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Post by elaine on Jun 13, 2023 23:39:53 GMT
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Post by lucyg on Jun 14, 2023 0:10:58 GMT
Of course. They only support law enforcement when it’s going after the people they DON’T like. No hypocrisy here, nosirree.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jun 14, 2023 0:34:14 GMT
This addiction to a man who couldn’t care less about them continues to mystify me. I used to joke about them being a cult, but it isn’t so funny any more.
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Post by boys5times on Jun 14, 2023 1:40:57 GMT
Confused here. I read the article you linked, but I don't see what you are talking about. What exactly are you referring to?
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Post by aj2hall on Jun 14, 2023 2:21:17 GMT
You don't have to look very deeply to see Trump and his supporters undermining the rule of law or statements that are anti-police. The Republican Party can no longer claim to be the party of law and order. One of the protestors, a Trump supporter, carried the head of a dead pig on a pike. Also, look at the Republican politicians criticizing the FBI and the Justice Department. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/06/12/republican-response-donald-trump-indictment/Polling from Pew Research Center suggests that the GOP attacks on the FBI and the Justice Department have had an effect. Only 38 percent of Republican and Republican-leaning adults said they viewed the FBI favorably in a survey released in March; and about 40 percent of those respondents viewed the Justice Department favorably. Although Pew’s older data is not comparable to the 2023 survey because of changes in survey mode and the wording of questions, one earlier survey showed that before Trump took office, most Republicans had a positive view of the FBI.
Trump has set the tone for the invective against federal law enforcement agencies. Shortly after the FBI search of Mar-a-Lago last year, he called the FBI and Justice Department “vicious monsters” and scoundrels.
In April, Trump called on the Republican-led Congress to defund the FBI and the Justice Department — a day after he was arraigned in Manhattan on separate charges.
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, one of Trump’s top rivals for the Republican presidential nomination, has stated that he would fire FBI Director Christopher A. Wray, a Trump appointee, on his first day in office.
The party’s tilt away from law enforcement was evident over the weekend in Columbus, Ga., where the state GOP hosted its annual convention, and where Trump delivered his first speech since news of the indictment broke on Thursday.
In addition to Trump’s remarks there, another GOP presidential candidate, Vivek Ramaswamy, repeated his pledge to defund the FBI if he is elected. Throughout the cavernous convention center, delegates wore T-shirts with slogans such as “Defund the FBI” and “These colors don’t RUN. They RELOAD.” One exhibitor passed out a magnet with a mug shot of Trump against a lineup wall with the caption, “NOT GUILTY.”
www.reuters.com/world/us/why-trumps-republican-rivals-are-lining-up-behind-him-attack-fbi-2023-06-13/June 13 (Reuters) - For decades U.S. Republicans have proudly claimed to be the party of law and order.
But the indictment of former President Donald Trump by federal prosecutors over the alleged mishandling of classified documents has led to nearly all of his Republican rivals for the party's White House nomination accusing the FBI of political bias, with some even calling for its dissolution.
The spectacle of so many Republican presidential candidates attacking America's top law enforcement agency while siding with Trump - the front-runner for the nomination - has left many observers dumbfounded, given the party's long tradition of being tough on crime and staunch defenders of federal and local cops.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 14, 2023 4:55:43 GMT
I keep wanting to yell (at them), 'Who do you want to help when you kid gets snatched?' or missing or abused, killed??!??! School bus hijacked?
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Post by elaine on Jun 14, 2023 10:22:40 GMT
Confused here. I read the article you linked, but I don't see what you are talking about. What exactly are you referring to? Parading with a severed real pig’s head on a pike.
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Post by pinklady on Jun 14, 2023 14:07:34 GMT
Confused here. I read the article you linked, but I don't see what you are talking about. What exactly are you referring to? Parading with a severed real pig’s head on a pike. I didn't watch any of the coverage but saw some photos on twitter. I had no idea what that pig head on a stick was for. Now it makes much more sense.
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Post by aj2hall on Jun 15, 2023 0:48:33 GMT
More evidence of Trump & Republicans undermining democracy, the Department of Justice & the rule of law. Trump has successfully eroded trust in the media, the justice system and elections, all to his personal benefit. www.nytimes.com/2023/06/14/us/politics/trump-indictment-biden.htmlUnder indictment and enraged, former President Donald J. Trump — with the help of Republican allies, social media supporters and Fox News — is lashing out at his successor in the hopes of undermining the charges against him.“A corrupt sitting president!” Mr. Trump blared on Tuesday night after being arrested and pleading not guilty in Miami. “The Biden administration has turned us into a banana republic,” one of his longtime advisers wrote in a fund-raising email. “Wannabe dictator,” read a chyron on Fox News, accusing Mr. Biden of having his political rival arrested.The accusations against Mr. Biden are being presented without any evidence that they are true, and Mr. Trump’s claims of an unfair prosecution came even after Attorney General Merrick B. Garland appointed a special counsel specifically to insulate the inquiries from political considerations.But that hardly seems to be the point for Mr. Trump and his allies as they make a concerted effort to smear Mr. Biden and erode confidence in the legal system. Just hours after his arraignment, Mr. Trump promised payback if he wins the White House in 2024.www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/06/14/donald-trump-indictment-campaign/In the process, Trump is now determinedly delegitimizing the legal system, as he has tried to do in the past with public health measures, the intelligence community, elections and other people or agencies he views as opposing him. Experts on extremism have raised alarms about the potential for violence stemming from rhetoric that demonizes law enforcement and in some cases encourages Trump supporters to resist, even as concerns about outbreaks of violence in Miami did not materialize.
Republican politicians and right-wing commentators have talked about “weaponization” 20 times more often in spring 2023 than in spring 2022, according to a Washington Post analysis of more than a thousand influencers’ social media posts, podcasts and television appearances. Use of the term spiked after the FBI searched Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate last August, inspiring a supporter to attack an FBI field office in Cincinnati. A Fox News chyron on Tuesday night referred to Biden as a “wannabe dictator” who had “his political rival arrested.” Even Republican candidates criticizing Trump’s actions used stronger invective about the government’s actions than Trump’s.
The specific allegations against Trump — indictments for hush money payments before the 2016 election and mishandling classified materials, as well as ongoing investigations into his efforts to overturn the 2020 election — pertain to conduct as a presidential candidate, president or former president. Still, as Trump baselessly accuses the FBI of planting evidence and claims prosecutors are politically motivated, he is showing success in convincing supporters that they could be equally vulnerable to “weaponized” law enforcement based on different kinds of spurious charges.
“Nothing is going to stick,” said Kevin Shinault, 65, a longtime school coach who wore a bright red MAGA hat and a blue shirt that said ULTRA MAGA. “We don’t trust the media. We don’t trust the criminal justice system. … We don’t trust the recording no more than we trust voting by machine or voting by mail.”
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