RedSquirrelUK
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Location: The UK's beautiful West Country
Aug 2, 2014 13:03:45 GMT
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on Aug 1, 2023 14:57:24 GMT
Where I live, there's a big drive (pun fully intended) to get cars off the roads, but our public transport system is, well give me a moment to think of a polite description here... Our town's railway was closed in the 1960s and the town and the council have been arguing over putting it back ever since. Our nearest railway station, for a town of 30,000, is 6 miles away with a car park for about 30 cars. The bus service has been reducing in frequency and reliability at pretty much the same rate as the increase in population and cost. What is the public transport system like where you live? Are you rural or urban? Do you use it? ETA: I tried to edit the poll but it wouldn't let me. "Train" is intended to encompass overground/underground/metro/subway/tube/MRT - whatever you call it.
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sueg
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Post by sueg on Aug 1, 2023 15:02:42 GMT
I currently live in Munich, Germany. We have a really good, well integrated public transport system, with buses, trams, subway and above ground suburban trains. I don’t drive here. I walk or I take public transport. I can get to two different bus stops within 10 minutes walk from home and both take me to a station with both subway and above ground trains to the city. The buses and trains run every 10 minutes, except late at night and on Sundays. I have a subscription for a monthly ticket - it’s cheaper that way - and definitely get my money’s worth from it.
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milocat
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Location: 55 degrees north in Alberta, Canada
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Post by milocat on Aug 1, 2023 15:06:08 GMT
There is no public transportation here.
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SweetieBsMom
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Jun 25, 2014 19:55:12 GMT
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Aug 1, 2023 15:06:15 GMT
I commuted for 16 years by train to Boston. I grew up in a suburb of Boston so routinely used buses/trains to get around. I took 2 public busses to get to high school. Where I live now there is very little public transportation.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Aug 1, 2023 15:08:08 GMT
There is no public transportation here. Same for me.
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Post by peano on Aug 1, 2023 15:08:23 GMT
we have no public transport.
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Post by monklady123 on Aug 1, 2023 15:12:39 GMT
I chose "train" although it's actually the subway, not an above-ground train like the kind that goes between cities. Yes, I take it when I go into DC because you couldn't pay me enough to drive into that city. Otherwise here in Northern Virginia I drive to wherever I need to go. We have good public bus routes but I've never needed to take one.
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Post by myshelly on Aug 1, 2023 15:13:07 GMT
There is no public transportation in my city.
I do not like or use public transportation.
I love having a car. We visited DC, Boston, and NYC this summer and never once used pubic transportation.
I want to walk from my air conditioned house to my air conditioned car, drive to my destination, park directly at my destination, and walk into my air conditioned destination. I do not want to live in a walking town. I don’t want to be in a confined area with other people. I don’t want to smell their smells and hear their sounds and feel their movements. I want to be in my own bubble (my car) with a physical barrier between me and other people.
I’ve mentioned on other threads that public transportation is actually a political issue here. Suburbs fight buses being able to come into their city and city council members and mayors actually run on whether they support or oppose bus service for the city. I remember when I was a kid bus service was trying to expand into the suburb I lived in then and it was a huge fight and my parents and all my friends’ parents were vehemently against it to the point that we all participated in protests against it. So, it’s a deep rooted prejudice against public transportation for me.
I do understand the need for public transportation in a big city like NYC where there just isn’t parking and isn’t enough room for everyone to have a car. But here, 100% buses are for poor people and there is a stigma that goes with it.
There is extremely limited rail service. If I were going to a concert in Dallas I could drive a few suburbs over, park, and ride the rail into Dallas. But I would rather drive. There is no amount of traffic or high price of parking that would make me want to ride the rail instead of driving.
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snyder
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Post by snyder on Aug 1, 2023 15:13:55 GMT
I live in a county of 750,000 people and we have almost no public transportion. A few bus lines on the major thoroughfares and some taxi, uber type rides are our only transportation. A few years back when gas prices were sky high, my son was taking some classes at the community college. He would have had to walk 3/4 mile to the bussstop and would have had to make two bus changes, which each change was an extra fair. It would have taken 1 hour and 50 minutes to get to the collge. No thank you, I won't pay a total of $16.0 and spend 9 hours traveling to take a 2 hour class twice a week.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Aug 1, 2023 15:27:24 GMT
Public transportation in my city, the 4th largest in the US, is a joke. This is the land of big cars and even larger freeways, with more lanes being added all the time. For example, I live 10 min. from downtown which is considered very close in. If I were to take the bus, it would require 3 buses and take an hour, with very infrequent runs. There are no other options. What improvements they have made are aimed at those who live out in the far suburbs. We've lived in Paris and loved the public transportation there and took it everywhere. Same for our time in San Francisco. I'd love to see more options developed here, but doubt seriously I'll ever see it.
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wellway
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Jun 25, 2014 20:50:09 GMT
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Post by wellway on Aug 1, 2023 15:28:19 GMT
Well, when I lived in London,the bus and tube was the best way to get quickly around the city. When I moved out to the countryside but still worked in London, I commuted by train for a few years. I had to drive to the train station and catch the train. I didn't miss the commute when I stopped.
Now, the bus service in our village has been reduced to a single bus once a week to the local town with the return journey a few hours later.
When we visited the Netherlands, I was very impressed with their infrastructure for bikes, buses, trains and cars. We saw bus stops in the countryside with parking for bikes and cars so people could travel by bus to the nearby town. The Dutch have bike use down to a fine art, seeing a guy cycling down a city street with his hand stretched behind to keep a box of full wine bottles on the carrier above his back wheel was a vision! Could learn lots from them.
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Post by katlady on Aug 1, 2023 15:28:26 GMT
In the past, I used train, bus, trolley, and even a ferry to go to work. The ferry was an experimental business venture that did not last long. But, my coworkers that lived near me and I decided to try it once. I also used to belong to a vanpool. When I went to Junior and Senior high school, I rode the public bus. As a kid, I used to go shopping downtown with my mom and we took the bus.
Now, it is too difficult to get to my current work location using public transportation. It would take a couple of hours, vs less than an hour by car. In the area I live there is public transportation, but it is not convenient for doing errands and shopping.
I have no problems with using public transportation. Sometimes I even wished I lived in a city where a car was not needed. I do love the convenience of a car of course, but if there was good public transportation around, I would use it.
ETA - For the poll, I voted for what I have used in the past, not what I use now.
Oh, just remembered, if we are going to Petco Park for a game, or the convention center for something like Comic Con, we take the train and transfer to the trolley, which stops right outside these venues. So convenient and the parking at the train stations is free.
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Rhondito
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Post by Rhondito on Aug 1, 2023 15:41:11 GMT
No public transportation where I live.
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Post by ~summer~ on Aug 1, 2023 15:48:37 GMT
I take Bart frequently. I used to commute to work every day on it… As a kid I took the public bus and Bart everywhere.
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Post by scraphappy0501 on Aug 1, 2023 15:50:16 GMT
We have limited public transportation where I live (suburbs of a medium-sized city). There is bus service but it isn't convenient due to the way the routes are designed and the timing. There is a commuter train into the city however they closed the station closest to me so it would take me 15-20 minutes to drive to the next closest station. There is light rail in the city that goes out to a few close-in suburbs and to the airport.
I currently work remotely from home but when I worked at a physical location it was in a semi-rural area with no public transportation so driving was my only option. I don't often travel into the city but on the rare occasions that I do I drive. The commuter train is expensive compared to my cost of driving (I have a plug-in electric hybrid vehicle so fuel costs are low). I wouldn't be opposed to taking the train if the cost was lower (in my opinion it is expensive compared to the cost of similar transportation in/near larger cities.)
I've used public transportation in London, Paris and San Francisco/Oakland in the past and have had good experiences. I probably wouldn't take BART in the Bay Area anymore - I've heard it has become dangerous and the conditions on the train aren't the best. We were in Paris earlier this summer and took the Metro and RER. Both had convenient times (frequent enough service), were good experiences and I wouldn't hesitate to use them again. Same with the Underground in London - convenient and good experiences.
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Post by gar on Aug 1, 2023 15:56:15 GMT
I just don't think to get the bus although I could sometimes...it's a reasonable service where I am semi-rurally and pretty cheap.
We often look at going places by train but it's SO expensive that mostly it's cheaper to drive and pay for the petrol and parking.
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Post by JoP on Aug 1, 2023 15:57:33 GMT
We have a local train station a mile away from where I live. We have a bus service that runs every 20 minutes into the local town and another service that runs every 40 minutes to the nearest city 7 miles away. I walk to the local train station to get to the mainline station when I'm travelling to London, Exeter or West Wales - I purchased a senior railcard to get 1/3rd off mainline fares. I use the bus service quite frequently as I now have a senior bus pass and travel for free
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iluvpink
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Location: Michigan
Jul 13, 2014 12:40:31 GMT
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Post by iluvpink on Aug 1, 2023 16:02:41 GMT
No, I live suburban/rural. The only public transport we have is a branch of the county bus service for the elderly/disabled. The slightly larger town next door utilizes that bus service for the same reason and also has I think twice daily bus service to a couple of larger nearby towns for workers.
But really in my state, for the most part bus service is all there is for regular daily commuters.
I was amazed recently when we visited Italy. The train system is so easy to use and while I'm sure it has it's faults/doesn't go everywhere, it sure does seem to be great for commuters.
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Post by wordyphotogbabe on Aug 1, 2023 16:03:54 GMT
While I technically live within my city's limits, the bus does not come out this far. The nearest stop is probably a mile or two away but I'm not always physically capable of walking that distance (let alone the walk back to the house afterwards). The county I live in has four cities but only two have public transportation. My kids' school district does bus its students so both ride the bus during the school year.
We do have a regional airport that is the last stop on a train route to Major City. We take this train to Major City once a year or so if we're going someplace close to one of its stations. Right now, it's a bit of a pain as they've been doing construction on it for the last two years so you have to be bussed between two stations in the middle of the trip.
We have flown twice in the last three years.
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Post by christine58 on Aug 1, 2023 16:04:47 GMT
There is no public transportation here. Here either. Used public transport when I’ve gone to other cities such as New York or Chicago or Atlanta, etc. But where I live here we do not have public transport, so that’s why I chose only plane
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Post by MichyM on Aug 1, 2023 16:08:12 GMT
There is no public transportation in my city. I do not like or use public transportation. I love having a car. We visited DC, Boston, and NYC this summer and never once used pubic transportation. I want to walk from my air conditioned house to my air conditioned car, drive to my destination, park directly at my destination, and walk into my air conditioned destination. I do not want to live in a walking town. I don’t want to be in a confined area with other people. I don’t want to smell their smells and hear their sounds and feel their movements. I want to be in my own bubble (my car) with a physical barrier between me and other people. I’ve mentioned on other threads that public transportation is actually a political issue here. Suburbs fight buses being able to come into their city and city council members and mayors actually run on whether they support or oppose bus service for the city. I remember when I was a kid bus service was trying to expand into the suburb I lived in then and it was a huge fight and my parents and all my friends’ parents were vehemently against it to the point that we all participated in protests against it. So, it’s a deep rooted prejudice against public transportation for me. I do understand the need for public transportation in a big city like NYC where there just isn’t parking and isn’t enough room for everyone to have a car. But here, 100% buses are for poor people and there is a stigma that goes with it. There is extremely limited rail service. If I were going to a concert in Dallas I could drive a few suburbs over, park, and ride the rail into Dallas. But I would rather drive. There is no amount of traffic or high price of parking that would make me want to ride the rail instead of driving. This entire post has really enlightened me to your issues after all these years. I’m genuinely sorry that you have so many of them. And your *buses are for poor people* remark. Why SHOULD people without a car do without public transportation. Serious question.
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Post by myshelly on Aug 1, 2023 16:15:09 GMT
There is no public transportation in my city. I do not like or use public transportation. I love having a car. We visited DC, Boston, and NYC this summer and never once used pubic transportation. I want to walk from my air conditioned house to my air conditioned car, drive to my destination, park directly at my destination, and walk into my air conditioned destination. I do not want to live in a walking town. I don’t want to be in a confined area with other people. I don’t want to smell their smells and hear their sounds and feel their movements. I want to be in my own bubble (my car) with a physical barrier between me and other people. I’ve mentioned on other threads that public transportation is actually a political issue here. Suburbs fight buses being able to come into their city and city council members and mayors actually run on whether they support or oppose bus service for the city. I remember when I was a kid bus service was trying to expand into the suburb I lived in then and it was a huge fight and my parents and all my friends’ parents were vehemently against it to the point that we all participated in protests against it. So, it’s a deep rooted prejudice against public transportation for me. I do understand the need for public transportation in a big city like NYC where there just isn’t parking and isn’t enough room for everyone to have a car. But here, 100% buses are for poor people and there is a stigma that goes with it. There is extremely limited rail service. If I were going to a concert in Dallas I could drive a few suburbs over, park, and ride the rail into Dallas. But I would rather drive. There is no amount of traffic or high price of parking that would make me want to ride the rail instead of driving. This entire post has really enlightened me to your issues after all these years. I’m genuinely sorry that you have so many of them. And your *buses are for poor people* remark. Why SHOULD people without a car do without public transportation. Serious question. I live in a car city. I just do. If you want to live here, it’s expected that you have a car. If you don’t have a car, choose a more walkable city or a city with buses. I get that that is a privileged and entitled statement. I get that it’s not fair. I get that it’s classist and elitist and whatever else. BUT I also get that it is what keeps my suburb the way it is compared to the way the suburbs with bus service are.
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Post by stampnscrap1128 on Aug 1, 2023 16:18:03 GMT
What little bus service we have here is no where close to where I live.
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Post by lainey on Aug 1, 2023 16:19:31 GMT
I use the bus and train a lot *weeps in poor*
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Post by lainey on Aug 1, 2023 16:20:42 GMT
This entire post has really enlightened me to your issues after all these years. I’m genuinely sorry that you have so many of them. And your *buses are for poor people* remark. Why SHOULD people without a car do without public transportation. Serious question. I live in a car city. I just do. If you want to live here, it’s expected that you have a car. If you don’t have a car, choose a more walkable city or a city with buses. I get that that is a privileged and entitled statement. I get that it’s not fair. I get that it’s classist and elitist and whatever else. BUT I also get that it is what keeps my suburb the way it is compared to the way the suburbs with bus service are. You're such a giant prick I'm surprised you haven't burst your own bubble yet.
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Post by ~summer~ on Aug 1, 2023 16:21:24 GMT
I am the complete opposite- my goal is to live where I can walk, bike or Uber everywhere. I love to go days without even getting in my car.
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Post by MichyM on Aug 1, 2023 16:23:35 GMT
This entire post has really enlightened me to your issues after all these years. I’m genuinely sorry that you have so many of them. And your *buses are for poor people* remark. Why SHOULD people without a car do without public transportation. Serious question. I live in a car city. I just do. If you want to live here, it’s expected that you have a car. If you don’t have a car, choose a more walkable city or a city with buses. I get that that is a privileged and entitled statement. I get that it’s not fair. I get that it’s classist and elitist and whatever else. BUT I also get that it is what keeps my suburb the way it is compared to the way the suburbs with bus service are. In your eyes, what is the difference between your suburb without public transportation (I assume of any kind including rides to the dr for the elderly) and suburbs with public transportation?
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Post by librarylady on Aug 1, 2023 16:23:54 GMT
I have never ridden a city bus in the US. I have on my travels to Europe.
In Dallas I have ridden the light rail to the state Fair for several years. I can park (free) in a station about 2 miles from home. The train stops at the front gate to the fair. I qualify for senior discount. Cheap and convenient.
Lately there has been some youth causing trouble on the train, but I have not seen it.
Public transportation in Dallas is so impractical that I would have never been able to use it for work. Unless it has changed in recent years, all routes go downtown. From there, one can transfer to another route. The routes are like spokes on a wheel, going to the hub.
If I had wanted to use it, I would have had to leave my home, go downtown, change to another bus, transfer again and go to the school. The school where I worked for 10 years has no public transportation anywhere near the town, let alone the school.
For all purposes, Dallas doesn't have a convenient public transportation system.
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Post by playingcinderella on Aug 1, 2023 16:25:35 GMT
Public transportation doesn't exist in my semi-rural town so its just not an option but when we travel, I am happy not driving and relying on public transit. I would love to move somewhere with accessible and reliable public transit.
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Post by Merge on Aug 1, 2023 16:30:36 GMT
Public transportation in my city, the 4th largest in the US, is a joke. This is the land of big cars and even larger freeways, with more lanes being added all the time. For example, I live 10 min. from downtown which is considered very close in. If I were to take the bus, it would require 3 buses and take an hour, with very infrequent runs. There are no other options. What improvements they have made are aimed at those who live out in the far suburbs. We've lived in Paris and loved the public transportation there and took it everywhere. Same for our time in San Francisco. I'd love to see more options developed here, but doubt seriously I'll ever see it. Yes, it’s ridiculous how poor our public transportation is, in a metro area with more than 7 million people in it. We are currently enjoying the frequent, efficient, and clean trams and trains of Australia’s largest cities. So easy and inexpensive. But it requires political investment and not just a reliance on profit motivations for building new things. Something Texas does not have.
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