RosieKat
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Post by RosieKat on Apr 19, 2023 17:22:01 GMT
I'm curious as to what the going "rates" are for various carpool situations for high schoolers in your area. DD has offended some people by refusing their money, so here's what we're thinking in various situations if payment is offered and insisted upon. FYI, none of these are situations where someone NEEDS the ride or can't afford to contribute. If it's relevant, we pay for DD's gas and insurance as she's in high school.
Picking up a friend on the way to school and taking her to school with her every day, bringing her home most days. Friend is less than a quarter mile out of the way and is a friend, not just acquaintance - Let friend buy DD a boba tea every once in a while.
Giving a friend or teammate a ride to a practice that is about 10 miles away. Going to friend's house does take DD several minutes out of her way, but doesn't happen more than about every 2 or 3 weeks - nothing, or if friend insists, a boba every few months.
Giving a teammate that isn't a particular friend a ride to a tournament up to 150-200 miles away - Let friend buy a fast food lunch or something. (This would usually involve me or DH driving, for the record, but they see it as DD driving, lol.)
What do you guys think? Again, we don't really care, this is for the people who take it personally if DD refuses the money.
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Post by Basket1lady on Apr 19, 2023 17:34:35 GMT
For the good friend—a tea is a good choice. For a teammate, I’d say the same thing. If they insist, ask for $1 or $2. For the tournament, I’d push the “my parents are driving”.
I used to work with teens at the high school theatre. The number of parents who left it up to their kids to “find a ride home” was astonishing.
I’d also set up some parameters for your DD as to how many kids she gives a ride to. A car load of teens has the potential for a lot of distractions, which a new driver doesn’t need. For the first 6 months of holding a license, the kids weren’t allowed any passengers other than a sibling. Then they were allowed one friend. I didn’t want my kid to become the neighborhood bus and I most importantly didn’t want the potential for problems with 4 or 5 teens in a car (the kids drove my old van).
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Post by Darcy Collins on Apr 19, 2023 17:35:14 GMT
My kids pretty much just had friends buy gas. So for the tournament especially, they'd accept someone pitching in - the friends are a bit different and they'd just insist once in a while of filling up the tank and thety'd let them.
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pilcas
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Post by pilcas on Apr 19, 2023 18:21:08 GMT
I think a friend who is getting a ride should contribute a little more than a tea once in a while. She is saving gas or bus fare regularly.
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Post by liya on Apr 19, 2023 18:55:45 GMT
I agree with you and think the occassional tea sounds reasonalble. When my kids were in high school I paid for their gas and insurance too and never expected their friends to pay them for rides. I am not sure if they were ever given any gas money or anything else because it was not asked for.
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Post by belgravia on Apr 19, 2023 19:06:45 GMT
The only time my daughter ever took money from her friends for gas was when they did road trips. She would usually drive because her SUV has the most seating and everyone would chip in for gas. She was never in a carpool situation because her friends all have their own cars. We pay for gas, insurance etc as she is a student.
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RosieKat
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Post by RosieKat on Apr 19, 2023 20:41:10 GMT
I’d also set up some parameters for your DD as to how many kids she gives a ride to. A car load of teens has the potential for a lot of distractions, which a new driver doesn’t need. I completely agree - luckily the law here only allows one (unrelated) passenger if the driver is under the age of 18. Also luckily, her good friend was ticketed for having 2 passengers, so it's reinforced in her head. She's very much the "good girl" so I'm not too worried about her breaking this. (No, I know she isn't perfect, and I know peer pressure is very real. I have confidence, but not absolute foresight. )
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Post by Basket1lady on Apr 19, 2023 21:01:25 GMT
I’d also set up some parameters for your DD as to how many kids she gives a ride to. A car load of teens has the potential for a lot of distractions, which a new driver doesn’t need. I completely agree - luckily the law here only allows one (unrelated) passenger if the driver is under the age of 18. Also luckily, her good friend was ticketed for having 2 passengers, so it's reinforced in her head. She's very much the "good girl" so I'm not too worried about her breaking this. (No, I know she isn't perfect, and I know peer pressure is very real. I have confidence, but not absolute foresight. ) That's great that she's so trustworthy! Virginia has similar laws and I just told her that if she was caught and lost her insurance, she'd have to pay to find other insurance. I was pretty confident that DD kept to the rules because one time she called for permission to take another friend home. She was in college by then and didn't remember that my rules only applied for the first year. She was one of the youngest in her class and graduated a few weeks after she turned 18.
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Post by chaosisapony on Apr 20, 2023 1:19:33 GMT
Those sound reasonable to me. I think it's pretty cool that the teenagers want to contribute and help pay their way.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Apr 20, 2023 4:06:21 GMT
I think for the one kid getting a ride every single day, I would accept gas money for that even though she’s a friend. Gas isn’t cheap, and it’s not the only expense that goes along with driving a car. There’s also insurance, tires, regular oil changes, air filters, etc. If it was just the occasional ride, then a tea or fast food lunch now and then would be acceptable.
For a long trip, my friends and I always split the gas as evenly as possible. The vehicle owner would start out the trip with the gas tank topped off, and then we would take turns paying to fill up. I would feel guilty not contributing toward paying my own way.
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Post by littlemama on Apr 20, 2023 10:52:45 GMT
For running around town to places the driver is going anyway, the occasional drink or snack is fine. For longer trips, a little money towards gas is appropriate. Last time ds drove 2 friends to a city 5 hours away and back, each friend bought a tank of gas
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