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Post by freecharlie on Aug 15, 2023 2:58:12 GMT
My cousin teaches in Japan and has lived there for about 20 years. He's always wanted everyone to come visit, but nobody really has other than his parents and my brother's family. Now that the kids are old and can contribute (if they want to go), I've decided I would love to go.
Since it is still a year away (in fact my cousin is currently in the states), I don't want to bombard him with lots of questions, so I came here. Is there a good book/website to kind of get a handle on things? I've started with Japan.travel
I'm really looking for cost of some of the cool things to do. It seems a plane ticket will be around $1500 and I will stay a couple days with my cousin, but he also wants to show me Japan, so I assume we will be staying other places. I'm wanting to see how much I will need to work to save enough money to go.
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Post by malibou on Aug 15, 2023 4:05:12 GMT
My ds had a bunch of friends that went over summer. They had a wonderful time, and lived off of vending machine food, which they said was awesome. They are 22 year olds, so that may need to be taken with a grain of salt. đ
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Post by katlady on Aug 15, 2023 4:29:49 GMT
How fun!! Go! Especially since you'll have a personal tour guide!
Costs depends on what you do and where you go and what you eat. You can eat cheaply (department stores discount their food after I think 6PM), or you can eat very expensive meals ($100/person). It is not hard though to find good meals for less than $10/person. and definitely a lot in the $15-$20 range. Smaller cities will be cheaper than larger cities.
The cheapest no-frills hotels are the business hotels. They are usually less than $100/night. They are very small, the bed barely fits. Some don't have closets, just hooks on the wall. They cater to the business person who just needs a bed for the night. But, many of them do include a Japanese breakfast. And then there are the bigger chain hotels. If you can, try to spend a night or two in a Ryokan. That is the Japanese version of a B&B. You usually sleep on the floor, traditional meals are included, and some may have an onsen (japanese spa bath). It is a very unique experience. They are usually run by a family who go out of their way to make sure you have a comfortable stay.
The JR Pass, which is the train pass most tourist use, is unfortunately going up significantly in price in October of this year. It will be close to $500 for a 7-day pass, depending on the exchange rate, from around $275 right now. But, if you are going to traveling around a lot, it still might benefit you. With the JR Pass, you can ride any JR train, including the Shinkansen (bullet train).
Try not to go in the summer. Japan is miserable in the summer. Very hot and humid, with the occasional typhoon coming through. But, it is one of the cheaper times to go. There is one week at the beginning of May that is expensive, it is called Golden Week. Everyone in Japan is traveling during that time. Also, the week around New Year's can be a bad time to go because many places close for a few days to celebrate New Years. Lot of Japanese are traveling around at the time too.
I usually check out things on TripAdvisor.com. I don't know what area you are going to go to, but you can find all kinds of information there. I like to use it because I like to read the reviews. Oh, and the yen is pretty low right now. Don't know how long it will stay this low or if it will go lower.
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Post by mcjunkin on Aug 15, 2023 5:08:33 GMT
Iâll second everything katlady said. I am in Fukuoka right now, on the island of Kyushu. It is hotter than hot, and humid. I live in the south, and have spent a good bit of time in places like Charleston and New Orleans, and this is by far way more humid. We are sweating through our clothes. Pack things that wonât look like you peed yourself if you tend to sweat a lot. Also, I have been here 12 days and have had weather from 2 typhoons, although luckily no direct hits. But mass transit did close down when the first one came through. Most everything at the airports, hotels, and subways, at least in this city, have English translations, so getting around is not too bad. I have food allergies so I bring moY own food, but my friends are enjoying eating here. Google translate app has been helpful. Not always accurate, but will translate my emails from the Japanese airlines.
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Post by Leone on Aug 15, 2023 14:30:03 GMT
I was lucky to do graduate work in Kobe. Japan is really interesting. Try to stay in a ryokan for a real authentic experience.
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Post by workingclassdog on Aug 15, 2023 14:41:53 GMT
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Post by wellway on Aug 15, 2023 15:01:18 GMT
How exciting, Japan is one country I'd like to visit.
Years ago a woman who worked on my team came to me one day looking for time off, can't remember why exactly but the airlines were offering amazing prices in flights. What blew my mind when she came back is that they hired a car from the airport and headed out into the Tokyo traffic, this was before gps! Crackers! They had a great experience, I hope you do too.
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Post by Tearisci on Aug 15, 2023 15:22:52 GMT
I've been to Japan a couple of times and it was a real experience.
First time I stayed in Fukuoka while exH was there on business. I was on my own most days and just explored the city on my own. Bring good shoes and blister pads! I learned the hard way.
Second time, we went with friends and stayed in Tokyo and Kyoto with lots of side trips to Nara and Hiroshima. We also stayed at a Ryokan on Mt. Fuji and it was wonderful.
I had issues with the food as I'm not a sushi eater and don't really like fish. A lot of places will have wax models of the food so you can kind of see what you are getting although I picked a pizza that I thought had chicken on it and I think it was actually octopus.
Ramen is amazing and I could have eaten that the entire time. One night, everyone went out to a fancy sushi dinner and I got mcDonalds and watched Bravo in the hotel. It was just what I needed after 2 weeks of going going going.
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Post by katlady on Aug 15, 2023 15:49:52 GMT
Japan can be difficult for picky eaters because many restaurants specialize in one dish. Curry restaurants only serve curry, noodle houses only have noodles, fish restaurant only has fish, pork restaurant only serves pork, etc. So everyone in your group basically has to agree to eat the same thing. When we went with friends one year, a couple of times we split up for dinner. In more touristy areas, you can find a few restaurants that serve a variety of dishes (meat, fish, etc), but the norm is specialization.
Oh, and eating early may be difficult. Many places to get food in Japan donât open until around 10. And the places that are open usually only have coffee and some type of bread (roll, danish, etc). Sounds strange, but if we find one, we like to eat at Dennyâs for breakfast. They have both western and Japanese breakfasts. You can get eggs and meat, along with rice and miso soup. Best of both worlds. Lol! McDonalds too is another place we go for breakfast if we want something substantial besides coffee and a roll.
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Post by caangel on Aug 15, 2023 16:10:52 GMT
Please share any winter specific tips! We may be going in early January on our way home from Taiwan.
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Post by katlady on Aug 15, 2023 16:48:18 GMT
Please share any winter specific tips! We may be going in early January on our way home from Taiwan. Japan will be colder that Taiwan, especially the further north you go. It does snow in Japan. There will definitely be snow in the mountains. If you go around New Year's, you may find things closed for the holidays, especially in smaller cities. They typically close for 2-5 days for New Year's. But I think cities like Tokyo pretty much stay open around New Year's now. Smaller stores and restaurants may be closed though. Tourist-wise, Japan will be less crowded. If you don't mind the cold, it is a good time to visit.
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Post by papersilly on Aug 15, 2023 17:27:56 GMT
my niece is there for the next two weeks and a friend is going in september. i can't wait to hear about their adventures from the perspective of a 20-something and a middle aged woman.
hope you enoy your trip!
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Post by birukitty on Aug 16, 2023 0:05:48 GMT
I'm so excited for you! I adore Japan! I've been twice. I was lucky enough to be able to live there for 6 months when I was 24 years old way back in 1984. I was engaged to a guy who was stationed in Yokosuka, Japan with the Navy and we lived off base in an apartment. While I was there he was out to sea for 4 months, and I had such a blast exploring Japan with the other "navy wives" that I met on base. One wife and I really hit it off and we are still friends today. I got my driver's license and drove a car while I was there-it was a manual car so I shifted gears with my left hand while the steering wheel was on the right hand side of the car-the Japanese drive on the opposite side of the street like the British do. Took a while to get used to, but it gave me such freedom. My friend and I drove to Kamakura one day to see the Big Buddha statue there, got lost, couldn't find it but instead found a wonderful bamboo garden.
Of course the rail system in Japan is phenomenal and you won't have to worry about driving while you are there.
I took DS on a tour of Japan for his high school graduation. We went to Tokyo, Nara, Mt. Fugi, Kyoto (my favorite place), Osaka, and a few other places.
For planning purposes I highly recommend the facebook group Japan Travel Planning. Sadly, Rick Steves only does travel guide books for Europe, but there are several other guidebooks for Japan. I like to go to a local bookstore, check them all out and then check out my favorites from my local library. Guide books in my opinion are indispensable for travel planning. When I go on my trip I buy my favorites ones to take with me.
DH and I hate credit cards and try to pay for everything in cash. We've been planning a trip to Germany for awhile now. We put a certain amount of money every paycheck into a savings account marked as our trip fund. It's been wonderful to see that money grow.
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Post by lg on Aug 17, 2023 11:09:39 GMT
I went to japan for two weeks in June this year with dh, dd and ds. Whilst our trip this time was Disney and universal studios focused, we also went for a friends traditional Japanese wedding during Sakura season in 2017. My experiences ranged from eating in one of the iron chefs restaurants (la Rochelle) to eating every day at shake shack (my daughters favourite đ€Ș) Self directed travel is definitely a great option - thatâs what we did with the kids and luggage and we had nooo problems. I would recommend the japan travel app for the trains, it tells you what platform to go to, which carriage to get on, which exit to leave from etc itâs amazing. Super safe to walk around as well, I agree with the other pea who suggested very comfortable shoes! Tokyo had a lot of English signs everywhere, we found it harder to navigate Osaka but it was still possible. Google translate is great to have, and many locals want to practise their English so are happy to try to help you. Note - food is served per the menu, there arenât really options to change whatâs on offer. You can eat out of vending machines if you wish (they even serve hot items!), you can also eat from convenience stores the whole time and get a different meal each time AND itâs cheap and fresh. More than happy to answer any queries any peas may have, I put in a short summary more Disney focussed on the peas Disney thread. Itâs hard to recommend things without knowing the kind of activities you like but our favourites were the theme parks, teamlab (interactive art installations), dotonbori district if you like trying new food and all the stationery shops including the travellers notebook factory shop đ loved it so much were planning to go again in September next year! If travelling in summer just note itâs VERY hot and they do get monsoons, tdr explorer was a great YouTuber we watched before going for hints and tips (more theme packed focus but has good tips on when not to go and when it will be busy everywhere etc.)
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Post by hop2 on Aug 17, 2023 11:33:26 GMT
My ds had a bunch of friends that went over summer. They had a wonderful time, and lived off of vending machine food, which they said was awesome. They are 22 year olds, so that may need to be taken with a grain of salt. đ small grain of salt Vending machine food in Japan is nothing like vending machine food in the US. Not anywhere close. So one easily could survive off it and enjoy it But that also means missing out on some fantastic restaurants. It is equally true that a teeny tiny restaurant in Japan can be completely awesome. There isnât that bigger is better attitude that exists here. So a 10 seat ramen place where the seats are around the giant Ramen pot almost like a fair stand might be the best local ramen place. Also 7-11 food in Japan is no where near 7-11 food in the US. You can get a decent food there in Japan good onigiri. So if you have a day where you had breakfast in the hotel, had inexpensive great ramen for lunch and snacked on 7-11 onigiri for dinner that day would cost you maybe $10 in food. Leaves you money another day to go to a great tempura restaurant. Itâs been 6 years since I went but my trip ( not including airfare ) was $150-175/day including accommodations & in country transportation & gifts I brought home. I remember tallying my receipts and that what it came up to be. I did have a hotel deal, breakfast was included in my hotel. I was tempted to try a capsule hotel but I didnât get the chance.
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Post by scrappinmama on Aug 17, 2023 14:34:22 GMT
Definitely do a search on YouTube. There are a ton of planning videos there. We have been researching for a future trip. You can definitely make the trip affordable. From the videos I have seen, there are lots of places to eat that aren't expensive. I have 2 picky eaters in my house, and I'm not a seafood eater, so I get the challenge. It can be done. Just make a list of places that will work for you. Airfare seems to be the biggest expense. Track flights on google flights to see when the price is considered low for your dates.
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Post by tallgirl on Aug 17, 2023 14:45:02 GMT
We've just come home from 2 weeks in Japan (we went from July 29-August 13). Yes it was hot, but only a few degrees hotter than it would have been at home during the same time, and despite the fact that we traveled during the rainy season - we only had one day that had 2 passing, 20-minute showers during our entire trip. Clear skies the rest of the time. We had a great time - spent one week based in Tokyo and the other based in Kyoto, with day trips out to see Hiroshima, Nara, Osaka and Hakone. We also spent 2 days at Tokyo Disney. Definitely recommend getting the Japan Rail pass if you plan to travel around - even though the price is increasing, its flexibility makes it a smart purchase. (As an example - we missed one of our trains and because we were passholders, we were able to hop on the next one that came 25 minutes later.) If you'll be traveling by train, you should know that Japan has a really efficient baggage forwarding service. Leave your bags at your hotel and for ~$20 per piece, you can have them forwarded to your next hotel by 3 p.m. the following day. This makes it much easier to navigate the train stations, especially if you are planning to do sightseeing at a stopover along your route. We came well under our food budget on our trip - we did wind up picking up a lot of food at the convenience stores, in addition to some dedicated meals at restaurants we had researched ahead of time (the world's largest conveyor belt sushi restaurant was a big hit with our teens!) This was also our solution when our picky eater was unable to find something on a menu that she wanted to eat since, as someone mentioned upthread, restaurants tend to cater to a specific type of dish. Happy to answer any specific questions you might have - you are going to love it!
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Post by katlady on Aug 17, 2023 16:04:10 GMT
I just want to elaborate on department store food. Most department stores in Japan have a grocery store/ food court on their lower level. The bigger stores in the bigger cities have a better selection. But the food choices are amazing. Vendors sell all kinds of food from traditional Japanese food to different ethnic foods to western dishes. One store we went to had a different section for western food. They had roast chicken (not easy to find in Japan) to briskets, along with soups and salads. And the dessert section ⊠OMG! So amazing! Cakes, candies, fresh fruit bowls, etc. I forgot which department store this was, but it was a higher end store.
It gets very crowded during lunch and dinner times. Very popular with the locals, so you know the food is good. The one downside is that there is usually no seating area. You have to take it with you. We usually go to the one closest to our hotel and take our dinner back to our room. But if your group wants variety, check out the department store for meals!
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Post by tuva42 on Aug 17, 2023 18:42:08 GMT
My 24yo daughter is in Japan right now. She's loved her 2 weeks there. She went for a scientific meeting so her university paid the plane ticket. Everything else she has found to be surprisingly affordable, partly due to the strength of the USD against the yen.
She loves art museums and they've been to many. Admission is really affordable. They went to TeamLabs which is this huge interactive art exhibit. Think Van Gogh Experience on steroids. They paid less than $20 to get in. In the US something like that would have been $75-100. Historic sites had admission prices of around $10.
Food is equally inexpensive. Their most expensive meal was $45 for 2 people. They each had 2 cocktails and the meal included a chef who came and cooked bits of meat and vegetables at their table, just for them. In Nashville, where she lives, just the 4 cocktails would have been well over $45. Also, there is no tipping in Japan. They've eaten mostly in small restaurants, but they aren't looking for 4 star experiences, they just want to experience Japanese food. They've had all sorts of noodle dishes, some sushi, all kinds of puffy pancakes, bagels with salmon and egg salad, cute little bento boxes of food on the train and a "craffle" which was a croissant/waffle served with ice cream. She said there were all kinds of Italian restaurants in Tokyo.
She's in love with the country and does not want to come home. She knows she would not want to live there, but definitely wants to visit many more times. Now she's got to finish her PhD and find a job that will have plenty of time for travel!
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Post by AussieMeg on Aug 17, 2023 23:59:59 GMT
I was just about to tag tallgirl and ask her to share her Japan travel video, but I see she's already posted. (I still want to see the video!)
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Post by tallgirl on Aug 18, 2023 0:58:30 GMT
AussieMeg it will likely be a couple of months before it's ready to share! But maybe I'll start a new thread to share a few other videos I've made and haven't posted.
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