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Post by katlady on Sept 1, 2023 1:58:41 GMT
Should there be a mandatory retirement age for people who are relatively healthy and able to work?
I know some industries, like airline pilots, do have a mandatory retirement age. But what about politicians? Or the average worker?
I feel that as long as a person is able to, they should NOT be forced to retire. We had an employee who retired at 70. He enjoyed working, he had no immediate family, so working kept him active. Sometimes, you hear about a 90 year still working everyday. And I know some people feel they can never afford to retire. And then there are people who feel the “old” people should step aside and give their jobs to the younger generation.
I made a poll and separated politicians out because that seems to be a hot topic right now. You can vote twice.
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Post by busy on Sept 1, 2023 2:01:41 GMT
I’m more in favor of term limits, which I think would also solve this problem.
And I definitely do not think there should be a mandatory retirement age for most jobs. I can see in some special cases, like pilots as you cited, but in general - no. That’s up to the individual.
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Post by mom on Sept 1, 2023 2:03:22 GMT
No, I don't think there should be mandatory retirement ages for most occupations. Term limits? Absolutely.
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Post by chaosisapony on Sept 1, 2023 2:12:49 GMT
I clicked "yes, over 75" for an average worker only because I think it is very important for young people to be able to get into jobs to be able to earn their retirement. When folks of retirement age, that are financially able to retire don't, it's very detrimental to the next generation's ability to secure their future. Obviously if we're going to force folks to retire there would have to be ample social safety nets in place since no once can live on social security alone and we all know that's not going to happen.
Politicians are a bit different. We need term limits badly but I would also support a mandatory age limit for political offices.
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 1, 2023 2:19:23 GMT
No to both.
Voters should probably not vote someone in that isn't capable of doing the job, but that is it.
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Post by lindas on Sept 1, 2023 2:19:27 GMT
Since there’s no way on earth Congress is ever going to institute term limits then yes, mandatory retirement. For everyone else it depends on their profession. I really don’t want a 75yr old surgeon operating on me or someone that age piloting a plane I’m on.
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Post by seaexplore on Sept 1, 2023 3:14:40 GMT
I chose Yes, 65 for politicians but I'd MUCH rather see term limits.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Sept 1, 2023 3:20:13 GMT
Since there’s no way on earth Congress is ever going to institute term limits then yes, mandatory retirement. For everyone else it depends on their profession. I really don’t want a 75yr old surgeon operating on me or someone that age piloting a plane I’m on. Let’s be honest. There’s no way Congress would ever vote for a mandatory retirement age either. Personally I would love it if there were term limits even though I really love the senators in my state. Maybe having term limits would help the really good senators move up to higher offices faster. |
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Post by hannahruth on Sept 1, 2023 4:57:35 GMT
It should be person choice when you (collectively) retire but imho people who are in office or making life and death type decisions (medical personnel, pilots) it should be on medical certification.
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Post by dewryce on Sept 1, 2023 5:51:12 GMT
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Post by peasapie on Sept 1, 2023 10:55:20 GMT
I clicked "yes, over 75" for an average worker only because I think it is very important for young people to be able to get into jobs to be able to earn their retirement. When folks of retirement age, that are financially able to retire don't, it's very detrimental to the next generation's ability to secure their future. Obviously if we're going to force folks to retire there would have to be ample social safety nets in place since no once can live on social security alone and we all know that's not going to happen. Politicians are a bit different. We need term limits badly but I would also support a mandatory age limit for political offices. I agree. We need to move over for the next generation. I clicked 75 for both. |
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Post by Patter on Sept 1, 2023 11:27:30 GMT
I’m more in favor of term limits, which I think would also solve this problem. And I definitely do not think there should be a mandatory retirement age for most jobs. I can see in some special cases, like pilots as you cited, but in general - no. That’s up to the individual. This 100%.  |
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Sept 1, 2023 11:48:54 GMT
I would prefer term limits vs. a mandatory retirement age but we know they wouldn't vote for either.
I think some jobs should have a mandatory retirement age. Someone mentioned pilots, I agree. I think any job that depends on quick thinking/reflexes probably should have a mandatory retirement age. I think first responders do, at least in Boston. My Dad was a Boston firefighter (the only person I've met that truly loved his job) and he worked until he was forced to retire. Same thing happened not too long ago with a friend who was a Boston police officer. But if someone's life isn't dependent on your job, I don't think there should be a mandatory retirement age (unless you're in politics).
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Post by Merge on Sept 1, 2023 11:59:10 GMT
I would be in favor of a mandatory retirement age for workers in jobs that are in short supply. Academia comes to mind (think tenured professors - those folks never leave and younger academics are stuck in adjunct hell forever). But where the industry is having a hard time finding workers - nah, let people work as long as they’re able and want to do so.
And I do think politicians should be term limited.
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Post by agengr2004 on Sept 1, 2023 12:05:34 GMT
I said yes for politicians. However, what I really think needs to happen is the establishment of a maximum age to run. For example you have to be between 30-65 to run for Senate and 25-65 to run for the House. If we can tell people they are too young, then we can also tell them they are too old.
For us regular folk, then no, we can't force someone to retire. But there may come a time when an employee is no longer physically capable of doing the job and that's why Fitness For Duty certifications exist.
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Post by scrappinmama on Sept 1, 2023 20:39:44 GMT
I said yes for politicians. The only reason why I said no for the general public is because there are a lot of people who would be pushed into poverty if they had to retire. Look at all of the older people that you see working at grocery stores or department stores. Social security just isn't enough if you don't have enough saved for retirement.
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Post by birukitty on Sept 1, 2023 20:48:34 GMT
I vote no for both. Term limits for politicians yes.
Age is a number. It has a lot more to do with how you take care of yourself.
My father is 84 and is still working more than full time. He is a computer programmer. He's been working in this field since the early 1970's. He works from home and he
says he loves his job. I don't see him retiring any time soon. He takes very good care of himself. Eats well, watches his diet and exercises faithfully.
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Post by littlemama on Sept 2, 2023 1:00:37 GMT
I think there should be term and age limits for politicians.
I think we should have a system where anyone who wants to can retire by age 60-65, but no one who wants to work should be forced to retire.
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Post by lindas on Sept 2, 2023 14:12:18 GMT
I think there should be term and age limits for politicians. I think we should have a system where anyone who wants to can retire by age 60-65, but no one who wants to work should be forced to retire. When The Age Discrimination in Employment Act (ADEA) was amended in 1978 it prohibited mandatory retirement before age 70 in most occupations so you can retire at any age you want you just can’t start collecting SS until age 62. Law-enforcement officials, air-traffic controllers, military personnel, airline pilots, Foreign Service employees at the State Dept and some states' judges are the only professions with a mandatory retire age. |
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Post by chedanemi on Sept 2, 2023 16:29:36 GMT
I was federal law enforcement and subject to a mandatory retirement at age 57. (I went earlier than that!)
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Post by BSnyder on Sept 3, 2023 13:36:23 GMT
People are living longer and one person’s old looks very different than another person’s. If the person is cognitively able, physically able, and wants to work, they should have the option. These older politicians were voted in by their constituents. Working and contributing is an important factor in longevity for many and they have experience and talents to offer. We should not be taking opportunities and choices away from people due to an arbitrary number. And as a future older person, I do not appreciate being told I have nothing valuable to offer; I should just sit back and be a drag on society until I die.
Also, “old” people will make up a portion of the electorate; they deserve representation, too. A 75 yo may be able to relate to being 30, but I am not sure a 30 yo can relate to being 75… heck, I can’t at 52. However, right now the age of representation is disproportionate to the population and that is not ok, the the general limit of age is not ok either.
Now, term limits… I can get behind that.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Sept 3, 2023 16:57:09 GMT
I think the biggest issue is that so many of our elected officials have taken what was designed to be a temporary position that regular people would rotate through and turn it into a lifetime career. The problem with this is that the longer they hold these offices, the easier it is for them to forget what it’s like to be a rank and file American with regular American challenges, especially since some of their benefits (such as their gold standard health insurance and their cushy pensions) continue after their term has ended.
For most people these days, after you leave a job for whatever reason, most of your benefits from that job end too. Gone are the days where most people retire from the same job/company they worked at for 25-30+ years and land comfortably with a nice benefit and retirement package. That just doesn’t happen anymore so that shouldn’t be the case for elected government officials either. Maybe they would work a little harder for their constituents if they had to face some of the same hurdles the rest of us do.
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