compeateropeator
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Post by compeateropeator on Jul 15, 2023 12:06:41 GMT
well I will be the outlier with my post as their comments would not bother me.
I would expect vegan food. I would eat what I like and if I was still hungry at the end I would fix myself something when I got home or stop somewhere. I would also expect you to not be upset, hurt, or offended if I did not like or eat everything.
I might not love or eat the whole black bean burger as I do not like beans and have not found a bean burger that I have liked yet. But I would try it and if I liked it I would eat it. I would also hope that if I left it on my plate or did not finish it I wouldn’t be judge by you.
Truthfully, the McDonalds comment would not bother me at all. It certainly doesn’t need to be said out loud but with good friends I would laugh that comment off and make some off the cuff or smart ass remark back, but that is the way our friendships are…same with a political comment or other such comment. Now if if it was just an acquaintance or not a close friend I would not say anything and neither should they.
I would be accepting your invitation because I wanted to hang with you not because of the food that was being provided. Food I can make myself, hanging out with friends would be my real purpose for going.
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Post by cakediva on Jul 15, 2023 12:10:08 GMT
Ouch that stung. How can someone eat non vegan only? Just meat all day? Or does that mean substitute foods? Yeah I’m not going to have my plant based home cooked meal go to a complete waste because even if they do eat it and have a Big Mac later on it’s all for nothing. I’m sorry - maybe I’m misunderstanding you - but how do I eat non-vegan? I don’t eat meat all day. I have fruit and yogurt and granola for breakfast, I have eggs or some type of protein (usually leftover meat from dinner) and veggies/salad at lunch, and meat & veggies for dinner. I eat cheese and nuts for snacks. I cook with butter & olive oil. Aside from actual fruit and veggies, nothing in my kitchen is plant based (mayo, cheese, condiments, etc) Thats how I eat non-vegan.
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Post by hop2 on Jul 15, 2023 12:16:12 GMT
Just allow them to bring their own food as you would do elsewhere, don’t take it personally and leave it at that. Just have a good visit and good conversations and be gracious with each others choices
That’s what we do.
Yes, not everyone is gracious about that and some people get all hurt if you won’t eat their food. It’s a real pain in the ass when people wont just accept a simple ‘no thank you’. Some people have to quiz you or trick you or make a big deal out if it. That’s a short rd to me not socializing with that person again.
Some food requirements are medically necessary and even cross contact with the problematic food can cause medical issues. Each person needs to be able to make their own food choices take or not take what ever risks without judgement or stigma at social events.
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Post by Merge on Jul 15, 2023 12:24:37 GMT
I would expect a vegan meal and would be just fine with it. What you have planned sounds amazing! I’m sorry your friends are being turds about it. Some people just can’t seem to deal with things outside their comfort zone.
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Post by lisae on Jul 15, 2023 12:27:12 GMT
That was very rude of them to say that. Would I think that? Probably. I'm a picky eater. If I knew you well enough I might say that I was willing to try anything but would ask if you would be offended if I did not clean my plate or something like that. I don't care how it is prepared some foods are just not to one's taste at all. You said that you bring your own food to other people's gatherings. That may offend them.
I'm not really sure. To be perfectly honest, I would probably avoid an all vegan meal because I truly hate beans and am not fond of several of the things on your menu. I realize this isn't the PC response but it is how I feel about food. I have gone to dinners or events and tried things I knew I would not like to avoid offending the hosts.
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Post by hop2 on Jul 15, 2023 12:33:20 GMT
Yeah I’m not going to have my plant based home cooked meal go to a complete waste because even if they do eat it and have a Big Mac later on it’s all for nothing. What does that even mean? ‘All for nothing’ unless you’re trying to ‘convert’ them what does it matter if they eat something else after? People need to let go of trying to rule other peoples food needs and stop taking it personally when someone politely says ‘no thank you’ It’s bullshit attitudes like this that make life difficult for those of us with medically necessary food requirements. I say a simple ‘no thank you’ or if pressed ‘I can’t, no thank you’. And people just can’t leave it alone. I’m not asking you to accommodate me I’m just asking you to simply leave it be & not make a big deal if it. Just leave it be at that point. I’m not making a big deal if it so just be gracious and not make a big deal of it either. That’s so rude to press people about their food choices - it’s not your business and maybe they don’t want to talk about it with you. Don’t take others food needs personally, be gracious, be accepting, don’t make a big deal if it. It’s not actually that hard.
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Post by guzismom on Jul 15, 2023 12:47:50 GMT
I have to be honest, this would piss me off and I would probably uninvite them.
However, trying to be the better person I would realize that I also bring my own food to their events and they seem to be ok with it; so maybe I should extend them the same grace?
It's more the comment and the way it seems to have been delivered than the actual bringing of food that would put me off.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 15, 2023 12:52:49 GMT
I would probably expect a vegan meal if you are hosting and it isn’t a potluck. On its face, we all eat food that is “vegan.” Assuming you eat vegetables, fruits, grains. However, I wonder if the lack of meat is their issue or that they aren’t adventurous eaters. What you posted could very well be tasty, but it isn’t what most people normally eat and they may be reluctant to try new things. They may also have a negative view of “vegan” and automatically think it is “weird” or unusual food.
You could try having a potluck or telling them that they are welcome to bring a dish.
I think their comment was really rude.
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Post by littlemama on Jul 15, 2023 13:02:17 GMT
They are incredibly rude. If they didnt want to come, they could decline or they could bring a dish that they would want to eat, much as you do when you go to gatherings.
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Post by PLurker on Jul 15, 2023 13:16:25 GMT
Reverse the roles. Would they appreciate a "We would love to join you. We can always stop at xxx on the way home." if they were preparing the meal at their home, out of your norm aka their way?
I think not. People can be so short sighted and don't think before they speak. And rude. Yep. Rude.
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Post by Sarah*H on Jul 15, 2023 13:23:07 GMT
I agree that they are being rude. But I also wouldn't be bothered by the comment because the issues of veganism, vegetarianism and any specialized diet can bring out the awful in people on both sides of the equation. Let's be real, there are some crazy, militant vegans out there who want to preach and convert and make their dietary choices the center of attention. It's the same for keto. And gluten free. And dairy free. Substitute your eating style of choice. And by this point in our lives, most of us have also been subjected to a lot of "you are going to love these gluten free dairy free sugar free smores cookie bars, they taste just like the real thing!" to know that sometimes some particular substitutions are not to our taste. Obviously that doesn't excuse rudeness and most of us will gratefully eat the dishes we are served at gatherings and keep our thoughts to ourselves. Among close friends, I think there is some leeway to be honest and to make jokes but that also doesn't work for everyone in every situation. And your friends should know you well enough to know what's okay to tease about and what isn't.
My friend and family groups have seemingly every possible eating style - vegans, vegetarians, omnivores, gluten free, dairy free, pescatarians, keto, only eat poultry, don't eat anything with legs including some crustaceans but other fish are okay... it could be a minefield, right? But it's not because everyone is pretty much go with the flow. When people are entertaining, they seem to have the most success with dishes that aren't trying to be substitutes for anything. Lentil chili was a flop but taco soup was a win. Oil and vinegar based picnic salads vs. ones made with vegan mayo, etc. Berries are great for summer gatherings because even people on low carb or keto diets can eat them. And some foods are universal like grilled veggies, hummus, salsa, veggie trays, etc. Cauliflower and zucchini may be the two most useful foods in the world when trying to make something so delicious that everyone loves and will eat, lol! I'm definitely not trying to tell you how to entertain - you should do whatever makes you happy since you're the host! - I'm just offering some suggestions that work for our gatherings that make dietary styles/choices not an issue.
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Post by scraplette on Jul 15, 2023 13:23:56 GMT
You have me googling strawberry soup recipes! Everything sounds delicious. Dinner with friends is about time together for me, although a good meal makes it more fun. The MacDonald’s comment is dumb but I’d cut them some slack. They probably thought it funny without thinking how much this means to you- or that you’d heard it 227 times before. FWIW I do understand. We invited a couple and their kids over for my husbands laborious specialty. These self-proclaimed foodies reciprocated with Stouffer’s lasagna. They’ve hinted many times since for another invite that will never come. My husband has never forgotten it, restaurant meals only now- and it’s been 15-16 years!
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Post by Fidget on Jul 15, 2023 13:31:27 GMT
I would happily take their place and eat everything you are planning on preparing, and I'm not vegan or vegetarian.
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Post by quiltz on Jul 15, 2023 13:33:47 GMT
Please, the recipe PLEASE
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Post by milocat on Jul 15, 2023 13:38:19 GMT
I would expect a vegan meal. That meal sounds delicious. I assume they think that they won't feel full and satisfied so will need a meat burger after. They can stop at McDonald's if they want, just don't tell anyone! Rude idiots.
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Post by RosieKat on Jul 15, 2023 14:54:33 GMT
I would assume vegan! Kind of like if I was invited to a native Italian's home in Italy, I'd expect Italian. I wouldn't say "Oh, I'll be stopping for Chinese on the way home!" It's just rude.
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Post by scrappinghappy on Jul 15, 2023 15:01:09 GMT
You have me googling strawberry soup recipes! Please, the recipe PLEASE Here's the recipe. cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1012735-strawberry-soupI leave out the rosewater as I think it makes the soup taste like soap. Use whatever sweetener you have on hand or none if your strawberries are super sweet
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Post by momto4kiddos on Jul 15, 2023 15:03:43 GMT
I'd expect vegan and i'd be THRILLED to be invited and try something new. People are morons. We were just at an event where the child has celiac disease. The parents catered a gluten free menu. It was just addressed that child has severe celiac disease to everyone as a group. In line with the child's grandparent who says to me everything is gluten free, I reply it looks delicious. The next person he says the same thing to says "that's ok"
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Post by 950nancy on Jul 15, 2023 15:08:29 GMT
I would never expect a vegan to make me a meal with meat. Your meal sounds delicious. If I was hungry on the way home, I'd stop somewhere. I would never say that to a host. However, I can see many people saying this thinking that it wouldn't be offensive since so many people crave/need meat to feel full. I would reserve that anger for their comments at the meal though. The comment about Mc Donalds seems insensitive. Comments about the meal while they are at your house would earn them a banning from future meals though. It just seems like a really rude thing to do.
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Post by femalebusiness on Jul 15, 2023 15:25:54 GMT
I would not serve meat. Your menu is fine, sounds delicious.
If those guests said one more comment like that I would look them right in the eye and tell them “That is an incredibly rude and classless thing to say”, then turn and walk away.
If they have no problem saying rude things, I would have have zero problems being direct with them. As a matter of fact knowing that they will probably mouth off I would have several comebacks in my pocket to use when they open their mouths.
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Post by pilcas on Jul 15, 2023 15:32:23 GMT
I thought the comment was very rude. I’m not vegan but I make lots of bean soups in winter, chickpea curry over rice, pasta and bean salads that are in fact vegan.
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Post by chaosisapony on Jul 15, 2023 15:57:09 GMT
I would expect a vegan meal if the hosts were vegan. That's a very rude thing for them to say. Even if you're thinking that, you don't say that!
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Post by mikklynn on Jul 15, 2023 16:34:02 GMT
I would expect a vegan meal and I would enjoy it. You are cooking a lot of food. If they are going to comment on the food I would make an excuse and back out of hosting them honestly.
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Jul 15, 2023 17:31:34 GMT
Ouch that stung. How can someone eat non vegan only? Just meat all day? Or does that mean substitute foods? Yeah I’m not going to have my plant based home cooked meal go to a complete waste because even if they do eat it and have a Big Mac later on it’s all for nothing. I’m sorry - maybe I’m misunderstanding you - but how do I eat non-vegan? I don’t eat meat all day. I have fruit and yogurt and granola for breakfast, I have eggs or some type of protein (usually leftover meat from dinner) and veggies/salad at lunch, and meat & veggies for dinner. I eat cheese and nuts for snacks. I cook with butter & olive oil. Aside from actual fruit and veggies, nothing in my kitchen is plant based (mayo, cheese, condiments, etc) Thats how I eat non-vegan. It sounds like you do eat vegan too. Maybe that’s not the proper word? Isn’t a vegetable vegan if it has no meat or dairy? Or is the proper term vegetarian? My brain doesn’t register like that right away. Sometimes when I see the word vegan, especially with a capital V, the first thing I think about is the movie Contact ☺️⭐️ When I first read “non vegan only” (it’s the “only” that confused me) I thought how can any one only eat foods that aren’t vegan? But maybe in proper terms I was basically thinking how can anyone not eat vegetables? It just sounds like 2 different things if someone says “I’m not vegan” vs. “I eat non vegan only” But maybe it only does to me. I noticed the OP put the vegan part in quotations so they most likely meant substitute foods like plant based, which would make sense. (Not that I would be for or against any diet) (I personally am for a certain one for the most part because of how my own body reacts now, but I don’t think there’s a name for it)
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Post by disneypal on Jul 15, 2023 17:38:05 GMT
If I was going to a Vegan friend’s house for a meal, I would only expect to be served Vegan food.
However, not everyone enjoys vegan food, so if they wanted to go to McD’s after, that’s their business but they should keep their mouth shut about it. That’s just rude to say something like that to someone who invited you to dinner.
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Post by ihaveonly1l on Jul 15, 2023 17:43:37 GMT
The comment was rude.
However, I always make sure that I have something that is all preferences I know. I do know that is harder for people who will not cook/handle meat for personal/religious reasons.
I have a friend that is a vegetarian. One year we had a chili cook off for Super Bowl. She wasn't local but was in town and I wasn't going to have her try to make a chili she could eat in a hotel room so I made sure there was one chili that didn't have meat in it.
If you don't want to cook a few "regular hamburgers" I understand that, but maybe let them know that if they wanted a different type of burger they could throw one on the grill too.
The rudeness was ridiculous and they should have accepted or declined without the snide comment.
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Post by scraplette on Jul 15, 2023 17:53:05 GMT
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Post by lavawalker1 on Jul 15, 2023 18:18:53 GMT
Wow….. what jerks! I love your menu, and would love to take their place! My cholesterol has been creeping upwards, and I’d love to get more into plant based meals 😋
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Jul 15, 2023 18:19:33 GMT
Yeah I’m not going to have my plant based home cooked meal go to a complete waste because even if they do eat it and have a Big Mac later on it’s all for nothing. What does that even mean? ‘All for nothing’ unless you’re trying to ‘convert’ them what does it matter if they eat something else after? People need to let go of trying to rule other peoples food needs and stop taking it personally when someone politely says ‘no thank you’ It’s bullshit attitudes like this that make life difficult for those of us with medically necessary food requirements. I say a simple ‘no thank you’ or if pressed ‘I can’t, no thank you’. And people just can’t leave it alone. I’m not asking you to accommodate me I’m just asking you to simply leave it be & not make a big deal if it. Just leave it be at that point. I’m not making a big deal if it so just be gracious and not make a big deal of it either. That’s so rude to press people about their food choices - it’s not your business and maybe they don’t want to talk about it with you. Don’t take others food needs personally, be gracious, be accepting, don’t make a big deal if it. It’s not actually that hard. It wasn’t a hit against the food choice but the food quality. A home cooked meal (whether plant based, meat based, or any other kind of natural based) is higher quality than fast food. (Especially one from an un-originated place (Ok yes, the movie The Founder triggered me) I’ve bagged groceries a ton over the past 5 years and some of those customers have become good friends. I don’t judge our friendship over their food choices even though they aren’t my own. And they don’t judge me over mine. Is that really a thing? I’m judging the friends of the OP because I think they were being inconsiderate and disrespectful. Have food choices become a such a sensitive topic to discuss? Maybe I shouldn’t touch on it any more if it’s become political because I don’t know how to navigate through those discussions. I think I’ll just stick with my numbers because that I do know my way around and I don’t mind being judged on that.
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Post by cakediva on Jul 15, 2023 18:38:17 GMT
I’m sorry - maybe I’m misunderstanding you - but how do I eat non-vegan? I don’t eat meat all day. I have fruit and yogurt and granola for breakfast, I have eggs or some type of protein (usually leftover meat from dinner) and veggies/salad at lunch, and meat & veggies for dinner. I eat cheese and nuts for snacks. I cook with butter & olive oil. Aside from actual fruit and veggies, nothing in my kitchen is plant based (mayo, cheese, condiments, etc) Thats how I eat non-vegan. It sounds like you do eat vegan too. Maybe that’s not the proper word? Isn’t a vegetable vegan if it has no meat or dairy? Or is the proper term vegetarian? My brain doesn’t register like that right away. Sometimes when I see the word vegan, especially with a capital V, the first thing I think about is the movie Contact ☺️⭐️ When I first read “non vegan only” (it’s the “only” that confused me) I thought how can any one only eat foods that aren’t vegan? But maybe in proper terms I was basically thinking how can anyone not eat vegetables? It just sounds like 2 different things if someone says “I’m not vegan” vs. “I eat non vegan only” But maybe it only does to me. I noticed the OP put the vegan part in quotations so they most likely meant substitute foods like plant based, which would make sense. (Not that I would be for or against any diet) (I personally am for a certain one for the most part because of how my own body reacts now, but I don’t think there’s a name for it) I consider the way we eat non-vegan. I cook with butter (definitely not vegan) and if I have vegetables they likely have butter added at the end if they are cooked. Salad dressings often are mayo or sour cream based (not vegan) - rice has butter when cooking. I don't consider anything I eat to be vegan - just a regular old way of eating. I'm not vegan, I'm not vegetarian, I'm just me.
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