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Post by crazy4scraps on Jun 15, 2023 14:14:38 GMT
At my last corporate job, it was based on seniority. The people who were there longest always got the first crack at the prime vacation times and those weeks were always snapped up quickly. I’m so glad we’re self employed. When we want to take time off, we just block out the time and that’s that.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jun 15, 2023 14:44:43 GMT
I think this just varies tremendously on type of work environment. I have never had to have my vacations or PTO approved and wouldn't have hesitated to say I'm leaving at 2 - honestly I'm not even sure I'd email, I'd just leave. In my last corporate job we had unlimited vacation - mostly as they knew people weren't going to use it all and financially it worked out way better for them - but that's an aside. I worked in lots of big companies and a few small ones and honestly have never once been asked for my vacation schedule or to justify PTO time.
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Post by Jamie on Jun 15, 2023 14:48:59 GMT
I manage keeping everyone's calendars updated with the teams time off. We have an excel spreadsheet everyone puts their time on. The Partner I work for is pretty lax on vacation approval, so whatever gets put on the schedule is approved. He knows if someone has something that needs to be done they will make sure it's handled either before they are off or will do it while they are on PTO. Unfortunately I don't think anyone has really ever had a full vacation without having to do something for work.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jun 15, 2023 14:59:20 GMT
I manage keeping everyone's calendars updated with the teams time off. We have an excel spreadsheet everyone puts their time on. The Partner I work for is pretty lax on vacation approval, so whatever gets put on the schedule is approved. He knows if someone has something that needs to be done they will make sure it's handled either before they are off or will do it while they are on PTO. Unfortunately I don't think anyone has really ever had a full vacation without having to do something for work. That is definitely the other side of the reality of my post. Most of the time I've never really been off. I have a crazy story from the 90s about a vacation in Africa that involved a fax flown in on a small plane, but yeah - the other side of never having to justify your vacation/pto time is never really being gone.
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Post by Neisey on Jun 15, 2023 20:50:56 GMT
We submit leave and absence requests through our payroll system. I am in management and there are 3-4 of us that chat to make sure 1 of us is always in the office so generally no issue. We have a Child Care Centre on site which needs to meet staff to child ratios, which means sometimes leave requests are not approved as it is first come first served. Unfortunately this means some staff will just call in sick.
We have generous leave benefits, starting at 3 weeks of vacation (4 days must be used at Christmas, but when that was instated we went from 2 weeks vacation to 3 weeks so everyone ended up getting 1 extra day overall), 2 weeks of sick/personal, 12 statutory holidays. When we close for 2 weeks at Christmas we are paid through 3 stats, 3 days gift of time from our Board and the 4 days of vacation. It is much appreciated by me but still staff grumble that they have to use 4 days of vacation.
We can use any of our leave on an hourly basis.
We cannot carry over except in extenuating circumstances. I earn 15 sick/personal days and last year used 1/2 a day. Others plan out how they can use all their days. I am Old school and my mind cannot wrap itself around using these days for things other than sickness of self or family this extends to pets), Mental Health, medical/dental appointments, etc.
We also have good bereavement leave, which increases if you have to travel out of province.
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Post by Rhondito on Jun 15, 2023 20:57:42 GMT
We just take off when we want to. We're all basically self-managed - we make sure our work is done and do what we want. There are two of us who do the same thing and we try not to be out at the same time (for a significant amount of time), but otherwise we just give a heads-up that we're going to be out the following week or day, etc.
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Post by danalz on Jun 16, 2023 16:24:56 GMT
If I can get coverage with another case manager, I can take time off. If I call in sick or have an emergency, my team partner RN and my manager handle issues that come up on our caseload.
I get 23 days PTO each year and never have problems taking off if I need or want it.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jun 16, 2023 16:47:10 GMT
At my last corporate job, it was based on seniority. The people who were there longest always got the first crack at the prime vacation times and those weeks were always snapped up quickly. I’m so glad we’re self employed. When we want to take time off, we just block out the time and that’s that. This irritates the fuck out of me about Jeremy's job. He works at the kind of place where people stay 20-30 years. He's been there 5 years now and they allow all the more senior employees to pick ALL their weeks of vacation before it gets down to him. When he went to pick his measly two weeks of vacation this year, he had his choice between two weeks in April and two weeks in September. There was nothing May-August. He will not get so much as a day off at Christmas other than Christmas Day. And in addition, he is supposed to earn a 3rd week of vacation at 5 years. This summer was his anniversary and they told him he is not entitled to a third week off until 2024. And then my third gripe is that they don't even circulate the vacation schedule until January, by the time it got down to him, it was mid-February. He has wanted to cruise in January for longer than I've known him. But the vacation schedule doesn't even allow him to pick until mid-February so nobody gets vacation time in January. It's one big clusterfuck. I have one coworker who does the same job as me. We try to coordinate our times off so we can provide customer service, but most of our jobs can pause while we are out. I have just over 4 weeks of vacation a year and can pretty much take it whenever I want. I wait to see every year what Jeremy can get off.
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Post by chaosisapony on Jun 16, 2023 16:55:24 GMT
We have specific weeks blacked out where no one can be off more than one day in that week. Other than that we submit a request and management approves it. It's exceedingly rare to have a request denied. Our management understands the need for work/life balance and will fill in as needed if we are down to a skeleton crew. In our office of 16 we can be due to only 4 or 5 people working on a given day due to vacations, holidays, events, etc.
Tbh, I view time off the same way your employees do. I'm giving my employer a notification that I will not be in on a specific date. I am not "requesting". If I were to get my time off denied I'd simply call in sick and probably start looking for another job.
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Post by Lexica on Jun 16, 2023 17:56:30 GMT
The last few positions I held while working had a PTO form of days off. Sick days, you obviously don’t need advanced permission to take unless you will be out for an extended time such as a planned surgery. About the only issue I noticed was around the holidays. Everyone wanted off over the holidays and it was on a first come first served basis. People were putting in for the week between Christmas and New Years a full year ahead of time and if someone else in your department beat you to it, you had to work. It was quite stressful to be around my coworkers at that time of year. I thought the parents with young children should be allowed to take the time off. I didn’t mind working it after my son had grown up.
My job was pretty independent from the others in the office after the initial look of a document was decided. And I could easily just email a couple of samples to the principal of that particular job and ask for approval for A or B design. I didn’t need to have anyone in the office with me to do my part.
The last couple of years it got so bad with people arguing over who got to take that week off that the owners decided to just close for the week. I thought that was a great solution because most of our clients were closed over the holidays anyway. It stopped all of the office bickering.
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Post by compeateropeator on Jun 16, 2023 18:17:35 GMT
At my last corporate job, it was based on seniority. The people who were there longest always got the first crack at the prime vacation times and those weeks were always snapped up quickly. I’m so glad we’re self employed. When we want to take time off, we just block out the time and that’s that. This irritates the fuck out of me about Jeremy's job. He works at the kind of place where people stay 20-30 years. He's been there 5 years now and they allow all the more senior employees to pick ALL their weeks of vacation before it gets down to him. When he went to pick his measly two weeks of vacation this year, he had his choice between two weeks in April and two weeks in September. There was nothing May-August. He will not get so much as a day off at Christmas other than Christmas Day. And in addition, he is supposed to earn a 3rd week of vacation at 5 years. This summer was his anniversary and they told him he is not entitled to a third week off until 2024. And then my third gripe is that they don't even circulate the vacation schedule until January, by the time it got down to him, it was mid-February. He has wanted to cruise in January for longer than I've known him. But the vacation schedule doesn't even allow him to pick until mid-February so nobody gets vacation time in January. It's one big clusterfuck. I have one coworker who does the same job as me. We try to coordinate our times off so we can provide customer service, but most of our jobs can pause while we are out. I have just over 4 weeks of vacation a year and can pretty much take it whenever I want. I wait to see every year what Jeremy can I feel so bad for your husband (and you 😉) with this policy. I am also so happy to no longer be in a managerial position where I had to schedule vacation for a large group of people. We could only have a person (or maybe two) out at the same time. And of course everyone wanted summer. We also had to schedule by seniority…but we went down the list and allowed everyone to pick one vacation. We then started at the top for anyone who had additional weeks, continuing in this fashion until everyone had scheduled all their weeks. At least even those there for less years had the option for something “okay” on the first round of scheduling. I hated to and tried not to, but there were a few times that I could not approve a request. There were also times that I couldn’t take time, had time canceled, or had to be in on a meeting while on vacation. It is what happens when you take a job for someone other than yourself and it sucks to be the person denying or the person being denied.
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Post by scrapperal on Jun 16, 2023 18:21:05 GMT
I get vacation time and sick time; they are two different banks. Sick time doesn't roll over, but vacation time does with a max amount that can be banked. Vacation time approval is requested via email and can be denied, which is rare. Ironically, that happened to me last year, which really pissed me off (upper management said we were too busy so my manager didn't have a choice). I went from taking a week and half to to taking one day off. I had family visiting (I gave work a couple months notice) and had to work while they were here. The day I took off was to travel to a funeral. <vent over>
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Post by sarahruby on Jun 16, 2023 22:25:54 GMT
I work for large hospital. In my department we have a lot of flexability. I have vacation and personal days. I work from home. If I need to take a couple hours off early, I can make the time up. I just let my manager know. When it comes to taking a day off, we have a department calendar that everyone can see. If more than 2 are off, I won't take that day off. Otherwise, I put my name on the calendar and send a vacation request to my manager. For personal time, we get the money for unused days every year.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jun 17, 2023 2:58:33 GMT
At my last corporate job, it was based on seniority. The people who were there longest always got the first crack at the prime vacation times and those weeks were always snapped up quickly. I’m so glad we’re self employed. When we want to take time off, we just block out the time and that’s that. This irritates the fuck out of me about Jeremy's job. He works at the kind of place where people stay 20-30 years. He's been there 5 years now and they allow all the more senior employees to pick ALL their weeks of vacation before it gets down to him. When he went to pick his measly two weeks of vacation this year, he had his choice between two weeks in April and two weeks in September. There was nothing May-August. He will not get so much as a day off at Christmas other than Christmas Day. And in addition, he is supposed to earn a 3rd week of vacation at 5 years. This summer was his anniversary and they told him he is not entitled to a third week off until 2024. And then my third gripe is that they don't even circulate the vacation schedule until January, by the time it got down to him, it was mid-February. He has wanted to cruise in January for longer than I've known him. But the vacation schedule doesn't even allow him to pick until mid-February so nobody gets vacation time in January. It's one big clusterfuck. I have one coworker who does the same job as me. We try to coordinate our times off so we can provide customer service, but most of our jobs can pause while we are out. I have just over 4 weeks of vacation a year and can pretty much take it whenever I want. I wait to see every year what Jeremy can get off. That all really sucks and it’s exactly how it was at my job. There were a bunch of people who were there forevvvvver so they all had 4-6 weeks to take and they got to pick all of their weeks at once when their turn with the calendar came up. By the time the list got around to us peons there was nothing decent left to choose from. It really isn’t very fair to let multiple people with that much vacation time to basically dominate the calendar. I was really concerned when I was getting married that I wouldn’t be able to take my two weeks vacation consecutively for my honeymoon. I didn’t want to tell anyone at work why I was taking all my vacation at once because we planned a really small wedding and we weren’t inviting anyone from there. Thankfully it all worked out but I was ready to quit if I had to to get the time off.
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Post by wordfish on Jun 17, 2023 17:45:21 GMT
I have to approve time-off requests for my staff. The only time I've hesitated to approve is because of coverage, or because they don't have the paid time off available. If it's the latter, I offer to check if they would be able to take the time unpaid or have a bit of time off advanced to them.
It's pretty annoying on the management side to have to deal with requests that are made where there is clearly not enough time off available. If the time off is because of illness or a family emergency, that is totally understandable. But if it's because you want to go do stuff and you've already used up your time going and doing stuff--that's really annoying to deal with.
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