and be fine. I'd just rather not.
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Post by freecharlie on Mar 13, 2023 3:01:52 GMT
When I went through my divorce, we didn’t have a huge amount of equity in the home yet. Ex sent appraisers to evaluate everything in the house from the kitchen pots and pans to my son’s furniture. I told her several things were mine coming into the marriage - namely all of the antiques. They were the most valuable furniture items. We then had the house appraised. He thought I would forget the motor home, jet skis, and his race boat that he took when he moved out. We settled on a specific dollar amount that each would get if we sold everything and split the funds. Once he agreed to that amount, my father wrote him a check for his half. He was livid. He didn’t want the money, he wanted control over me and had the settlement written up that my son and I would live in the house and he got a key to inspect it to make sure I was keeping it up. Then when my son turned 21, we would sell and split the equity. Dad knew him too well and wanted him out of our lives. My attorney handed him the check and he threw it on the floor. He said he didn’t want it, he wanted half ownership and his key. Like I didn’t know that. It took me many many years to pay my father back, and when I made the final payment, I cried in my car in front of his bank where I had made a deposit of the final amount. Is there any possible way you could qualify for a loan to buy him out? Or do you have a generous relative that would lend you the funds? I paid my father interest on the loan, against his wishes. I told him I needed to at least pay what he was making on it in his investment so that he didn’t lose money by helping me out. I would love to see my ex’s face when he learns how much I just sold the house for all these many years later. It enabled me to pay off all my debts and buy this house outright. He is living in a rental with his current wife and her 5 kids. I doubt that he has much savings, if any. He could have taken that check from my father me had a fortune by now. Instead, his wife blew it on clothes. My parents will help as much as they can. I don't want them to have to, but they will do their best. If I had the qdro money, I'd pay the taxes on it and just use it.
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Post by mollycoddle on Mar 13, 2023 10:12:57 GMT
If it were me, I'd find an excuse to cancel the appointment. If he can't be there to help get the house on the market, then off the market it stays. I wouldn't let him off the hook by taking on this responsibility, because no good deed goes unpunished, and he will find a way to blame you if the house doesn't sell as fast as he thinks it should or if he thinks the realtor's fee is too high, or the marketing plan isn't as good as it should be, or the pictures aren't good enough, etc. This is also your leverage to get the things done that need to be done by him, such as setting up the QDRO, paying the taxes, and setting up autopay for the child support. Unless he does all of that, I would insist that he be there for the realtor meeting to get the house on the market. Let his attorney scream if he wants. He just needs to know that two can play that game, and in this case, you are not the one dragging your feet about getting the house on the market. He is, if he isn't there tomorrow to meet with the realtor. I agree if he can't be there why should you? You can email him any information that the realtor gives you about fees, etc, and ask for his input. Putting it in writing should be enough, although you could always run it by your attorney. I know that you love the house, but wouldn’t you also like to be free of him?
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Post by littlemama on Mar 13, 2023 14:24:53 GMT
In my state, child support is withheld by the employer, who sends it to the state. The state then disburses it to the recipient. It stops the sort of fuckery you are dealing with.
Can you call the Child Support agency in your state and let them know he isnt paying? Id also look into deadlines for the QDRO. He is going to delay that for as long as possible.
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Post by peace on Mar 13, 2023 14:31:38 GMT
I will just share this little thing that may or may not apply- my ex was married before me and when he got divorced, selling their marital home was part of the deal because they couldn't agree on aa value. He had is appraised and she had a realtor look at it. Her evaluation was much lower than his. She was also getting all of the cash in the retirement - she was dragging her feet to sell but she hadn't pressed him on the retirement. Once she pressed- he forced her to sell. She went with the selling price of what the appraiser said it was worth- she didn't think it would ever sell at that price. It sold SO fast (hours) and she didn't have a plan. I'm sorry ex is being an ass. But I am so glad he's your ex Do you want the house?? I understand the security staying offers but so you think you'd like to get as much profit as possible and then buy a new home with NO memories of him? I know everyone is different so maybe it's not a thing for you.
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Post by scrapmaven on Mar 13, 2023 15:18:23 GMT
You said that asshat's lawyer is yelling about this? To whom? To ex? Bite me, if that's the case. Your dh is late on his obligations. What does your lawyer say about that? I know that you want to save money and probably don't want to involve your lawyer unless necessary, but you might have to at some point.
Clearly, your ex is flat broke and needs the money from the house. Odds are that his happy homewrecker isn't so happy. She's likely nagging him to get the money. Too bad. So sad. Don't let him push you. Call the mortgage guy that your realtor recommnded and start there. Your dh can't stop you from buying your house, though he might try, just cause he's an asshole, but you are allowed to buy your home. In that case you want the lowest price possible. Can you deduct the money he owes you from the payment to dh for his half? That would make it even better.
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Post by birukitty on Mar 13, 2023 18:59:30 GMT
I wouldn't recommend doing things just to irritate your ex. I get the temptation. I really do. But it won't serve you or your children the best in the long run. Do you both currently own the home? I recommend taking a deep breath and putting your ex completely out of your mind. Focus on yourself and your kids-and your future with them alone. What does that future look like? There's something to be said for starting fresh and moving to a new home that's yours alone. A fresh start. Have you considered looking at the current houses that are for sale just to get a feel for what's on the market? Maybe you will find something that's absolutely perfect for you and your children with no memories of your ex. I'd meet with the mortgage guy and follow his advice. If the realtor says he/she thinks you can get X number of dollars for your house then list it for that price, not for a low price. Hopefully you'll have a great meeting with the mortgage guy and after that better knowledge on where to go from there. irritating the ex would just be sprinkles. I still love my house. It holds nothing negative for me. I don't know if it is my personality or what, but I honestly feel nothing doe or about the ex (except irritation when he does stupid shit or doesn't follow through. Most of the time I don't think of him at all. The house is big enough to have four adults living in it (plus a dog, cat, and ferret). It is 5 minutes from my work and in a perfect location. I put in a gas stove, fireplace, built ins, and an awesome closet. If we have to move, we have to move. I'll adjust and be fine. I'd just rather not. Well in that case forget everything I wrote. I was writing with the wrong assumption. Since your house holds no negative feelings for you I'd do everything I can to hold on to it. Plus I'd check in with your lawyer-make sure putting the house on the market at this time is the right move for you. Who cares what's right for your ex and what his lawyer wants.
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Post by Rhondito on Mar 13, 2023 19:31:29 GMT
He hasn't submitted the QDRO paperwork, paid the taxes and is late on child support. Does this make him in contempt?
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Post by freecharlie on Mar 13, 2023 23:38:52 GMT
He hasn't submitted the QDRO paperwork, paid the taxes and is late on child support. Does this make him in contempt? yes, but I'm not pushing it
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Post by Lurkingpea on Mar 14, 2023 0:17:43 GMT
Does this make him in contempt? yes, but I'm not pushing it Just curious. Why not? After all he has done. This is money that goes towards your kids.
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Post by Rhondito on Mar 14, 2023 15:12:10 GMT
yes, but I'm not pushing it Just curious. Why not? After all he has done. This is money that goes towards your kids. I'm curious too. He threatens you with contempt, but you seem to let him still pull the strings and direct everything the way he wants.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Mar 14, 2023 16:39:34 GMT
Just curious. Why not? After all he has done. This is money that goes towards your kids. I'm curious too. He threatens you with contempt, but you seem to let him still pull the strings and direct everything the way he wants. I hope things go your way, in regards to you retaining your home. I too am wondering why, you are being lenient in regards to the child support. It is court ordered. File the paperwork to have it garnished or auto payed. He's already proven his asshole behavior. If you let it slide this time, he will think he can get away with it every time. Stop being nice. He owes it, make the collection happen!
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Post by Why on Mar 14, 2023 16:52:03 GMT
I'm wondering if you are holding back making a big deal about what he owes so that maybe if you buy the house you will owe him that much less. You should be able to get credit for what he owes you and that might be a tipping point that would make him go for you buying the house. The longer it goes on the more he will owe and he might want to get out from under that big debt. Just a thought that came to me
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Post by pinklady on Mar 14, 2023 18:10:14 GMT
Just curious. Why not? After all he has done. This is money that goes towards your kids. I'm curious too. He threatens you with contempt, but you seem to let him still pull the strings and direct everything the way he wants. From all the posts I've read, I'm guessing she likes the drama. This could have been settled a long time ago but instead there's always some drama filled post.
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Post by mcjunkin on Mar 14, 2023 18:20:28 GMT
Wow.
Hateful.
If I wanted to buy my ex husband out and get my house, I would probably do my best to not piss him off either. That is not dramatic. Geez...........
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Post by luckyexwife on Mar 14, 2023 18:20:44 GMT
I'm curious too. He threatens you with contempt, but you seem to let him still pull the strings and direct everything the way he wants. From all the posts I've read, I'm guessing she likes the drama. This could have been settled a long time ago but instead there's always some drama filled post. I think it's her ex that likes the drama.
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Post by christine58 on Mar 18, 2023 13:26:34 GMT
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Post by freecharlie on Mar 18, 2023 15:17:49 GMT
He came, shook his head at all the stuff left behind by xh and then emailed us a couple of comps. I gave xh dates to come clean his crap out, he of course us not available this weekend, so I finally just told him a time next weekend (he won't do it m-f). And so the circle will start again.
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Post by christine58 on Mar 18, 2023 15:29:36 GMT
He came, shook his head at all the stuff left behind by xh and then emailed us a couple of comps. I gave xh dates to come clean his crap out, he of course us not available this weekend, so I finally just told him a time next weekend (he won't do it m-f). And so the circle will start again. Damn him.
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