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Post by Lexica on May 29, 2023 15:06:40 GMT
I signed up for audible a few weeks ago so that I could listen to books while I unpack the 2.6 million boxes from my move. I also might listen to a book while grocery shopping or doing yard work. I started listening to Spare as one of my two included book choices.
First, I need to say that I am not extremely knowledgeable about the royals. And I certainly didn’t hate Prince Harry like so many people seem to do for him leaving England or marrying an American or whatever reason people have for the strong dislike.
I was curious and I love a good English accent (my grandparents were born in England and the accent reminds me of them) and since Harry himself reads the book, I went ahead and got it. I am about half way through it so far and although I didn’t have a strong opinion of Prince Harry one way or the other, I am certainly seeing him in a different light after hearing just half of the book so far.
Is anyone else reading this?
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peabay
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Post by peabay on May 29, 2023 15:31:11 GMT
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Post by tampascrapper on May 29, 2023 15:46:43 GMT
I read it and like it. I like Harry and have a lot of empathy for what he’s been through.
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mamapeaah
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Post by mamapeaah on May 29, 2023 16:26:59 GMT
I hope Harry gets it together. I didn't read the book but I read lots of excerpts and I just can't get over the frozen todger and him talking about how some older women took his virginity outside of a pub like a stallion. It is such an awful and callous way to describe the woman, who by the way, came forward afterwards.
He comes across as very spoiled and selfish.
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Post by tallgirl on May 29, 2023 16:53:16 GMT
I originally loved Harry, and Meghan, but I’ve definitely soured on them over the last few years. I am listening to this audiobook right now too and I will say I am enjoying it. I’m at the part where he and Meghan are dating and it’s just broken in the press.
I am taking it with a grain of salt and don’t believe everything he’s written, but it’s interesting. Also gives some good insight into how the family relationship has evolved as it has.
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Post by Lexica on May 29, 2023 17:07:03 GMT
I hope Harry gets it together. I didn't read the book but I read lots of excerpts and I just can't get over the frozen todger and him talking about how some older women took his virginity outside of a pub like a stallion. It is such an awful and callous way to describe the woman, who by the way, came forward afterwards. He comes across as very spoiled and selfish. The frozen todger part didn’t bother me at all. It would have never occurred to me that it can happen, so maybe his talking about it will prevent it happening to others. The virginity loss - I can’t remember him saying anything crass about her - I’ll have to listen to that part again. I vaguely remember that part of the book was playing when the groomer was bringing my pup up the walkway and I couldn’t get the earphones to turn off so I missed a bit in there. As for being spoiled, I think his mother did try to help them be normal. But the boys are royals, so yeah, probably being spoiled comes with the territory. It sounds to me as if everything really hit the skids for him when his mother died. The public being overly involved with her death and asking him constant questions and his family not discussing it at all really couldn’t have been healthy for either son. They should have been in counseling afterwards. I remember feeling so horrified watching them walking behind her casket in front of the world. The British are not known for great displays of emotion. My grandparents were both born in England and were very reserved emotionally. They raised my mom in Canada, but she was extremely reserved as well. And here I am, I feel my feelings and I wanted to talk about those feelings with my mom and she couldn’t handle it. She and I were such different people.
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christinec68
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Post by christinec68 on May 29, 2023 17:18:57 GMT
I listened to it a while back and I mostly consider it 16 hours of my life I won’t get back. They could have saved an hour if he didn’t have to introduce 200+ chapters.
I thought it was poorly edited and he got lost in the weeds a bit with the details. The chapters sometimes ended at weird spots and there was so much nonsense and whining. He included that time William accused him of snoring…oh my goodness the travesty!!! 🙄 It felt like a book of ways people wronged him or slighted him in some ways.
I found the chapters on his military training and work in Africa interesting. The parts about poaching made me cry.
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Post by gar on May 29, 2023 18:46:35 GMT
It would have never occurred to me that it can happen, so maybe his talking about it will prevent it happening to others.
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Post by chaosisapony on May 29, 2023 19:01:24 GMT
I read it a while back. I'm like you, OP, I don't really follow the royals and I don't have as much hate for Harry as a lot of people on the board seem to. I read it because I thought it might be interesting to peer behind the curtain if you will. I did enjoy some portions of the book like his time in the military and the little interesting things that went on at his fancy boarding school. I remember one part where it's mentioned that the staff actually measured with tape measures the distance between the plates at the Queen's dinner table. That's the kind of stuff I wanted to read about!
I am the same age as Harry and my dad died one month earlier than his mom so I do have a lot of empathy for him on that end. Some of the things he wrote about regarding his grief really hit me because I could have written those passages myself. I experienced the exact same emotions and my mind processed the grief in the same way.
Reading about him losing his virginity didn't have much impact on me. You're reading about him growing up so it didn't shock me that he would mention it and I don't remember him speaking badly of the woman. The frozen todger part was a little cringe and a little funny all at the same time. It reminded me of a story a coworker might tell me about after going on vacation and something happened to their bits. I dunno, it just didn't seem all that inspiring of shock and horror like I felt I was supposed to feel after reading about people's reactions to it.
Overall I felt the book needed editing and was pretty dull. I didn't pay the $14.99 for it and I would recommend others don't pay for it either.
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Post by Lexica on May 29, 2023 20:03:46 GMT
It would have never occurred to me that it can happen, so maybe his talking about it will prevent it happening to others. I’m a “glass half full” kinda woman looking for a bright side here. Work with me.🥴
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Post by roundtwo on May 29, 2023 20:07:03 GMT
I tried reading the book but just couldn't get through it. I don't hate Harry and Megan but I certainly don't trust them. I think they are incredibly self-absorbed and far too often they speak before they think.
For instance, Harry, finally, two years after he made the accusation, confirmed that he doesn't think the royal family is racist simply because someone wondered what Archie would look like.
And the furor over the royal titles - they knew all along that it was nothing to do with Megan; it was protocol, in place for over a century. And if being part of the family causes them so much grief why the heck do they keep using those titles?
I think losing a parent when you are a child is incredibly difficult. I just wonder why people keep excusing his poor choices because he lost his mom as a teenager. William was also just a teen but the response has been quite different.
The phrase "an heir and a spare" has been around for centuries; to pretend otherwise is just an attempt to stir up controversy. Princess Anne and Prince Edward (we are going to ignore Andrew...) have lived as 'spares' their entire lives and have managed to create a purposeful and lasting legacy of public serivice, mostly out of the public eye.
Harry could do the same but he seems to enjoy the limelight, which is fine and his choice to make. I just tire of the constant "leave me alone/look at me" game he and Megan play.
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Post by smasonnc on May 29, 2023 20:28:34 GMT
I started to read it and let the download expire. It was entitled, self-important drivel. The frozen todger part didn’t bother me at all. It would have never occurred to me that it can happen, so maybe his talking about it will prevent it happening to others. Kind of like a PSA. God bless him for that. I just tire of the constant "leave me alone/look at me" game he and Megan play. Gets old, doesn't it? I thought they were adorable until they kept blathering about how unfair their lives were. Let's not forget the recent hyperbole regarding the "near-fatal", "almost catastrophic", "crash" that never happened.
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Post by lisacharlotte on May 29, 2023 20:34:54 GMT
I think if you know nothing about the royal family in the last 10 years, deciding this book is where you’ll get your information is probably going to not give you the whole picture. Being critical of someone’s public actions is not hate. Pointing out lies, by direct quote, photographic evidence, and court proceedings, is not hate. Calling out privileged people for their privilege is pretty standard in the word today and is not hate.
Harry and Meghan would not get the pushback (not hate) they do, if they just followed their own published goals for their future. Become private citizens, establish their financial independence, work on their foundation and philanthropy. The Oprah interview, the Netflix series, Harry’s book had nothing to do with them moving on, and everything to do with trying to clapback at any criticism they have received since forever.
I was shocked at the end of the Oprah interview when they didn’t lay out their plans for Archewell. Instead they said this was the last they would talk about the BRF and their time in it. And then they haven’t stopped bringing everything back to the BRF in the last three years.
I’d love to believe they are out there living their best lives, but their own words and actions show us differently. My opinion of them based their own never ending fumbles. It’s too bad, they had the world at their feet and can’t seem to get out of their own way.
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Post by gramasue on May 29, 2023 21:34:53 GMT
I waited literally months to get this book from the library and am sad to report that I just can't get into it right now, for some reason. The few chapters I have read so far make me sad. I've heard so much about this book and want to read it sometime, but I think I'll just take it back and let the other dozen or so waiting for it have a turn.
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Post by birukitty on May 29, 2023 21:55:28 GMT
I checked it out of my local library but didn't even read one page. There are so many more interesting books out there to read, why would I waste my time on this drivel most of which is probably lies? This morning I spent most of the early morning and part of the day reading the new biography that was just released about Corrie Ten Boom called "The Watchmaker's Daughter" by Larry Loftis. I started it last night and finished it today. It was wonderful. I first read "The Hiding Place" in the 1970's and have visited the Corrie Ten Boom museum in Haarlem, Netherlands twice. It was so inspiring to read once again about such a courageous, and religious family who truly loved and sacrificed for others. I'd much rather spend my time reading something like this than a book like "Spare".
I have lost all respect for Harry and Meghan since they left the Royal family.
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Post by pilcas on May 30, 2023 0:04:03 GMT
I haven’t read the book, unlikely that I will since I don’t usually follow celebrity lives or royalty for that matter. That said I did not really follow Harry and Meagan’s lives. Never wished them anything but the best. When the whole leaving the family began, I understood the desire to make a life without certain burdens, but of course those burdens also came with perks. However, I was turned off by the interviews, the books, the bad mouthing etc. I don’t understand how you can think you will badmouth your family and them expect them to treat you as if nothing had happened. That’s not how it works in any family, least of all when it’s all been so publicly aired.
The one thing that really bothers me is that if you have a negative opinion, based on their actions, you are called a hater. Hating takes a lot more emotion than what I feel for either of them. Some people on the board have been very vocal accusing people of being haters. They are nothing short of bullies. You have anything critical to say and they try to bring you down with the label hater. Well, here is the news, we are all entitled to our opinions.
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Post by fiddlesticks on May 30, 2023 4:00:10 GMT
I am on the waitlist for this audiobook and am looking forward to reading it. Like all autobiographies, you have to take it with a grain of salt, I suppose.
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Post by chaosisapony on May 30, 2023 5:04:18 GMT
I am on the waitlist for this audiobook and am looking forward to reading it. Like all autobiographies, you have to take it with a grain of salt, I suppose. I think that's the best way to approach this book. I know if I were to sit down and write my autobiography I would have a vastly different perception of certain events than my sister does.
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