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Post by aj2hall on Jul 22, 2023 22:35:32 GMT
I love country music but this is not OK. Especially after his wife's transphobic post last year. His defense is pure gaslighting. He might just be an attention whore and deliberately stirring the pot, but his song & video are not the way to do it. The fact that Republicans are defending him says a lot, too. I love Sheryl Crow and her response. www.npr.org/2023/07/20/1188966935/jason-aldean-try-that-in-a-small-town-song-video
Country Music Television (CMT) says it will no longer air the music video "Try That In a Small Town" by Jason Aldean after critics of the video said it contained lyrics that glorified gun violence and conveyed traditionally racist ideas.
Gun control advocates are among the song's loudest critics, saying "Try That in a Small Town" glorifies a dangerous eye-for-an eye ethos.
Shannon Watts, founder of the group Moms Demand Action, called it an "ode to a sundown town" that suggested "people be beaten or shot for expressing free speech."
Others said the song's hints at violence were clearly racial dog whistles, zeroing in on the song's portrayal of protests like flag-burning. Tennessee state Rep. Justin Jones, a Democrat, summed it as a "heinous song calling for racist violence."www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/2023/07/20/jason-aldean-song-video-pulled-cmt-controversy/Country music star Jason Aldean is facing immense backlash over his new music video “Try That in a Small Town,” which combines news footage of Black Lives Matter protests, violence and crime with lyrics such as:
“Try that in a small town/ See how far ya make it down the road/ Around here, we take care of our own.”
“Got a gun that my granddad gave me/ They say one day they’re gonna round up/ Well that s--- might fly in the city/ Good luck.”
“Cuss out a cop, spit in his face/ Stomp on the flag and light it up/ Yeah, ya think you’re tough,” he sings, and at another point:
“Try that in a small town/ Full of good ol’ boys, raised up right/ If you’re looking for a fight.”
Some who accuse the video of racism point to its setting in downtown Columbia — the site of historical acts of violence against Black people.
The singer, however, has stood by the song and its video. “In the past 24 hours I have been accused of releasing a pro-lynching song … and was subject to the comparison that I (direct quote) was not too pleased with the nationwide [Black Lives Matter] protests,” Aldean tweeted Tuesday. “These references are not only meritless, but dangerous. There is not a single lyric in the song that references race or points to it- and there isn’t a single video clip that isn’t real news footage -and while I can try and respect others to have their own interpretation of a song with music- this one goes too far.”
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 22, 2023 22:40:58 GMT
Oh yea. It’s big up here. Living in the red neck part of MN. So much gaslighting. There is nothing in the song that’s racist. Blah blah. Funny thing, the song was toast on the charts, but now 2 months later, it’s number one after that video. Geee.
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Post by chaosisapony on Jul 22, 2023 22:43:41 GMT
It's all anyone is talking about here, probably because I'm in a very rural rednecky part of the world. Personally, I just don't think it's a good song.
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Post by Merge on Jul 22, 2023 23:44:41 GMT
Oh yea. It’s big up here. Living in the red neck part of MN. So much gaslighting. There is nothing in the song that’s racist. Blah blah. Funny thing, the song was toast on the charts, but now 2 months later, it’s number one after that video. Geee. The video adds a lot of the racist overtone IMO. |
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Post by MerryMom on Jul 22, 2023 23:49:01 GMT
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Post by AussieMeg on Jul 22, 2023 23:50:22 GMT
Ew. I'm not a country music fan, so I've never heard of Jason Aldean or his wife. The fact that his song mentions "good ol' boys" as being a good thing tells me all I need to know.
I clicked on a link in one of the articles in the OP, to his wife's clothing store. Ain't she a real peach? For just $30 you can buy a pretty pastel t-shirt with the slogan "Mamas don't let your babies grow up to be liberals." I wonder if the other side says "Instead raise them to be racist homophobic little fuckers."
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jul 22, 2023 23:59:25 GMT
I truly hate that he's getting free publicity over this. Never heard of him, no one in my family has ever heard of him, but suddenly he's news because he put out an offensive video. The stupid MAGNA crowd will lap it up and turn a mediocre song into a hit - yuck.
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Post by epeanymous on Jul 23, 2023 0:03:24 GMT
I often wonder if anyone self-reflects on why their gut-level response when someone is accused of racism is to double down on the person's behalf.
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Post by littlemama on Jul 23, 2023 0:06:28 GMT
What a sicko he is
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 23, 2023 0:15:06 GMT
I haven’t heard the song and don’t listen to coy try music. What I have heard of the lyrics and the videos location told me enough. Not surprised at all that republicans/rednecks are doubling down on it and even posting more racist comments when there is criticism of the song. That is who they are. He represents their values, just like trump and the rest of the deplorables.
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Post by pinklady on Jul 23, 2023 0:41:09 GMT
Jason and Brittany Aldean are the epitome of groomers. They are both vile disgusting humans.
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Post by TXMary on Jul 23, 2023 1:43:49 GMT
Didn’t he cheat on his first wife with Brittney? He’s disgusting.
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Post by withapea on Jul 23, 2023 1:52:28 GMT
Trash guy releases dogwhistle song and propaganda music video. He’s gross and so are his apologists.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 23, 2023 3:23:19 GMT
Funny thing is, he didn’t grow up in a small town, never lived in one, orrr even written a country song.
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Post by dawnnikol on Jul 23, 2023 12:07:55 GMT
He's a POS and so is his wife.
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Post by mikklynn on Jul 23, 2023 12:29:09 GMT
Ew. I'm not a country music fan, so I've never heard of Jason Aldean or his wife. The fact that his song mentions "good ol' boys" as being a good thing tells me all I need to know. I clicked on a link in one of the articles in the OP, to his wife's clothing store. Ain't she a real peach? For just $30 you can buy a pretty pastel t-shirt with the slogan "Mamas don't let your babies grow up to be liberals." I wonder if the other side says "Instead raise them to be racist homophobic little fuckers." I love you, AussieMeg ! They are both truly awful. I'd love to see some cancel culture here. |
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Post by alsomsknit on Jul 23, 2023 13:03:59 GMT
I have been flabbergasted over the term “good old’ boy” being a positive. It has never been a positive description in my circles. Boy, do I live in the land of “good ol’ boys.” The HS parking lot was always interesting.
Have not heard the song or seen the video. Don’t care to. If people who are victims of racism are decrying it as racist, I believe them.
Small town and good old days seem rather synonymous. They are only good for certain people. “Taking care of their own” Ahmad Aubrey was a victim of said “good ol’ boys” taking care of their own.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Jul 23, 2023 14:33:21 GMT
I saw a TikTok that shows lots (if not all) of the footage in the video is actually international conflicts, not US. He's a fucker.
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Post by pantsonfire on Jul 23, 2023 14:49:16 GMT
Have a feeling this will become the theme song for Moms of Liberty, Let Them Breathe, Leave Our Kids Alone, and all the other homophobic, racist hate groups attacking public ed.
Gross person and even grosser song.
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Post by Gravity on Jul 23, 2023 14:53:48 GMT
Jason and his wife are both trash IMO.
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Post by naby64 on Jul 23, 2023 15:22:10 GMT
I truly hate that he's getting free publicity over this. Never heard of him, no one in my family has ever heard of him, but suddenly he's news because he put out an offensive video. The stupid MAGNA crowd will lap it up and turn a mediocre song into a hit - yuck. he was the person in concert at the Las Vegas shooting. |
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Post by luckyjune on Jul 23, 2023 16:27:38 GMT
That song is gross.
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Post by finsup on Jul 23, 2023 16:46:50 GMT
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Post by iowgirl on Jul 23, 2023 17:10:43 GMT
I fluctuate on this one. I'm not a Jason Aldean fan, or a huge fan of this type of music in general. I don't like Toby Keith 'boot up your ss" songs either. I also thing CardiB's WAP and some other rap songs that are incredibly racist and hate filled are terrible too. I would probably be considered far left, by most of my friends and neighbors, lol - but I feel like I am a down the center line moderate. But I am from a small town, all my life. There are things that resonate. Cheryl Crow is from a town of 10,000. That's 5 times as large as the town I live near, which is 4 times larger than the town I grew up in. We are not going to put up with some of what we see happening in cities. If someone comes to my house/farm with the intent to harm or thieve, there are consequences. There was a couple gals that had a pill problem, and they were teaming up to enter houses and rifle through everyone's medicine cabinet. One gal would call the other when she could see that a whole family was at a ball game or out too eat, so the other gal could go in and look for pills. They know who had knee surgery or cancer and would have pills. They would bypass jewelry and cash and only wanted the pills. They were good, and this went on for a long time. Finally someone got a pretty good look at the van one of them drove on security video (this was a couple years ago, so the cameras were not as good as now, and not everyone had a ring doorbell). Once the basic description of the van was out there - the farmers and ranchers kept an eye out. The local law said they had it under control, but nothing was ever done. One guy saw her pull into a farm she shouldn't have been at. Busted. But it took people who had been ripped off and had some security videos they could post online before the Law would step in. Seriously. They said there was nothing they could do, since they hadn't witnessed her doing it. But once that 'small town' posse kicked in they had to deal with her. So many people posted their images while they were breaking into their houses, onto Facebook, the Law had to do something. Same for a local guy getting a bunch of copper wire stolen from his business during the middle of the DAY! He saw the video, knew where the tweaker lived and went and had a chat. He was definitely armed, but he didn't draw down. But he had the deputies hot footing it out there, when before they wouldn't respond. My neighbor died and her house was ransacked. So many things stolen. Does the Sheriff know who did it. Yes. Can her family get anything back? No. They don't have solid proof it was the person that did it. Ha. This guy is a part of the same crowd that steals everything around here. Nothing NOTHNG happens with law enforcement. They simply say "we can't do anything at this time". Someone else got broke into and a 4 wheeler was stolen. You know what they did. They didn't call the sheriff. They went to this @ssholes house and stole their own property back. Not alone, but with some backup. Told the dude he better not ever step foot on their property again, or he would never be found. That is what happens in a small town now. There isn't one single racial implication behind any of it. |
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Post by theshyone on Jul 23, 2023 17:24:48 GMT
I fluctuate on this one. I'm not a Jason Aldean fan, or a huge fan of this type of music in general. I don't like Toby Keith 'boot up your ss " songs either. I also thing CardiB's WAP and some other rap songs that are incredibly racist and hate filled are terrible too. I would probably be considered far left, by most of my friends and neighbors, lol - but I feel like I am a down the center line moderate. But I am from a small town, all my life. There are things that resonate. Cheryl Crow is from a town of 10,000. That's 5 times as large as the town I live near, which is 4 times larger than the town I grew up in. We are not going to put up with some of what we see happening in cities. If someone comes to my house/farm with the intent to harm or thieve, there are consequences. There was a couple gals that had a pill problem, and they were teaming up to enter houses and rifle through everyone's medicine cabinet. One gal would call the other when she could see that a whole family was at a ball game or out too eat, so the other gal could go in and look for pills. They know who had knee surgery or cancer and would have pills. They would bypass jewelry and cash and only wanted the pills. They were good, and this went on for a long time. Finally someone got a pretty good look at the van one of them drove on security video (this was a couple years ago, so the cameras were not as good as now, and not everyone had a ring doorbell). Once the basic description of the van was out there - the farmers and ranchers kept an eye out. The local law said they had it under control, but nothing was ever done. One guy saw her pull into a farm she shouldn't have been at. Busted. But it took people who had been ripped off and had some security videos they could post online before the Law would step in. Seriously. They said there was nothing they could do, since they hadn't witnessed her doing it. But once that 'small town' posse kicked in they had to deal with her. So many people posted their images while they were breaking into their houses, onto Facebook, the Law had to do something. Same for a local guy getting a bunch of copper wire stolen from his business during the middle of the DAY! He saw the video, knew where the tweaker lived and went and had a chat. He was definitely armed, but he didn't draw down. But he had the deputies hot footing it out there, when before they wouldn't respond. My neighbor died and her house was ransacked. So many things stolen. Does the Sheriff know who did it. Yes. Can her family get anything back? No. They don't have solid proof it was the person that did it. Ha. This guy is a part of the same crowd that steals everything around here. Nothing NOTHNG happens with law enforcement. They simply say "we can't do anything at this time". Someone else got broke into and a 4 wheeler was stolen. You know what they did. They didn't call the sheriff. They went to this @ssholes house and stole their own property back. Not alone, but with some backup. Told the dude he better not ever step foot on their property again, or he would never be found. That is what happens in a small town now. There isn't one single racial implication behind any of it. When I first heard the song, prior to seeing the video, I too thought it was about the surge in small town crime and farmers having enough. Drug crimes are huge out in the country near us. I Didn’t care for the song, and hadn’t given it any more thought. Then some maga people started posting it, and wow, it’s not what I thought at all. Who wrote it, and what were original intentions? |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 23, 2023 17:30:23 GMT
I fluctuate on this one. I'm not a Jason Aldean fan, or a huge fan of this type of music in general. I don't like Toby Keith 'boot up your ss" songs either. I also thing CardiB's WAP and some other rap songs that are incredibly racist and hate filled are terrible too. I would probably be considered far left, by most of my friends and neighbors, lol - but I feel like I am a down the center line moderate. But I am from a small town, all my life. There are things that resonate. Cheryl Crow is from a town of 10,000. That's 5 times as large as the town I live near, which is 4 times larger than the town I grew up in. We are not going to put up with some of what we see happening in cities. If someone comes to my house/farm with the intent to harm or thieve, there are consequences. There was a couple gals that had a pill problem, and they were teaming up to enter houses and rifle through everyone's medicine cabinet. One gal would call the other when she could see that a whole family was at a ball game or out too eat, so the other gal could go in and look for pills. They know who had knee surgery or cancer and would have pills. They would bypass jewelry and cash and only wanted the pills. They were good, and this went on for a long time. Finally someone got a pretty good look at the van one of them drove on security video (this was a couple years ago, so the cameras were not as good as now, and not everyone had a ring doorbell). Once the basic description of the van was out there - the farmers and ranchers kept an eye out. The local law said they had it under control, but nothing was ever done. One guy saw her pull into a farm she shouldn't have been at. Busted. But it took people who had been ripped off and had some security videos they could post online before the Law would step in. Seriously. They said there was nothing they could do, since they hadn't witnessed her doing it. But once that 'small town' posse kicked in they had to deal with her. So many people posted their images while they were breaking into their houses, onto Facebook, the Law had to do something. Same for a local guy getting a bunch of copper wire stolen from his business during the middle of the DAY! He saw the video, knew where the tweaker lived and went and had a chat. He was definitely armed, but he didn't draw down. But he had the deputies hot footing it out there, when before they wouldn't respond. My neighbor died and her house was ransacked. So many things stolen. Does the Sheriff know who did it. Yes. Can her family get anything back? No. They don't have solid proof it was the person that did it. Ha. This guy is a part of the same crowd that steals everything around here. Nothing NOTHNG happens with law enforcement. They simply say "we can't do anything at this time". Someone else got broke into and a 4 wheeler was stolen. You know what they did. They didn't call the sheriff. They went to this @ssholes house and stole their own property back. Not alone, but with some backup. Told the dude he better not ever step foot on their property again, or he would never be found. That is what happens in a small town now. There isn't one single racial implication behind any of it. So basically you are saying that the same things ARE happening in small towns, right? That’s nice that people were caught by the posse but there have been a lot of problems with “small town” thinking where people get shot at or killed because they are turning down the wrong driveway, knocking on someone’s door, jogging while black, etc. racism isn’t the only problem with this song. |
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Post by Jennifer C on Jul 23, 2023 17:48:18 GMT
I fluctuate on this one. I'm not a Jason Aldean fan, or a huge fan of this type of music in general. I don't like Toby Keith 'boot up your ss " songs either. I also thing CardiB's WAP and some other rap songs that are incredibly racist and hate filled are terrible too. I would probably be considered far left, by most of my friends and neighbors, lol - but I feel like I am a down the center line moderate. But I am from a small town, all my life. There are things that resonate. Cheryl Crow is from a town of 10,000. That's 5 times as large as the town I live near, which is 4 times larger than the town I grew up in. We are not going to put up with some of what we see happening in cities. If someone comes to my house/farm with the intent to harm or thieve, there are consequences. There was a couple gals that had a pill problem, and they were teaming up to enter houses and rifle through everyone's medicine cabinet. One gal would call the other when she could see that a whole family was at a ball game or out too eat, so the other gal could go in and look for pills. They know who had knee surgery or cancer and would have pills. They would bypass jewelry and cash and only wanted the pills. They were good, and this went on for a long time. Finally someone got a pretty good look at the van one of them drove on security video (this was a couple years ago, so the cameras were not as good as now, and not everyone had a ring doorbell). Once the basic description of the van was out there - the farmers and ranchers kept an eye out. The local law said they had it under control, but nothing was ever done. One guy saw her pull into a farm she shouldn't have been at. Busted. But it took people who had been ripped off and had some security videos they could post online before the Law would step in. Seriously. They said there was nothing they could do, since they hadn't witnessed her doing it. But once that 'small town' posse kicked in they had to deal with her. So many people posted their images while they were breaking into their houses, onto Facebook, the Law had to do something. Same for a local guy getting a bunch of copper wire stolen from his business during the middle of the DAY! He saw the video, knew where the tweaker lived and went and had a chat. He was definitely armed, but he didn't draw down. But he had the deputies hot footing it out there, when before they wouldn't respond. My neighbor died and her house was ransacked. So many things stolen. Does the Sheriff know who did it. Yes. Can her family get anything back? No. They don't have solid proof it was the person that did it. Ha. This guy is a part of the same crowd that steals everything around here. Nothing NOTHNG happens with law enforcement. They simply say "we can't do anything at this time". Someone else got broke into and a 4 wheeler was stolen. You know what they did. They didn't call the sheriff. They went to this @ssholes house and stole their own property back. Not alone, but with some backup. Told the dude he better not ever step foot on their property again, or he would never be found. That is what happens in a small town now. There isn't one single racial implication behind any of it. I'm from a small town and I agree with you. We take care of our neighbors. Jennifer |
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Post by dawnnikol on Jul 23, 2023 18:20:00 GMT
Nobody who dislikes this song is saying you shouldn't be able to take care of your neighbors. That is also not something that only happens in small towns. There are many videos out there to explain why this song is problematic - especially when you put it into context with the video.
Jason Aldean didn't even write this song. He's a wannabe country boy, who gets to wear a cowboy hat and sing to his adoring, racist masses, while playing the victim in his mansion.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 23, 2023 18:34:14 GMT
I grew up in a small town of less than 10,000, went to college in a small town and have lived in a town of 4,000 for the last 15 years. I understand the loyalty to small towns. I love that when I go to the library, the librarian knows me by my first name and asks about my boys by name. We can't go to the recycling center without running into someone we know. And I love that whenever something bad happens, we rally around and support each other. I understand the community, loyalty, support and perks of living in a small town. And I'm a big fan of country music. My objection is the overt racial message that small towns are safe places, cities are not. The song is basically about small towns defending themselves from outsiders. It only adds to the rural/ city divide and falsely creates a moral one - cities are immoral, places of crime, promiscuity, financial ruin etc. The picture that the song paints of city folks invading the country, bringing violence with them, carjacking, pulling a gun on a store owner sounds a lot like Republicans railing against immigrants (invasions, bringing drugs across border, they're rapists, murderrs etc). The call for vigilante justice is really dangerous. The thread of defending small towns from big cities and the people in them ties into Republican efforts in Texas to control voting in Democratic counties or Tthe Republican controlled state legislature trying to exert control over Nashville. www.npr.org/2023/07/22/1188908968/jason-aldean-small-town-vs-cityAs Andrea Williams, a Nashville-based author, journalist and cultural critic, told me, "The video reflects a desire to control the actions of people in and outside of these towns, people who have grown tired of the exclusionary, oppressive antics of Aldean and his ilk — people who are, most often, Black."And this opinion writer has an excellent point. "For a second if you could, take away the left or right, liberal or conservative and ponder this question: Is the only way to push our values to fearmonger about the other side?"http://instagram.com/p/Cu7a8aMrZO0
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 23, 2023 18:51:25 GMT
This is not about the artist being misunderstood, people over-reacting etc. The song is more than just about standing up to crime. The videos might be real events (although some apparently are not from the US), but it doesn't justify the way the video and lyrics are edited, including the site of a lynching etc. The sound and video sound a lot like the conservative push back to the Black Lives Matter protests, attempts to blame antifa etc.
Jason Aldean's excuses that he didn't write the lyrics, he didn't choose the location etc. are just that - excuses. His name is on the song and the video. Instead of acknowledging mistakes or pulling the video, he doubled down. He knew exactly what he was doing when he recorded the song and video. Just look at his past history.
His song has the overt message that small towns should stand up and defend themselves from cities and people that live in them.
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