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Post by librarylady on Jun 16, 2023 2:36:43 GMT
Thank goodness science freed this woman.
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Post by YooHoot on Jun 16, 2023 3:43:10 GMT
That’s crazy. Makes you wonder how many more stories like this are out there.
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Post by milocat on Jun 16, 2023 4:01:40 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 16, 2023 4:30:45 GMT
In the article I read the other day her DH was quoted as saying he not believe it. Sorry, I just read librarylady 's article and it has a lot more info which also explains that the DH has refused to give his DNA. Shame on him! **** Both of them should donate their DNA and whatever else might be needed for testing to allow the scientists to study more. With genes, it can come from either side unless it is determined that both parents have to carry the gene combination for the results. |
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Post by AllieC on Jun 16, 2023 8:21:07 GMT
It’s been big news here. She has been one of Australia’s most hated women for so long (atrb_partsz) and I hope that she can now rebuild her life.
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Post by lesserknownpea on Jun 16, 2023 9:39:46 GMT
That poor woman. Lost her sweet babies. Betrayed by her husband. Vilified by a nation. Imprisoned for hideous crimes she was innocent of. Most likely picked out for special mistreatment by the actual criminals who like to think they are better than some of their fellow inmates.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Jun 16, 2023 11:07:21 GMT
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Post by librarylady on Jun 16, 2023 13:40:23 GMT
Ooops. I didn't see your previous post. |
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Post by librarylady on Jun 16, 2023 13:43:37 GMT
Regarding the husband and refusing to give DNA.......I don't know if it would be an amount that could be used for all the testing, but the if the authorities could get his eating utensil, a cup/glass where he has consumed food or liquid they could get DNA there. I have read of crimes solved by DNA from such a source. I have no idea if anyone would go to those lengths when solving a crime is not the problem.
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Post by littlemama on Jun 16, 2023 13:48:03 GMT
How horrible. She not only lost her children and her reputation, but also her entire young adulthood.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jun 16, 2023 14:52:52 GMT
I can't even imagine all that she has gone through. I am glad that they learned the truth now, even though so much damage has already been done.
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Post by tincin on Jun 16, 2023 15:43:42 GMT
Regarding the husband and refusing to give DNA.......I don't know if it would be an amount that could be used for all the testing, but the if the authorities could get his eating utensil, a cup/glass where he has consumed food or liquid they could get DNA there. I have read of crimes solved by DNA from such a source. I have no idea if anyone would go to those lengths when solving a crime is not the problem. But if he gave his DNA he might have to face the fact that he turned on his wife and helped convict her. He can’t have that happen now could he? |
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Post by femalebusiness on Jun 16, 2023 16:20:13 GMT
That is horrible. To lose your children is bad enough but to be thought that she murdered them and spend twenty years in prison is beyond what anyone should have to bear.
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Post by Lexica on Jun 16, 2023 17:21:30 GMT
That poor woman. I hope she is pampered beyond belief by the public now that she is free. I think she deserves a compensation settlement for all she has had to endure. They condemned her with zero evidence. And that husband! Why would he refuse to give his dna now? Does he not want to admit that it was a combination of both of their dnas that caused this? He was just as culpable as she was.
Does Australia collect dna from all prisoners as a routine part of their incarceration? I know we have several dna bases here in the states. At least when I watch crime shows they say they checked the regular data base and the military database, etc. I think there should be one central database for the entire world. Heck, I wouldn’t be opposed to having my dna in it.
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Post by withapea on Jun 16, 2023 19:52:12 GMT
Wow, I can’t imagine what her life has been like. What a tragedy. The gene stuff is so interesting, it amazes me what they’re figuring out.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 16, 2023 20:52:31 GMT
Wonder if she has other family who should be willing to surround her with love?
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Post by pjaye on Jun 16, 2023 23:44:31 GMT
This was already posted 2peasrefugees.boards.net/thread/139401/aussie-peas-kathleen-folbigg-pardoned?page=1&scrollTo=3942463and I posted the original article. Yes she was freed, but the discovery of the 2 gene mutations isn't proof that she still didn't do it. If they had this knowledge at the time it would probably have been enough for reasonable doubt but there is no proof the gene fault caused the death of the babies. The article says "might have" and "could have" etc. It's an "alternative explanation" and therefore she may not have been convicted if they had this knowledge at the time...or she may still have been. I don't have a personal opinion of if she did it or not - but you have to read what the articles are actually saying, and they are not saying the discovery of the gene mutations are concrete proof and therefore she is innocent. Lots of people have gene mutations that have the potential to cause diseases - but don't. The BRCA (1&2) genes are a perfect example - women who have these genes are at a higher risk of developing breast cancer, but approx 30-40% of women who inherit the genes will not get breast cancer. Therefore just because they have shown the babies has a specific gene mutation doesn't mean they developed the heart disease that caused their deaths. |
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Post by librarylady on Jun 17, 2023 0:35:01 GMT
pjaye I think there is enough reasonable doubt, given the gene problems, that I would have voted for acquittal. She may be a killer, but these medical reasons create enough doubt for me.
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Post by pjaye on Jun 17, 2023 1:17:11 GMT
pjaye I think there is enough reasonable doubt, given the gene problems, that I would have voted for acquittal. She may be a killer, but these medical reasons create enough doubt for me. So you believe that 100% of the women who have the BRCA1 gene will get breast cancer....even though the statistics don't support that? Because you MUST believe that if you believe that ALL babies with this CALM2 gene die. And if ALL babies with the gene mutation die...then how is Katherine (or any other woman with this gene mutation) still alive to pass the gene on? If a gene mutation is always fatal...then it cannot get passed on can it? Clearly some people with it go on to live normal healthy lives...and have babies of their own. You can't just take a single piece of information and make sweeping assumptions, surely you were taught or learned, (being a librarian) the importance of critical thinking? I hope you are never on jury duty because it sounds like you'll be convinced by the first piece of persuasive evidence you are presented with. |
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Post by librarylady on Jun 17, 2023 2:23:52 GMT
Did you read my response? I said I would vote for acquittal because there is reasonable doubt--doubt she did it and doubt that it was caused by the gene pool.
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