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Post by snowsilver on Dec 15, 2014 3:28:47 GMT
After some of the discussion we've had here lately, I'm very interested in knowing what the Peas think. If a sniper can get a clear shot and take the gunman down in that chocolate shop in Sydney--should he do it?
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Post by arielsmom on Dec 15, 2014 3:31:23 GMT
Yes. Any one that is armed with hostages should be considered a terrorist. Double tap time.
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Post by scrappinghappy on Dec 15, 2014 3:32:15 GMT
Yes! But I don't think they know exactly who is in that shop and until they know for sure, they need to be careful
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Post by Skellinton on Dec 15, 2014 3:39:56 GMT
Yes.
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Post by PLurker on Dec 15, 2014 3:44:38 GMT
Yes, gunman has total disregard for life by doing what he's doing. He's threatening others' lives and his own by doing that.
ETA assuming as in OP, they know all they need to know (as best as they can) to make sure he is lone gunman and taking him out poses no other threat. Just a "he's the bad guy, we know it, should we shoot him? (not reading what-ifs into it)
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Post by myshelly on Dec 15, 2014 3:51:28 GMT
Yes.
Absolutely.
I think where things get complicated is that you can't always tell who is a hostage and who is a bad guy.
But if they are sure then they should take the shot.
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Post by zella on Dec 15, 2014 3:57:08 GMT
Yes. Why would anyone say otherwise?
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Post by padresfan619 on Dec 15, 2014 4:05:43 GMT
I think movies and tv give people a false sense of how easy it is to get a "clear shot."
Do they know how many people are in there that are part of ISIS? What if they shoot one guy but there's another in there with a gun? I just don't think it is a feasible solution. Too many innocent lives at stake.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 4:25:41 GMT
Yes. Sooner the better.
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Post by freecharlie on Dec 15, 2014 5:35:57 GMT
Yes. If they have the intel that there is one gunman. More than one gunman, then I want multiple shots at the same time to take out all the gunmen. Otherwise, they might start shooting.
Have they made demands?
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Post by Peamac on Dec 15, 2014 5:42:47 GMT
Yes, but if he has info on other bombs, attacks, etc around the city I can see why they want to get the info from him before shooting him.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 6:24:09 GMT
If they are "terrorists" (which in my oh so expert opinion....) are they all have guns and big ones at that. I don't know how a situation like this is handled. I am sure Australia las their own FBI of some sort and they have an anti terrorism plan too.
My friends from Syria want the US and who ever else to bomb the heck out of ISIS and destroy them. They are not Muslims. They are psychopaths on a mission. Please remember that. We don't support anything they do and want them eliminated as fast as possible. We, too, see them as pure evil. Nothing less.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 12:30:44 GMT
Only if they had exhausted all other avenues or the life of any of those hostages was in imminent danger. That is providing they had a clear viewpoint to avoid any other casualties.
But to do it just to end the siege? No, I don't think that would be the answer.I also don't think that is the Australian way of dealing with situations like this either.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 12:56:47 GMT
Yep. I dont understand how it is an ethical question though. The hostage taker has no ethics or moral code.
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Post by mdpea on Dec 15, 2014 13:07:31 GMT
Except word is he has bombs in there
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Post by cannes on Dec 15, 2014 13:19:01 GMT
Absolutely, they should take the shot.
However, I think that scenario is pretty unlikely. It's never as easy as it seems on TV or in the movies.
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Post by luckyexwife on Dec 15, 2014 13:39:54 GMT
Notice she said if there is a clear shot which would result in freeing hostages. Even with a clear shot, there are still other factors. How do they know there is not a second gunman? How are they sure the clear shot is at the gunman? The gunman could make a hostage change his clothes to look like a gunman. If there are bombs, what will set them off? |
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Post by karen on Dec 15, 2014 14:26:45 GMT
Yes, if it frees the hostages, absolutely.
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Post by salem on Dec 15, 2014 14:37:17 GMT
I would think at this point, since 5 hostages have escaped, they know how many hostage takers there are and who's armed. So yes. I absolutely think they should try to take him out if possible and the risk to the hostages is minimal.
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Post by KikiPea on Dec 15, 2014 14:51:34 GMT
Yes. I agree, yes.
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Post by rumplesnat on Dec 15, 2014 14:54:45 GMT
Absolutely.
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Post by jonda1974 on Dec 15, 2014 19:42:48 GMT
It's too bad they weren't able to take a shot before three lost their lives to this scum.
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Post by Skypea on Dec 15, 2014 20:37:06 GMT
how do they know he is the gunman?
because he is holding a GUN!!!
but should they hurt him? That would make them bad guys too, wouldn't it? Possibly torturers and / or killers!
They should capture him and have the US house him in cushy Gitmo where he can be pampered and get all of his RIGHTS...
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