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Post by freecharlie on Mar 28, 2023 16:45:33 GMT
How do you get past the "it's still good" and "I might need it someday" mindset.
I've read Peter Walsh's books and they make total sense, but once I put the book down...
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Post by flanz on Mar 28, 2023 16:51:14 GMT
Me too! Same boat....
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Post by Lurkingpea on Mar 28, 2023 16:52:33 GMT
Donate to a worthy charity. We have a local charity that helps woman from DV situations. I donate clothes. Kitchen stuff. Furniture. Knowing it helps other women makes it easier. Especially women trying to start over.
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Post by Lurkingpea on Mar 28, 2023 16:53:26 GMT
I might need it someday .. if that is the issue I remind myself I can buy it again if that is truly the case.
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Post by roundtwo on Mar 28, 2023 16:56:12 GMT
If anyone has the secret, I hope they share, lol.
I keep walking into my craft supply room to do this very thing. It turns out that every dried flower, every candle stick holder and every glass jar are essentials I will need in the future.
And note that I said craft supply room - I have a completely different room that I actually use when I am creating. To be fair, the room is just one side of the laundry room, okay three sides, but still...
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Post by snyder on Mar 28, 2023 17:03:47 GMT
So very difficult. I'm sentimental and people over the years have given me things that I just can't part with. But, I'm starting to find good homes with some of the items with my nieces and nephews. So that is a start.
I think it might be a wee bit easier with me as I'm older than you, but if I haven't used in it 5 years, what are the chances of me using it again, so I'm doing better in the let go of stuff that I might use. Usualy someone else has it and if I really needed the item, I could probably borrow it.
When I retired, I did a pretty big purge because while working I never had time to really clear out cupboards, closets, drawers etc. Then about 5 years ago I did another smaller purge. I am currently starting a new purge. This one I feel will be a big one. I need to get rid of my junk that I know my son would not want me to pass on to or leave him to deal with it.
I think with age, it gets easier, so you might still struggle with it since you are still fairly young and have boys that "just may" need that. lol Good Luck!
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Post by papersilly on Mar 28, 2023 17:05:21 GMT
If anyone has the secret, I hope they share, lol. I keep walking into my craft supply room to do this very thing. It turns out that every dried flower, every candle stick holder and every glass jar are essentials I will need in the future. And note that I said craft supply room - I have a completely different room that I actually use when I am creating. To be fair, the room is just one side of the laundry room, okay three sides, but still... the hardest room for me is the craft too. so...much...stuff. some stuff is project specific and i have them even though i don't work on those kinds of projects anymore. i think it's because we tend to place value on stuff no matter how unrealistic or unnecessary that value is. we (and by we, i mean i) everything is hard earned so everything has worth. it's a twisted thought process, i know.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Mar 28, 2023 17:09:24 GMT
I might need it someday .. if that is the issue I remind myself I can buy it again if that is truly the case. This is the first step. The other thing that helps is to remember that the space I'm freeing up is more valuable to me than the old stuff. You have to set your priorities - space or stuff.
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Post by busy on Mar 28, 2023 17:25:39 GMT
I might need it someday .. if that is the issue I remind myself I can buy it again if that is truly the case. This is the first step. The other thing that helps is to remember that the space I'm freeing up is more valuable to me than the old stuff. You have to set your priorities - space or stuff. Strongly agree with this. You have to decide why you are decluttering and use that as your North Star. If you don't have a reason to do this that means something to you, you're not going to be successful. Having a bunch of extra stuff in my life creates more mental load for me, more things to do to maintain all that stuff, and so on. I DO NOT WANT THAT. Knowing that keeping my possessions streamlined allows me to be less stressed makes those decisions of keep or not EASY. Your reason for reducing your possessions is likely different, but if you have a reason that's meaningful to you, keep turning to that. "Is this thing worth more to me than [fill in your reason for doing this]?" The answer should be obvious to you either way.
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Post by Linda on Mar 28, 2023 17:28:10 GMT
come join us on the decluttering thread - I find that encouragement helps and so does hearing what other people are doing.
I've been actively decluttering for a little over a decade now. And I think that's the first lesson - it's not a once and done process, you have to maintain it AND every time you go back through the stuff, there's more that you'll be willing to let go.
If you haven't read Decluttering at the Speed of Life by Dana K White - I reccommend it. My biggest take away from it was containers - deciding that x type of item will live in this specific spot and only keeping what fits there. So if you have a bookcase or bookcases - put all your books there...if you have more books than fit, then get rid of your least favourite, duplicates, already read and won't read again, no longer want to read etc...until they all fit the container (bookcase(s)). Then if you find or want to get more books, you have to get rid of others in order for them to fit.
She also has a good process for NOT making a huge mess as you go - which may or may not be important to you.
"I might need this someday" - will you be able to find it 'someday' or will you just find it easier to buy a new one or use something else? If it's easy and inexpensive to replace - let the stores store for you.
If its sentimental - can you take a photo and do a scrapbook page about it? and then maybe let it go? to a family member or someone who can use it and appreciate it? If it's something that you want to keep - find a place for it - put it on display not in a box.
Don't save stuff for 'special' or 'good' or ... use the stuff....light the pretty candle, set the table with the good dishes, wear the pretty nightgown, use the nice things- you deserve them.
You can do this!
editing - also remember that you've already spent the money on the things - that's a sunk cost. So 'it was expensive' or 'I feel guilty that I never got around to (this project/book/etc...)' and so on - it's okay to say, I got my pleasure out of buying it but it's time for it to leave.
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Post by ntsf on Mar 28, 2023 17:34:19 GMT
after cleaning out a few relatives. homes.. dealing with 30--70 yrs of stuff to hold onto.. it is easier to get rid of mine own. do my kids, do any relatives want to deal with this? will I be happy with fewer things in that space? I am also lucky that I only have two hobbies.. and refuse to collect "things" on trips, etc. the only indulgence is art. and we are reaching our max on that.
don't think about how much you paid for something. it is either useful or not.
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Post by Basket1lady on Mar 28, 2023 17:42:26 GMT
I hate clutter and I hate getting rid of stuff that I may need again.
My solution is to designate a space for said item(s). Take sheets—I need a set for each bed, but sometimes it’s good to have two sets, plus I have flannel sets for many of the beds. I have a drawer where I keep them. When the drawer is full, I purge sets. I do this with towels, winter gear, craft supplies, etc. And the container can be a closet, cabinet, drawer, bin, etc. So I’m “allowed” to keep the items as long as it fits in the space.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Mar 28, 2023 17:57:16 GMT
don't think about how much you paid for something. it is either useful or not. Agreed. That money is long gone and you either got joy from the item or you didn't. You either keep something because you are actively using it or it has strong sentimental meaning. There is no room in decluttering/purging a home for "I may need it someday" or "just in case".
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Post by pjaye on Mar 28, 2023 18:14:51 GMT
You have to want free space more than you want the stuff/clutter. The point isn't if it's still good or if you might use it - the point is...if you don't have enough space to keep it then you have to get rid of it.
To not have clutter, every item needs to be stored somewhere...when you run out of storage room then you HAVE to get rid of all things that don't fit into the space you have available. For example if you only have enough space to put away 10 pairs of shoes...then you can't have 12 pairs. 2 need to go. It doesn't matter that those 2 pairs are still good/wearable...if you can't put them away, then they become clutter. You don't want to live in clutter - so you need to let them go.
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Post by Tearisci on Mar 28, 2023 18:48:29 GMT
I'm very anti-clutter in my house but my garage is just so cluttered! There's room to fit my car in, but there's so much other stuff.
I have boxes that I hauled down 5 years ago from my storage unit with my Ex and he didn't want anything so they all came my way. Since I hate clutter in the house, I've just left the stuff in boxes because I don't want to bring more into my place. Every weekend I say I'm going to tackle the garage and I don't do it because it seems so overwhelming. It's going to get hot soon in Tx and I know I won't do it then so another year will pass by with a very cluttered garage. Ugh.
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Post by finaledition on Mar 28, 2023 18:57:25 GMT
Do you have a FB local give and receive sight? For items that I know I don’t want/need/use but still seem to be hanging on to, I list the item there. There’s something about giving it to someone local who truly wants it that makes it so much easier to part with.
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Post by busy on Mar 28, 2023 18:58:32 GMT
I'm very anti-clutter in my house but my garage is just so cluttered! There's room to fit my car in, but there's so much other stuff. I have boxes that I hauled down 5 years ago from my storage unit with my Ex and he didn't want anything so they all came my way. Since I hate clutter in the house, I've just left the stuff in boxes because I don't want to bring more into my place. Every weekend I say I'm going to tackle the garage and I don't do it because it seems so overwhelming. It's going to get hot soon in Tx and I know I won't do it then so another year will pass by with a very cluttered garage. Ugh. In all seriousness, if those boxes were in storage - meaning they don't contain anything that is used regularly - and your ex didn't want them, why are you holding on to them? Just take them all, as-is, and donate them. Easy peasy.
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Post by Tearisci on Mar 28, 2023 23:08:28 GMT
I'm very anti-clutter in my house but my garage is just so cluttered! There's room to fit my car in, but there's so much other stuff. I have boxes that I hauled down 5 years ago from my storage unit with my Ex and he didn't want anything so they all came my way. Since I hate clutter in the house, I've just left the stuff in boxes because I don't want to bring more into my place. Every weekend I say I'm going to tackle the garage and I don't do it because it seems so overwhelming. It's going to get hot soon in Tx and I know I won't do it then so another year will pass by with a very cluttered garage. Ugh. In all seriousness, if those boxes were in storage - meaning they don't contain anything that is used regularly - and your ex didn't want them, why are you holding on to them? Just take them all, as-is, and donate them. Easy peasy. There are some things I want in the boxes like expensive purses that I'm going to sell and some china that was hand painted and handed down. I just don't have any place to put it in my house. I really just need to do it but I end up putting it off every year!
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Post by RosieKat on Mar 28, 2023 23:21:23 GMT
I use the Covid lock down as a gauge. Did I ever use it during that roughly year of tons of idle time? Have I used it since?
It's worked well to help determine if I should let stuff go. Now if I just had more time to work on that!
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Post by katlady on Mar 28, 2023 23:53:03 GMT
Whenever I go on vacation, as I sit in a nice decluttered hotel room, I think to myself, I can declutter when I get home. I don't need all that stuff to be happy or fulfilled. Then, when I get home ... my tune changes. Like others here, the craft/art stuff is the hardest for me to deal with. I've been able to pare some of it down. I know I don't scrapbook anymore, I just have projects I want to finish. I kept things for those projects and got rid of everything else. Of course, I probably still kept too much, and I still haven't finished those projects. I prioritized what art I like to do, and kept those things and donated stuff further down my list. Clothing and house stuff is pretty easy for me to let go off. Oh, and books ... I feel like those are so "precious", especially older ones that are out of print. I have a really hard time letting books go.
I can't think of the term now, but I've heard someone describe the things you hold on to for your "fantasy" life. Like, you want to someday be the hostess that has all the holiday parties at your house, and you have all these dishes and decorations, but you live in a tiny home that can't hold that many people. But, someday, you'll have those parties so you keep all the stuff. Or you want to be a full-time quilter, so you have tons and tons of fabric, but you don't even have time to start any projects. That is the type of clutter that you really have to think hard about releasing to someone else. Will you ever truly live that life you fantasize about.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Mar 29, 2023 0:04:26 GMT
100% what Linda and pjaye have said. I just got done reading all three of the books by Dana K. White and they’re great. (FWIW, all three books basically have the same message, so read whichever one you can get your hands on.) Her container concept and her two decluttering questions really resonated with me. (First question is, where would I look for this item *first*? Then put it there immediately. If you don’t have an answer to the first question, the second question is, if I needed this item would I know I already have one? If the answer is no, it can be donated or tossed without guilt because you wouldn’t even know you had one to begin looking for it.) I had to LOL just a little watching that video with the pens because I totally have a problem with pens. My answer would probably be to get another jar, and then I’d have to think of something else I like less to get rid of.
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Post by dewryce on Mar 29, 2023 0:18:23 GMT
I really connected with Peter’s way of thinking, and made tons of notes in the margins the first time I went through it. I still add them but it’s less frequent I’ve read his first one so many times. One of the things I include is items to get rid of that come to mind as I read a particular passage, and often why. You could decide to get rid of things as they occur to you, maybe each chapter or a certain number of items. And it’s super important that the items leave the house immediately. Trash out that night. Items to donate in a reasonable size box which goes to your car as soon as it’s full. And after you get started and you start seeing/living with the results it will really motivate you. I can't think of the term now, but I've heard someone describe the things you hold on to for your "fantasy" life. Like, you want to someday be the hostess that has all the holiday parties at your house, and you have all these dishes and decorations, but you live in a tiny home that can't hold that many people. But, someday, you'll have those parties so you keep all the stuff. Or you want to be a full-time quilter, so you have tons and tons of fabric, but you don't even have time to start any projects. That is the type of clutter that you really have to think hard about releasing to someone else. Will you ever truly live that life you fantasize about.And even if you do, by that time will you still love the style/function of what you’re holding onto. This was a hard area for me because it’s hard admitting that your life didn’t turn out like you wanted and there are dreams you have to let go of. But once I did that, it was so freeing and I really felt like a mental weight was lifted.
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Post by Linda on Mar 29, 2023 0:23:54 GMT
I can't think of the term now, but I've heard someone describe the things you hold on to for your "fantasy" life. Like, you want to someday be the hostess that has all the holiday parties at your house, and you have all these dishes and decorations, but you live in a tiny home that can't hold that many people. But, someday, you'll have those parties so you keep all the stuff. Or you want to be a full-time quilter, so you have tons and tons of fabric, but you don't even have time to start any projects. That is the type of clutter that you really have to think hard about releasing to someone else. Will you ever truly live that life you fantasize about. I totally have stuff for the life I wish I had...I'm working on using some of that stuff....I don't really entertain but I do use the good dishes reasonably regularly for instance - but I'm also working on releasing some of those expectations/fantasies and letting go of the stuff along with it. But yeah, it's hard. Kind of like when I finally accepted that our family was complete and decluttered the majority of the baby things.
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Post by Linda on Mar 29, 2023 0:28:36 GMT
I had to LOL just a little watching that video with the pens because I totally have a problem with pens. My answer would probably be to get another jar, and then I’d have to think of something else I like less to get rid of. I laughed also as I looked around my craft room and realise that there are pens on each of the three desks (sewing, computer, scrapbook) but each is in a container and I have weeded them down to ones I actually like and use....no more generic pens with someone's logo on them - and each desk has a different mix of pens - the sewing desk has my sharpies and highlighters; the computer desk has my writing pens; and the scrapbook desk has my journalling pens and ONE writing pen. But I don't have loose pens elsewhere in the house (except one sharpie in the kitchen that is used in the kitchen)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2023 0:42:58 GMT
What's still good? A shirt that you haven't worn in a year? Or a kitchen utensil that doesn't get used often? Is it a decoration? How easily could you buy another one of you donated it?
Clothes that haven't been worn in a year get folded up and donated. Kitchen items that haven't been used in two years are donated. Decorations get reevaluated here and there. I ask myself how easily could something be bought if I needed or wanted it again. Books are donated regularly because they're always available at the library or thrift store.
Now I need to give the same harsh requirements to my growing stash of yarn. Problem with picking it up again is that I overestimate my actual speed and time and now have too much yarn.
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Post by hennybutton on Mar 29, 2023 0:55:37 GMT
The container method has been mentioned a couple of times. It's useful for stuff you keep buying but don't have room for. I'm still trying to get DH onboard for cleaning supplies.
Swedish Death Cleaning is another approach. It sounds morbid, but it's not. Basically, you look at your stuff as if you are your kids trying to go through it after you're gone. Would you want to deal with the stuff? You keep stuff that's meaningful and/or useful to you. Get rid of anything you'd be embarrassed to have people find.
I'm trying to whittle down my stuff and these two methods seem to work for me.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Mar 29, 2023 1:04:35 GMT
I have the same issues at times. I like to watch/listen to YouTube videos on cleaning, decluttering and sometimes minimalism when I am cleaning and decluttering. It keeps me motivated to keep going.
One of the messages that has been resonating with me lately is that having a less cluttered home is worth more to me than keeping that item. The peace that I will feel when that drawer/closet/room is "free" will be worth it.
Some people say that if something is worth less than a certain dollar amount, like $20 or so, that it is better to let it go.
Another question to ask yourself is "If I needed this, would I know I had it and would I know where to find it?" If the answer is no, let it go.
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Post by 950nancy on Mar 29, 2023 1:09:04 GMT
Give yourself an allotted space for your stuff. When you reach capacity, it goes. I also will put stuff I think I might want later in a box and date the box. If I don't go get it in that 6 months, it goes to Goodwill.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Mar 29, 2023 1:09:39 GMT
What's still good? A shirt that you haven't worn in a year? Or a kitchen utensil that doesn't get used often? Is it a decoration? How easily could you buy another one of you donated it? Clothes that haven't been worn in a year get folded up and donated. Kitchen items that haven't been used in two years are donated. Decorations get reevaluated here and there. I ask myself how easily could something be bought if I needed or wanted it again. Books are donated regularly because they're always available at the library or thrift store. Now I need to give the same harsh requirements to my growing stash of yarn. Problem with picking it up again is that I overestimate my actual speed and time and now have too much yarn. I can’t use the “is it still good” excuse because something can still be perfectly good but not useful TO ME. A good example is the character themed party decorations that I unearthed when I was cleaning out my basement. They were used once, carefully disassembled and put away so someone could absolutely use them again, it just won’t be me. So those are items that I really need to post on our local Buy Nothing group so they can bring joy to another person’s birthday kid. I’ve really derived a good amount of satisfaction from giving things to people on that group who are genuinely excited to get them and who will use them again.
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Post by scrappinghappy on Mar 29, 2023 1:22:39 GMT
I use the rule - if it costs less than $20 and can be replaced in less than 3 days - out!
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