breetheflea
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Post by breetheflea on Jul 18, 2023 3:44:04 GMT
I think I'd rather have a toddler again!
DD is 18 and overdue to learn to drive. DH decided he "doesn't have enough time" to be her only teacher and I'm going to have to help, so I got to sit in the backseat on DD's first foray out of the local parking lot. I was shaking and sweaty, and not even the one doing the teaching! I don't know if I can handle hours and hours of driving practice and not have a heart attack. There are driver's classes of course, but they are 30 hours of class and only five hours of actual driving... and it's supposed to take (according to Google) 45-60 hours of actual driving to be ready for a license.
I did not get my license until I was 23 because when my mom was teaching me, she'd grab stuff and screech, and after driver's ed I was at college without a car to practice with for four years... My father-in-law taught me after I married DH...
Any tips? Or tricks? Or advice on how to remain calm during driving lessons? I need them all!
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Jul 18, 2023 4:17:17 GMT
I think I'd rather have a toddler again! DD is 18 and overdue to learn to drive. DH decided he "doesn't have enough time" to be her only teacher and I'm going to have to help, so I got to sit in the backseat on DD's first foray out of the local parking lot. I was shaking and sweaty, and not even the one doing the teaching! I don't know if I can handle hours and hours of driving practice and not have a heart attack. There are driver's classes of course, but they are 30 hours of class and only five hours of actual driving... and it's supposed to take (according to Google) 45-60 hours of actual driving to be ready for a license. I did not get my license until I was 23 because when my mom was teaching me, she'd grab stuff and screech, and after driver's ed I was at college without a car to practice with for four years... My father-in-law taught me after I married DH... Any tips? Or tricks? Or advice on how to remain calm during driving lessons? I need them all! I wish I had some tips and tricks. My son was also relatively late to the driving game- got his license right at 18. I'm the only parent who parents in his life, so I got to be the one, and only, teacher. It was literally the most stressful thing I've ever done. I'm a Veteran, Airborne and Air Assault, and got to go on several Uncle Sam sponsored trips. I also like extreme sports lol, I don't scare easily. But, MY GOODNESS that boy must think brakes are thing that should only be used at the last second. The weeds on the right side of the road should touch the tires as they go by (I stay more center, center left when driving.) It is a badge of honor to not wait too long at an intersection... I could go on. Hopefully, your daughter will be more like my daughter. "Drove like a Grandma" from day one. LOL Seriously though, good luck! I would definitely recommend a lot of parking lot driving, and neighborhood driving before out on the roads (I think our local Lowe's unofficially doubles as a drivers ed site!) Both so they get alot of the feel of the start/stop of the car, and the distances you want them to stop before stop signs etc, and parking in spaces with lines and no cars around you is a great way to get used to the size of the car, mirrors etc. And also, just as important- so you can get a little more comfortable with them behind the wheel. Also, know whether your state requires back up cameras to be turned off during parking etc. Also, there should be a safe word, that literally means BRAKES NOW. Not "Stop" because you're about to say that a thousand times an hour. Good luck!! And... it's really nice once they are driving! It's worth it!
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Post by Basket1lady on Jul 18, 2023 4:26:29 GMT
Our "safe word" was BRAKE! You have my sympathy. DH did most of the early training as I was nervous enough that I made the kids nervous. -I recommend lots of parking lots and quiet streets without cars parked along the street or kids playing. -Sunday mornings are the best time to do your highway driving without a lot of cars when merging. -Our high school had a practice area that we used in the beginning as well. -Their classroom book had lesson plans for the practice sessions. -And when the kid was in the car, they were driving. We had way more than the 45 required hours before they took their tests. Good luck!
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Jul 18, 2023 4:34:27 GMT
My tip is pay for a private driving school. Best money I ever spent! Good luck with the lessons.
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caangel
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Post by caangel on Jul 18, 2023 4:37:38 GMT
My 16yo just had his first lesson on Sunday. She said go slow with his as he was really nervous. Uh yeah he's my "nervous Nelly" kid. Thankfully DH is willing to do his practices but on the other hand wouldn't listen to what I was telling him were the instructors recommendations. 🙄
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 18, 2023 4:38:06 GMT
I will tell you what I did.
There were ground rules we agreed to in advance. By the time the school would turn over my ds's permit we were down to six months and he had not drive .
There would no yelling by either party. It either of us got upset, it would be park the car, have a snack or refreshment until we could calmly talk it out. If not, home for a rest.
We started in an empty parking lot with some lines. Stop and start. Nothing to hit so no need hard braking. We moved on to a office building parking lot. He learned to go into parking places. Stop at the end of rows and turn corners. Mind you he was learning to drive a manual transmission.
Next was on the road to a neighborhood with little traffice, small blocks with stop signs on some corners and none in others. Still no yelling..
For five months I had a chauffer every where I needed or wanted to go. The exception, no night driving on his permit. We drove and the interstates, the NJ Turnpike, the parkway, in rain, I mean everywhere even in vacation, he drove.
If you are going to have issues and she gets upset, hirer some to go out with her. The trauma of difficulties can affect a kid for years.
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grammanisi
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Post by grammanisi on Jul 18, 2023 4:39:58 GMT
Good luck! I taught both of my sisters, oldest granddaughter and my nephew to drive . I've been told I have the patience of a saint!! We drove in the country, parking lots and the schools. My best advise is keep your cool, try not to criticize, practice often at different times of the day and as hard as it is, don't yell out!!
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Post by gar on Jul 18, 2023 5:47:15 GMT
Are you saying that kids only get 5 hours of actual professional driving tuition before their test and the rest is down to mum and dad??
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Post by snyder on Jul 18, 2023 5:50:09 GMT
I feel for you. We are going through this with grandson. He is a later driver as well. He still is hesitant and he said he's afraid, so we have not pushed him. I'm older now and probably much more jittery then I was with my son, but we ended up sending son to driving school. And knock on wood, he's a pretty darn good driver and I contribute that to the school, so I'm glad we made that decision.
Grandson studied on his own and got his learners permit so he could start practicing, but that really didn't happen and he didn't show an interest. Now he want to, but his dad is so darn busy now. We checked into the school, but they told us he couldn't do the classes because he has his permit already, and he would just do the 6 hours of drive training. I wanted him to do the classes as I think there could be a great benefit to him learning tips compared to him quickly browsing the manual when he got his permit. This Thursday, he goes for his first 2 hours of drive instruction. After that, we will see how brave I am to ride with him for practice.
Good Luck!
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Post by snyder on Jul 18, 2023 5:54:20 GMT
Are you saying that kids only get 5 hours of actual professional driving tuition before their test and the rest is down to mum and dad?? Ours is 6 hours, but in a sense that is correct. Only 6 hours and you practice with whoever will ride with you that is a licensed driver 21 and over. They can take more, but it is $130 for the 2 hours, so it can get pretty pricey. The 6 hours recommended for the license that he plans to take will cost $390 plus the cost of the lisense, which I believe is $31.00.
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Post by Neisey on Jul 18, 2023 8:55:19 GMT
After remembering my mom trying to teach me I felt confident that my choice to pay for driver training was the best one lol. While I feel I am a good driver I preferred my girls being taught by someone who followed a curriculum that covered far more than I would think to teach (I believe it was 2 days of in class training) plus actual driving hours.
Once they did their driver training I was ready to ride along while they practiced for their test.
Here if you go through driver training you get a reduction in your insurance so well worth the cost.
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Post by monklady123 on Jul 18, 2023 10:13:49 GMT
I have no advice because I was the same way you are! omg. My ds spent more of his learning-to-drive time with dh because it just worked out that way. But then when dd came along dh was really busy at work. So it fell to me. Part way into her practice time she dislocated her knee. No more driving. Obviously I didn't want her to be injured (it happened in ballet) but honestly it saved me from the terror of teaching her to drive on our Northern Virginia roads/traffic. She went off to college without a license. Her first summer home she had knee surgery, so no driving. She knew she would need a car for her junior and senior years because of her internship, but she went back sophomore year after the knee surgery still with no license. And one of her lovely wonderful nerves-of-steel roommates took it on to give dd her road time. That suited me just fine, lol. Plus, it was a rural school in a small town with not much traffic. And she was able to easily make her appointment for the driving test...up here it's usually weeks and weeks before you can get the appointment. Yay for that roommate. Who is now an elementary school teacher where she needs those nerves of steel. lol
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Post by *sprout* on Jul 18, 2023 11:21:05 GMT
My dd15 went through segment 1 of driver's training this spring. She's now getting her 30+ practice hours in so she can move to segment 2 in the late winter/spring.
As someone else said, definitely pay for the training! There is no way dd would have been as successful as she is if DH or I were teaching her. For segment 1, she had 24? hours of classroom instruction and 6 hours of driving. Each drive built upon the others (first drive was quiet neighborhood streets, then bigger side streets, then busier main streets, then highways and downtown at rush hour). The input she received from her (amazing) coaches on each drive was very beneficial. Far more so than we as parents could do.
For her practice hours, I know I am far more uptight with her behind the wheel than DH. I've had to learn how to be calm with her because if I'm a nervous wreck, she will pick up on that and then she'll be a nervous wreck. Not helpful or safe for anyone. I realized that if I started explaining the good and the not so good things, I wasn't as nervous. And she liked hearing the good things, too! She was more receptive to the input knowing that it wasn't all just negative. Each drive got better than the last,and now that she has drive 25+? hours with us, she is turning into a pretty good driver! Are there still scary moments? Absolutely! But they're getting fewer with each drive.
Good luck! It's definitely nerve wracking as a parent, but remember that it is for the beginning driver, too!
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Post by Bridget in MD on Jul 18, 2023 11:32:05 GMT
Are you saying that kids only get 5 hours of actual professional driving tuition before their test and the rest is down to mum and dad?? Ya, my kids had 3, 2 hr sessions with the driving school and the rest we kept in a log by the kids. They were supposed to have 60 hrs total I think, and 10 of those were supposed to be night hours. I feel bad bc we never really practiced on the highway, and we should really get them that practice.
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blue tulip
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Post by blue tulip on Jul 18, 2023 11:48:02 GMT
if you haven't yet, get the magnetic stickers from amazon for your car that say "please be patient, student driver". they make such a difference in the way other drivers treat you!
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Post by iluvpink on Jul 18, 2023 11:53:06 GMT
And one of her lovely wonderful nerves-of-steel roommates took it on to give dd her road time. That suited me just fine, lol. Plus, it was a rural school in a small town with not much traffic. And she was able to easily make her appointment for the driving test...up here it's usually weeks and weeks before you can get the appointment. Yay for that roommate. Who is now an elementary school teacher where she needs those nerves of steel. lol Dd didn't get her license until she was 19. She had taken a course through school at 15, but health problems made it so she couldn't practice for a few years. Dh tried to take her out on the road but he doesn't have the patience. I do not have the nerves. Eventually I was about to pay for some intensive courses and her best friend said screw it and took her out and forced her to practice with her. It worked! I did take her out some after she had more practice and finally when she took the driver's test she did just fine. Even in super heavy rain that *I* would have pulled over for!
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Post by anniebeth24 on Jul 18, 2023 11:55:43 GMT
One recommendation - have the trainee dictate what they see and are thinking as they go along. "There's a red light up ahead" or "I see that blue truck moving into my lane and I'm slowing down." "I'm turning on my left signal and I'm going to turn left after the red car goes through the intersection."
That way, you're not having to wonder about their next move. Saves a bit of the "I've got this" attitude and creates a dialog that helps you understand their knowledge and awareness level.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Jul 18, 2023 11:56:46 GMT
Beyond the mechanics of operating the vehicle, I think the most important thing to teach is defensive driving. As each of my four boys was learning, I stressed keeping their head on a swivel to monitor what was going on with cars around them. I even phrased it as, “You’re not only driving your car, you’re driving every other car on the road too.” That reflects the way I feel about my own driving - I am confident in MY driving skills, but I have zero confidence in the skills of others.
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Post by ellen on Jul 18, 2023 12:10:51 GMT
if you haven't yet, get the magnetic stickers from amazon for your car that say "please be patient, student driver". they make such a difference in the way other drivers treat you! We got this and it helped my daughter feel like other drivers would be more patient if she was doing something a little slower than they’d like. I remember my first outings with her. We were in an area where there wasn’t a lot of traffic and the speed limit was 30 mph. We’d drive the road around our lake twice. One day we’d be focusing on right turns, the next it would be lefts. Then when she felt ok with that we went on a highway to practice driving the speed limit. We kept building on it - adding on a town with stoplights. If there was a busier town that she was nervous about we’d drive there on a Sunday morning when traffic was quieter. Teaching a kid to drive in a rural area has some advantages. Someone else mentioned starting out in an empty parking lot. We did that with daughter #1. Very helpful. Our number one rule was they were not allowed to argue with us. They could respond with “Thank you for the suggestion.” Sometimes there was a lot of tone in their response, but it cut down on fighting. I was pleasantly surprised that my kids preferred to drive with me. Their dad expected them to just do everything confidently and perfectly right away. I viewed them as learners who had to do something several times to become good at it. After a while I grew to like having a chauffeur to drive me to my errands. My kids had a lot of hours done before they had to take their tests. I knew they’d pass on their first try. It’s one of those weird parenting things you have to do that I remember fondly.
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Post by wellway on Jul 18, 2023 12:19:48 GMT
if you haven't yet, get the magnetic stickers from amazon for your car that say "please be patient, student driver". they make such a difference in the way other drivers treat you! Here in the UK learner drivers legally have to display L-plates when they are driving. There are rules around the size and colour of the L-plates (red L on a white background) which have to be displayed on the front and back of the vehicle. Once a learner passes their test they can display a P plate which lets other drivers know they are a newly qualified driver and hopefully will extend them some grace if they make an error. We all had to learn at some point.
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Post by monklady123 on Jul 18, 2023 12:21:38 GMT
Beyond the mechanics of operating the vehicle, I think the most important thing to teach is defensive driving. As each of my four boys was learning, I stressed keeping their head on a swivel to monitor what was going on with cars around them. I even phrased it as, “You’re not only driving your car, you’re driving every other car on the road too.” That reflects the way I feel about my own driving - I am confident in MY driving skills, but I have zero confidence in the skills of others. Absolutely! My comment to my kids as they head off to drive somewhere (and they're both adults now and live on their own) is "watch out for the other guy". I even say it to my dh if he's driving somewhere.
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Post by cat2007 on Jul 18, 2023 12:55:55 GMT
My tip is pay for a private driving school. Best money I ever spent! Good luck with the lessons. I can't agree with this enough! After teaching 3 kids how to drive, we had enough and let someone else teach #4. Best money we ever spent and I have to say that she is a confident but careful driver.
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Post by mikklynn on Jul 18, 2023 13:05:28 GMT
One recommendation - have the trainee dictate what they see and are thinking as they go along. "There's a red light up ahead" or "I see that blue truck moving into my lane and I'm slowing down." "I'm turning on my left signal and I'm going to turn left after the red car goes through the intersection." That way, you're not having to wonder about their next move. Saves a bit of the "I've got this" attitude and creates a dialog that helps you understand their knowledge and awareness level. I love that idea. I am going to need prayers as I go through this with my grandson this year.
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Post by kristi521 on Jul 18, 2023 13:10:28 GMT
Are you saying that kids only get 5 hours of actual professional driving tuition before their test and the rest is down to mum and dad?? That is how it is around where I live - 6 hours with the instructor and then 50 hours with the parents, 10 of which need to be night time driving. I used the app Road Ready, I think it is only available for iPhones. That helps track the time and will create a driving log. You can add notes on things they need to work on/what went well for each drive, if there were any weather issues. type of road they drove on, etc.
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Post by librarylady on Jul 18, 2023 13:26:19 GMT
My tip is pay for a private driving school. Best money I ever spent! Good luck with the lessons. This ^^^
I am not sure any of us would have survived my DH teaching our son.
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Post by SallyPA on Jul 18, 2023 13:35:00 GMT
We went to a large parking lot on the weekend and had them practice maneuvering in and out of spots and fake parallel parking several times. This was a lot that had a few cars parked in it but not many. Then once they felt comfortable with that, we moved to busier spaces.
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Post by Restless Spirit on Jul 18, 2023 13:39:44 GMT
DH did the majority of the driving with our daughter ages ago.
Most of the drive time with our grandson fell to me because everyone else was working. When he turned 15, he did an online course he had to pass, then he did private driving classes. Immediately after that, there was an in car driving test he had to pass with that instructor, then he was able to get his learners permit. This gave him almost a full year to practice driving with another adult driver present. (Aka - me.)
In the beginning, he did most of his practice in parking lots, parks, and cemeteries. The winding roads where you had to go slowly in the parks and cemeteries were really good practice. When we finally went on the road, we spent a lot of time driving around suburban neighborhoods. Then we went on county roads, where there was little traffic, only a few stoplights, four-way stops and roundabouts. Then we tackled some of our larger more heavily traveled roads close to home. All of this was in areas he was very familiar with. Venturing out onto the interstate, entering and exiting was the most nerve-racking for me, but we survived. He just got his license and his car last month at 16 and 3 months after a year of driving experience. Our state has restrictions on the hours that teens can drive, mostly limiting it to daylight hours.
I am confident that he’s going to be a relatively safe driver. He really loves his car!
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Post by peabay on Jul 18, 2023 13:40:07 GMT
Four daughters - I taught tampons, dh taught driving.
I canNOT do it. At all. First time I tried we both came home in tears.
We also used a private driving school and my dh supplemented with frequent lessons from home.
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Post by shanniebananie on Jul 18, 2023 14:12:34 GMT
I absolutely feel your pain. This summer it has fallen mostly on my shoulders to help my daughter get her required 30 hours of practice. I helped with my son 4 years ago, but for some reason it is more nerve racking this time around. Though I will have to say, she has improved so much since the beginning of June that I am relaxing a bit more. She too, loves to hug the right side of the road and comes "thisclose" to hitting the curb so many times! She is getting better, but I am cringing inside. God willing, she will pass her test next week and we can move on. She definitely still needs freeway practice and night practice, but we can continue to work on that in the months to come.
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Post by The Great Carpezio on Jul 18, 2023 14:15:50 GMT
Are you saying that kids only get 5 hours of actual professional driving tuition before their test and the rest is down to mum and dad?? My sons are 15 in the state of Minnesota. (It does vary by state) They are required (if under 18) to take a 30 hour class. It can be done synchronous online or in the classroom. My kids just did the classroom in early June. It was three hours a day for ten days. There are some school districts that still offer drivers ed as a class. That how it was for me in the 80’s, but most schools no longer offer it and you must pay for private classes. (The state does certify the instructors and curriculum though) Once they have completed the class, they get a blue card. They take this to the DMV and take a computer “written” test. They must get 32/40. If they pass, they get a permit to drive. Then they want them to drive 50 hours with their parents and take six hours of “behind-the-wheel” with the instructors from the driving school. They want students to drive about 15 hours before they take their first class (two hours). Then they are supposed to drive another 15 hours or more before the second and finish their 50 hours with adults before their last session. They work on different skills and repeat old ones each time. All of this costa $500 for each student. (I think that is pretty standard in the state right now) Once they complete the six hours of instructor led driving, 50 hours of driving with adults, turned 16, and have held their permit at least six months, they can take the “behind the wheel” test to get their license. If you are 18 and over, in Minnesota, you can go straight to the behind the wheel test.
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