|
Post by cadoodlebug on Aug 11, 2023 14:13:04 GMT
Happy Friday! At Newcomer’s Creative Crafters yesterday I started my tea-light globe. I had to leave before I finished but will work on it while I watch Big Brother today. I can't remember if I mentioned we are replacing the flooring in our two guest bathrooms. Yesterday we hired a contractor and they will install the new flooring on Monday! Can’t wait. Tonight, we’ll be dining on pork chops, yams and a fruit salad. Any big plans for the weekend? DH will be watching the FedEx Cup golf tournament and I will be working in my craft room. At some point I need to decide what I'll be working on at my 4-day crop in October. What’s on your menu for tonight?
|
|
|
Post by stormsts on Aug 11, 2023 14:23:56 GMT
Good Morning!
I took today off work. There was nothing going on that my business partner can’t handle and I needed a mental health day.
I just got back from a longer than normal walk. I saw three deer, a fox and the horses were out grazing. I love living in the country!
I am going to spend the rest of the day making thank you cards for my DGS’s that showed pigs in 4-H. That have a lot to send as they had lots of people to thank for all their help this year and they had very generous buyers at the auction. I also need to make a card for the bridal shower I am going to this weekend. I would really like to make a scrapbook page as well.
Dinner is undecided. DH might be on his own tonight.
|
|
|
Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 11, 2023 15:00:26 GMT
Hi. I'm having a slow day today. I'm really glad about that. I figure two more spending reviews and then I'll just coast for a while. I feel like my brain is already on the weekend. I paid a mountain of bills today. I have a tendency to just wait it out and then pay a bunch of bills all at one time. Don't even ask me about my pile of mail! But at least everything that is not on an autopay is caught up through the end of the month. I also put in a huge grocery order to pick up this afternoon so I'm not sure what Jeremy will want for dinner but there are a number of choices.
I have no plans for the weekend so I'll probably just craft. I told Chloe she could by for a visit. But I saw her at moms last night so at least I did get to visit with her.
|
|
|
Post by ntsf on Aug 11, 2023 15:23:30 GMT
this morning, going to condo's annual owners meeting.. nothing much happening there I think. dh cooked up bison fajitas yesterday so dinner is set. doing laundry and house cleaning the rest of the day.
we went to free symphony concert (we sat on lawn) last night and it was such a great performance. going again on sat to hear the music of john williams. we are looking forward to seeing our nephew again this weekend with his parents.
|
|
|
Post by tmarschall on Aug 11, 2023 15:36:38 GMT
Hi everyone...TGIF, right? No idea what's for dinner. I'm in a funk. I suspect this is going to be the longest post ever. Can we talk a little more about flaky friends? I'm sure you have heard plenty from me on this subject. I do have some wonderful people in my life, friends for many years, that I love very much. I've been over this in my mind for YEARS, convinced first there was no way to accept flakiness without thinking ppl who do this are cruel, to trying to accept it's not personal, that a lot of people let life get in the way or have more drama than most, to not knowing what to think. I will also own that 5yrs ago I moved from Indpls where most of these folks are, and the majority of the responsibility is on me to make plans, travel, invite, etc. This weekend probably my best gf was supposed to come for the weekend. I have not seen her in person in 2 yrs. We don't really do phone calls, but we can usually just pick right up wherever we left off. We text and do fb. She's not very social once she gets home, puts jammies on and turns on a documentary after a long day as a social worker. She also helps with her grandchildren quite a bit. She asked if I would do her granddaughters senior pictures up here at the Dunes. I don't really do portraits anymore but I said yes. This is the 2nd time we have scheduled it. She asked for the dates. She was going to stay with me, and her daughter was bringing the girls and staying in a hotel. (As an aside, her daughter is high drama, which she is not, and she knows it. I've had to basically say, call off your daughter, lol, when she has blown up my phone trying to micromanage this thing). It's also tricky bc the pictures are dependent on weather, which woukd such for them to get up here 2.5hrs from home and if it rains...🤷♀️. Anyway, she tells me yesterday plans have changed, daughter isn't coming, is it okay to just bring the granddaughter and both stay with us. Sure, no problem. An extra houseguest is worth not having to deal with the daughter. I texted last night to see if theyvwould eat dinner on the road or with us. No answer til this morning. She has to cancel and begs to reschedule. She says husband has shingles (ouch!). Okay, stuff happens. Last time it was her car needed work. Which probably she knew that before the morning of. Last fall we created a new pretty guest room out of what used to be my office but wasn't working well for me. It required having Nick share the smaller room I have used for clothes. It's not the best but it is okay. (We have very little closet space in the house.). We busted our behinds to get that guest room ready bc my other friend asked to visit with her husband. She picked the dates. I was excited to see them and excited to have another room to decorate. New bed, mattress, linens, everything...it turned out great! She cancelled. Said her husband had to work. Not called in to work. Scheduled to work. And she wasn't coming without him I guess. This pretty guest room has set empty ever since. Still unused. I've gone to Indy for plans made weeks in advance and various ones confirm and then cancel. Does confirm not mean anything anymore? I check with people and work around their dates. Or they ask for specific dates. We confirm and they still cancel. One of my oldest friends (with a terrible history of this) confirmed for a reservation for my birthday dinner, but apparently decided to drive to Louisville the night before, supposedly got stuck in traffic (likely just didn't bother to leave early enough), didn't show, didn't apologize, and I have not heard from him since. That was May! He is waiting for me to get over it and call. I'm not. It's bullshit. All I wanted was an I'm sorry...let's get together soon. Between tough weather, covid, car trouble, and something's-come-ups, I've been disappointed quite a bit. Not just folks from Indy...you may remember my neighbor/friend from this spring. Another friend/former student who I am trying again with (we have a get together scheduled, so we'll see!). I am self-aware. I am a very good friend. I try to have good boundaries but also stay flexible. I understand that plans that sound great in the moment and will likely be fun, sometimes seem inopportune or overwhelming when they actually roll around. That's why I'm not too torn up over trying to finish cleaning the house and getting work done, etc in tine for their arrival today. But seriously. jeremysgirl your comment the other day about needing to accept your friend's flakiness or cut them loose is on my mind. I did cut the one loose that left me waiting at the coffeeshop and insisted I was partially to blame. We didn't have a lifetime of memories like these other ones. I don't want to lose these people. I love and enjoy them. They are grown adults and aren't likely to change, despite the conversations over the years. It's hard to think "well, I'll make plans with this person knowing going into it that it might now happen." I would never do that to someone else. I guess I'm just venting. Either I accept it or I don't. Neither seem like good choices. Also, I know if the shingles excuse is legit, it's terrible and not an evil plot against me, lol. Which reminds me, we need to get our shingles vaccines...because we do NOT WANT THAT. Anyone have suggestions about how to manage my feelings/expectations? Want to vent about your own shitty friends to make me feel better? Taking applications for new friends...the bar is low!
|
|
|
Post by tmarschall on Aug 11, 2023 15:37:25 GMT
Holy crap that was so so so long!
|
|
|
Post by karenlou on Aug 11, 2023 15:40:12 GMT
Sadly I was called in last night and worked 5.45 hours OT, I could not nap when I got home as I had some things to do, and a lunch date with a work friend who is on Medical leave. I did my errands and walked the dog, I am just waiting till its time to leave for lunch Which is a great location right on the beach😎Yes, I picked the restaurant since I am treating!!!
Dinner will be salmon and a salad, I have tomatoes from my garden and a cuke from a work friend....just need to pick another veggie to go with, perhaps corn...TBD
|
|
|
Post by leannec on Aug 11, 2023 15:42:56 GMT
I am going to grab some iced tea (without the ice!) from Starbucks soon and then do a bit of laundry ... Watch Project Runway ... one of my fav shows! Maybe read ... but probably not! The guy that was supposed to come over last night is coming tonight instead ... not sure if he wants dinner so I don't know what my dinner will be ... I guess I should text him. Don't you use auto-pay for your bills jeremysgirl? I do and it makes life so much easier!
|
|
|
Post by leannec on Aug 11, 2023 15:49:08 GMT
I hate to say it tmarschall, but all you can do is stop inviting these people to your place. They don't appreciate or respect your invitations and you are going to continue to be disappointed by them ... I need to take my own advice when it comes to my girlfriend who takes advantage of me ... she has no money for Uber but is now talking about buying Barbie's!!!
|
|
|
Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 11, 2023 15:52:23 GMT
Don't you use auto-pay for your bills jeremysgirl? I do and it makes life so much easier! I only have autopay on some of my bills. Some loans I don't like to use it because if I have more money, I want to drop more money on the loan. Like with my house payment, they will set up an autopay to hit my account for the exact amount on any date between the 1st and 15th of the month. I round my payment up to the nearest hundred and I pay half every two weeks when I get paid. They won't do this. And I like putting extra against my house loan, plus, I don't want to have to pay such a big bill once a month. I'd much rather pay in half installments every two weeks. I set this up at my bank, though, to send an electronic payment to my home loan. I swear, I'm weird, it's the accountant in me. I also tend to do things like throw an approximate amount at my utility bills that can't be autopayed and just whatever is close to what I assume the bill is so I don't have to worry about them. Most of the time, I'm overpaying, but I don't care because they just credit me for the next month and life goes on. I pay everything on time, I just don't pay my bills on any regular schedule.
|
|
|
Post by christine58 on Aug 11, 2023 15:52:43 GMT
cadoodlebug. I am scrapbooking tomorrow and Sunday locally. It’s at a really nice fire hall and it’s 10 minutes from my house. My friend Betsy, who scrapbooks also and lives about 45 minutes from me is also going to go and she’s just gonna spend the night at my house. So today I spent just putting stuff together to take. No idea what’s for dinner
|
|
|
Post by christine58 on Aug 11, 2023 15:58:22 GMT
Holy crap that was so so so long! That’s OK. I would not reschedule the picture appointment. I’m done with flaky friends. I agree that I would not invite her anymore or anyone else that you can’t depend on. Maybe it is time to find some new friends but I get that it’s difficult to do that also.
|
|
|
Post by tmarschall on Aug 11, 2023 16:00:41 GMT
I hate to say it tmarschall, but all you can do is stop inviting these people to your place. They don't appreciate or respect your invitations and you are going to continue to be disappointed by them ... I need to take my own advice when it comes to my girlfriend who takes advantage of me ... she has no money for Uber but is now talking about buying Barbie's!!! It's hard to hear and it makes me sad. We have so much fun when we are together. I wish we were closer and could just get an impromptu lunch or something so the stakes aren't so high when something cancels. I'm sorry you have a clueless friend. I said it before...entitled much? My mother used to pull that. Guilting me for cash for kitty litter and toilet paper while purchasing stuff off Craigslist...that she was trying to get my husband to borrow a truck and go pick up for her (a sewing machine)! I was furious. She knew I wouldn't go for that and tried to get him to keep it secret. Luckily we don't play that. Hope she gets the Barbie corvette for when she needs a ride next time. Barbie Uber?
|
|
|
Post by tmarschall on Aug 11, 2023 16:02:14 GMT
Holy crap that was so so so long! That’s OK. I would not reschedule the picture appointment. I’m done with flaky friends. I agree that I would not invite her anymore or anyone else that you can’t depend on. Maybe it is time to find some new friends but I get that it’s difficult to do that also. It is so hard. We are at a really different place in life than many people our age.
|
|
|
Post by leannec on Aug 11, 2023 16:03:27 GMT
Hope she gets the Barbie corvette for when she needs a ride next time. Barbie Uber? Bwahahahahaha!!!!!
|
|
|
Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 11, 2023 16:04:46 GMT
tmarschall, I understand your vent completely. I have never been a last minute canceller. However, I am guilty of not making plans on the regular in the past few years when my kids were out of control. Then of course there was Covid, and I totally took that seriously. Then Esther died and well, now I am simply out of practice. I'm trying to join back in, but I'm afraid I've already established a pattern of behavior and it's hard to snap right out of it. And I'll just admit that I do have a bit of a chip on my shoulder about some of my friends due to how they didn't reach out when Esther died either. I could totally have used some friends to pull me out of the house. With that said, my BFF doesn't feel very BFFy anymore so I don't know exactly what I'm clinging to. I'm so disappointed in her for how she wasn't there after Esther's death. I'm disappointed that she reaches out about 1 time to every 9 of mine. And quite frankly, I just know too much about how she's living her life that I haven't said anything to her about but some of her choices just aren't in keeping with my values and are not doing her any favors. I think she's got issues, many created by her that she knows are issues, and won't take any steps to change anything. The thing that drives me the most insane about people is knowing they have a problem that is preventing them from leading their best life but doing absolutely nothing to address it. I just don't understand that mentality at all. I fight tooth and nail to get to the bottom of every single problem I have going on. Sometimes I have to fight every day just for my own sanity. I don't believe in just staying stagnant and then having the audacity to complain about it.
|
|
|
Post by Linda on Aug 11, 2023 16:10:55 GMT
((((Hugs))) tmarschall - that's hard. And making new local friends isn't necessarily any easier. I lost my only local friends over Covid/Trump dinner tonight is lemon flounder, quinoa, and some sort of veg plus cherries and there are leftover cookies
|
|
|
Post by christine58 on Aug 11, 2023 16:31:33 GMT
That’s OK. I would not reschedule the picture appointment. I’m done with flaky friends. I agree that I would not invite her anymore or anyone else that you can’t depend on. Maybe it is time to find some new friends but I get that it’s difficult to do that also. It is so hard. We are at a really different place in life than many people our age. Oh I hear you. Have you ever had a conversation with her and told her how you feel when she cancels?
|
|
|
Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 11, 2023 16:35:40 GMT
Have you ever had a conversation with her and told her how you feel when she cancels? I have had this conversation with my BFF and she always turns it into that I don't understand how miserable she is at that particular time and I'm being unreasonable. I tried to tell her I was disappointed with her not reaching out to me after Esther died and she started crying and saying she stayed away because her anxiety was so out of control she couldn't be a friend to me. So basically she shamed me to the point where I felt awful for even saying that I needed her to be my friend. I left feeling like I didn't have any right being disappointed at all, I left feeling sorry *for her*. And I have looked back at how fucked up that conversation was and I'm like, I lost my child. If there is ever a time when you can make a claim on needing a friend, isn't that it?
|
|
|
Post by leannec on Aug 11, 2023 16:48:41 GMT
And I have looked back at how fucked up that conversation was and I'm like, I lost my child. If there is ever a time when you can make a claim on needing a friend, isn't that it? She is selfish with a capital "S"!
|
|
|
Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 11, 2023 16:59:18 GMT
And I have looked back at how fucked up that conversation was and I'm like, I lost my child. If there is ever a time when you can make a claim on needing a friend, isn't that it? She is selfish with a capital "S"! Just typing that out made me feel disappointed all over again. This is why my therapist was like, this is who she is, take it or leave it. (But she thought I should leave it.)
|
|
|
Post by tmarschall on Aug 11, 2023 17:27:12 GMT
Have you ever had a conversation with her and told her how you feel when she cancels? I have had this conversation with my BFF and she always turns it into that I don't understand how miserable she is at that particular time and I'm being unreasonable. I tried to tell her I was disappointed with her not reaching out to me after Esther died and she started crying and saying she stayed away because her anxiety was so out of control she couldn't be a friend to me. So basically she shamed me to the point where I felt awful for even saying that I needed her to be my friend. I left feeling like I didn't have any right being disappointed at all, I left feeling sorry *for her*. And I have looked back at how fucked up that conversation was and I'm like, I lost my child. If there is ever a time when you can make a claim on needing a friend, isn't that it? I'm so sorry. That is exactly when you should be able to call on your friends and loved ones. And by call on, I mean they should be there for you without you needing to ask. ETA Also, I have anxiety. It is debilitating at times. I understand it. But sometimes you suck it up and so what you need to do. I do, anyway. Maybe others can't, but I can't think of another situation that requires it more. Adding again. I've had these conversations with others before, and usually they end up either they are defensive, or I get the I know, I'm a bad friend....and then nothing changes. With her, it's hard to say anything when her husband is sick or she says she has car trouble without coming across as self centered or unreasonable. I just want to withdraw, and be busy when it's time to reschedule. But I miss her, darn it.
|
|
bklyngal62
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 3,984
Jun 26, 2014 12:16:11 GMT
|
Post by bklyngal62 on Aug 11, 2023 18:29:01 GMT
Today has been a day of phone calls. Out flight has been booked, the movers have been scheduled but now I'm looking for the best price for someone to pick up junk we are not taking. We have thrown stuff out we but have heavy things that neither hubby or I can lift and want to get rid of. I would also like to hire someone to clean up the house when everything is empty. We have an early flight and don't want to be exhausted the day we leave.
For dinner we are having rotisserie chicken with a sweet potato and mushroom salad.
|
|
|
Post by stormsts on Aug 11, 2023 18:54:09 GMT
I am sorry your friend canceled, again, tmarschall. This is the reason I have a very small circle of friends. I always got tired of doing the calling and making all the plans for certain friends to continuously cancel on me. Do I miss some of these people? Absolutely! But it got too tiresome. I figure if they were the friends I thought they were, they would make more of an effort.
|
|
|
Post by Marina on Aug 11, 2023 20:02:57 GMT
tmarschall I do wonder if your friend gets anxiety and is overwhelmed and then cancels because of that. jeremysgirl It's hard when there is not a give and take in the relationship. I have a dear friend who is like that. She is now diagnosed as an alcoholic. She can be a lot at times but she is like a sister to me having known her for over 40 years. I had a friend who was very oversensitive and and so we dropped out of relationship and then a year ago or so through facebook and texting exchanged a few texts and talked on the phone. Then the other day she sends me a text regarding her dog with some questions. I answered back with what I knew from my step-mom's dog which she didn't agree with and put a dislike symbol on my text and then didn't answer my follow up texts. I'm at a loss with her. Well the pupper's procedure is now canceled until next month since his stomach issues continued through to this morning. Kind of a bummer. Today we had thai food for lunch and will just snack later.
|
|
|
Post by taylortroop on Aug 11, 2023 20:12:07 GMT
I just got back from a 15 km bike ride. We haven’t been riding our bikes due to DH’s heart issues. I miss it so decided to head off on my own this afternoon. Not as much fun by myself but I got some exercise.
Tomorrow DH is going to a car show with a buddy for a few hours. Ahhh, what should I do?
Sunday is our 35th wedding anniversary. We are going out for supper and have invited SIL to join us.
Supper tonight is grilled pork chops, grilled sweet potato and a salad.
|
|
scrappert
Prolific Pea
RefuPea #2956
Posts: 7,792
Location: Milwaukee, WI area
Jul 11, 2014 21:20:09 GMT
|
Post by scrappert on Aug 11, 2023 20:13:41 GMT
No real plans for tonight that I know of. SO works tomorrow AM so I will either take DD shopping or work on some cards.
|
|
|
Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 11, 2023 20:21:53 GMT
Marina yes I totally get why you are still friends with your alcoholic friend. I think part of what keeps me hanging in there is that I know she's got some mental health problems. When we get together we have fun. But I know she has limits and I know why too. So I simultaneously want to kick her ass and hug her.
|
|
|
Post by cadoodlebug on Aug 11, 2023 20:28:00 GMT
she has no money for Uber but is now talking about buying Barbie's!!! Ugh, just ugh! I feel like we have gotten a lot of good, flakey friend *therapy* in this thread. I'm so sorry for those of you who have flakey friends. The only flakey friend I can remember was one of my sister's friends who called the morning of my sister's wedding saying she couldn't be in the wedding as a bridesmaid. Gave some stupid excuse. I know my sister was crushed. DH is down at our rental. The spring broke on the 2-car garage so he had to meet with the garage repair guy. He found out that the son of the tenants backed out of the single car garage not realizing the door hadn't completely opened and ran into it. So DH is getting a quote to get that fixed. The tenant will pay for the damages. If they have to replace the entire door, it will be about $1,000. Fun times.
|
|
|
Post by ntsf on Aug 11, 2023 21:35:36 GMT
I think it has become harder and harder to do the "social work" behind getting together, making plans, and don't get. me started on the lack of ability to commit.. all ages seem to be waiting to see if they are missing out on something else.
our society has changed and this stuff is going by the wayside or less valued, or fewer skills passed on. or... who knows. but i and you don't want to carry the load for friends who never do the work to be friends.. and brush off our efforts so you give up.
|
|