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Post by katlady on Sept 4, 2023 6:22:54 GMT
This discussion came up today with SO. Say you have a handicapped placard. There two spots available right in front of the store, one handicapped, one regular. Both spots are convenient and have easy access for a handicapped person. Would you park in the handicapped or regular space?
I said regular space, and that way the handicapped spot will be open for someone else. SO said the handicapped space because there are more people without a handicapped placard so leave the regular spot for them.
Are you Team Me or Team SO? Lol! And this topic came up because his mom has a handicapped placard and we often take her places.
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Post by snyder on Sept 4, 2023 6:35:48 GMT
It would depend on my disability. If I had a need for a wider spot and the handicap spot was wider, then I would park there, but if I didn't require a specific need that the handicap space provdied, then I defintely would park in the regular spot.
My city is known for having a large population of retired military and miltary disabled. There are not enough handicap parking spaces any where I go, they are always maxed out.
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Post by gillyp on Sept 4, 2023 7:24:14 GMT
Over here, my understanding is that the placard relates to the person not the vehicle so if mom was not in the car, you should use the regular bay. If she is with you then you can use either. If mom could cope with you being in the regular bay in your scenario, I’d use that incase someone with a greater need needed the other.
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Post by AussieMeg on Sept 4, 2023 9:11:23 GMT
7 to nil in your favour so far!
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Post by vsimone on Sept 4, 2023 11:14:50 GMT
I'm with SO on this simply because I live next to a small strip of shops with about 20 regular carparks and two disabled out front. On busy days people end up parking on my nature strip in the No Parking area because the carpark is full, except for the disabled spots which are often empty.
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Post by lesley on Sept 4, 2023 11:42:37 GMT
Unless I needed the extra space for e.g. wheelchair access, I would absolutely park in the regular spot. Your husband says there are more people without a disabled badge which is obviously true, but the hardship caused by a disabled spot already being used is much greater for a disabled person than it would be for an able-bodied person having to walk from a parking space that is further away. There are also far more standard spaces available. My DD is a wheelchair user so this issue is close to my heart!
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Post by Tearisci on Sept 4, 2023 13:07:47 GMT
Interesting topic. I take my parents out often and they have a handicap placard so we usually use handicap spots. I think in this instance, if I could get their walkers out easily, I would park in a regular space and leave the handicap for someone to use.
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Post by pjaye on Sept 4, 2023 13:09:56 GMT
If the person who has the handicap is in the car and will be getting out to go to the store, then the handicapped spot. If they are not in the car, then the regular spot.
I agree that the handicapped placard is for a specific person, and not for everyone who travels in that car.
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Post by littlemama on Sept 4, 2023 13:27:49 GMT
If I had a disability that required a handicap plate, Id park there. If I were my in-laws whose doctor hands them out the same way he hands out antibiotics, Id park in the regular spot.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 4, 2023 13:41:34 GMT
I have and use a handicapped placard. Depending on the day determines where I park. Although if there were two empty handicapped spots with most regular spots filled, I would use the handicapped spot. Otherwise I would use either adjacent spot.
And yes, the placard is for my use. If someone drops me off at the door, they are not entitled to than go park in the handicapped spot.
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Post by pinklady on Sept 4, 2023 13:43:58 GMT
Assuming you mean the handicap person is you or in the car with you, I’d park in the handicap spot.
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Post by myshelly on Sept 4, 2023 14:05:35 GMT
I would park in the handicapped spot
If you park in the handicapped spot, then the next person to arrive at the store will have a place to park whether they are handicapped or not. You are giving more people a greater chance at having a parking spot, whereas if you take the regular spot, the next person can only park if they have a handicap placard.
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Post by librarylady on Sept 4, 2023 14:14:13 GMT
In this case, I would park in regular spot and leave the handicap space open.
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 4, 2023 14:39:45 GMT
If the person who needs the placard is in the vehicle, then I'd park in that spot. That is who (not what) it is for. It doesn't matter about empty spots for anyone else. I don't need a placard and I can walk my butt to the store from anywhere in the parking lot. I know someone who does park using the placard when the person who needs it is not in the car and it is 100% wrong. It isn't for the vehicle. It is for the person. I get that people try to justify it, but I still see it as wrong.
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Post by milocat on Sept 4, 2023 14:47:26 GMT
I'm with SO on this simply because I live next to a small strip of shops with about 20 regular carparks and two disabled out front. On busy days people end up parking on my nature strip in the No Parking area because the carpark is full, except for the disabled spots which are often empty. It's the opposite here, there are rarely any of the disabled spots used. I would park in the regular spot if I didn't need the wider disabled spot.
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Post by FrozenPea on Sept 4, 2023 14:51:01 GMT
As someone who has a placard, I use the parking if it is open next to the handicap spot saving the handicap spot for the next person. We have very few handicap spots.
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Sept 4, 2023 14:51:09 GMT
I am not handicapped, and my car doesn’t have a placard. I park in huge parking garages for work. If I go from one site to another during a day, and arrive anywhere after 9:30-10, I regularly have to drive up 6-7 or more levels to find a regular parking spot. Meanwhile there are 8-10 handicap spots on each level, at a minimum, that I drive past.
Based on that, if you have a handicap tag, please please use it.
On the other hand, I once attended a concert for a country music legend in Nashville at the Bridgestone Arena, with my parents. It was a once in a life time event and sold out months in advance. Then, a massive rush for tickets because the artist sadly passed, and many other artists did a tribute. Anyway…. We had my dads truck (handicap tag) and they always operate on “parking is eaaaaaaaasy.” In fact, they often get free parking that is wayyyyy better than premium paid parking. Anyway, for this show, there was no reasonable parking, handicap or otherwise. Eventually I convinced him to let me drop them off, then find parking somewhere. There was no way they could walk from “somewhere.” So, in a situation like that————- I think anyone without a physical condition should NOT park in a handicap space. If I hadn’t been with them, they wouldn’t have been able to go to the show that they traveled to.
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Post by scrapmaven on Sept 4, 2023 15:01:42 GMT
I have a placard for myself. I try not to use the disabled spot unless there is nothing else available. However, if I'm having a bad day then I do use the space, because I have to do so. In the OP's instance, I would park in the regular space, because there are regular spaces everywhere and it's much harder to find disabled spaces.
This brings me to a PSA or reminder or whatever you want to call it: I don't always look like I need my placard, but I do. Sometimes parking near the door means that I can spend more time in the actual store. Sometimes I have a hard time walking and sometimes I have a hard time, because I'm so weak. So, don't judge a book by it's cover.
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Post by maryannscraps on Sept 4, 2023 15:06:25 GMT
I drive my mom. I need room for her wheelchair and a handy curb cut, so I use the handicapped spot. My husband has a placard too, but he’d leave the handicap spot for someone who needs the van access.
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Post by katlady on Sept 4, 2023 15:20:32 GMT
7 to nil in your favour so far! The gap is wider now. I showed this to SO. He is usually the one driving his mom around, so he’ll still do whatever. 😆 When SO’s dad was alive, if all the handicapped spaces were taken, we looked for an end spot. He had a wheelchair and we needed room to open the door wide. Two times, we parked in a handicapped spot, and someone parked in the blue striped area next to the passenger side. One time we were able to page the owner and have them move their car. The other time, I had to back up the car into the lane so that we could get the wheelchair up to the car door. People don’t think!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 4, 2023 15:24:09 GMT
If the person who needs the placard is in the vehicle, then I'd park in that spot. That is who (not what) it is for. It doesn't matter about empty spots for anyone else. I don't need a placard and I can walk my butt to the store from anywhere in the parking lot. I know someone who does park using the placard when the person who needs it is not in the car and it is 100% wrong. It isn't for the vehicle. It is for the person. I get that people try to justify it, but I still see it as wrong. Bold mine.. Not just wrong...Parking in a handicapped spot without the person who has the placard is illegal and carries a hefty fine here as well as possibly being towed.
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 4, 2023 15:37:34 GMT
If the person who needs the placard is in the vehicle, then I'd park in that spot. That is who (not what) it is for. It doesn't matter about empty spots for anyone else. I don't need a placard and I can walk my butt to the store from anywhere in the parking lot. I know someone who does park using the placard when the person who needs it is not in the car and it is 100% wrong. It isn't for the vehicle. It is for the person. I get that people try to justify it, but I still see it as wrong. Bold mine.. Not just wrong...Parking in a handicapped spot without the person who has the placard is illegal and carries a hefty fine here as well as possibly being towed. I know that it is in some states, for sure, but didn't know if it was that way everywhere. I just don't get why anyone would think it would be okay. If you aren't handicapped, it isn't your spot. If you are concerned about close up parking for someone else, park further away. Seems really entitled to me.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 4, 2023 15:47:30 GMT
And with this topic, up pops an ad for a standup electric wheel chair... How quickly it was picked up ..
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Post by scrapmaven on Sept 4, 2023 15:52:52 GMT
BTW-the placard is attached to the individual and not to the vehicle. If someone uses my placard in my vehicle or anywhere else and I'm not there I will lose my placard and we will both be fined. Plus, it's just a crappy thing to do.
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Post by lindas on Sept 4, 2023 15:56:18 GMT
I am not handicapped, and my car doesn’t have a placard. I park in huge parking garages for work. If I go from one site to another during a day, and arrive anywhere after 9:30-10, I regularly have to drive up 6-7 or more levels to find a regular parking spot. Meanwhile there are 8-10 handicap spots on each level, at a minimum, that I drive past. Based on that, if you have a handicap tag, please please use it. On the other hand, I once attended a concert for a country music legend in Nashville at the Bridgestone Arena, with my parents. It was a once in a life time event and sold out months in advance. Then, a massive rush for tickets because the artist sadly passed, and many other artists did a tribute. Anyway…. We had my dads truck (handicap tag) and they always operate on “parking is eaaaaaaaasy.” In fact, they often get free parking that is wayyyyy better than premium paid parking. Anyway, for this show, there was no reasonable parking, handicap or otherwise. Eventually I convinced him to let me drop them off, then find parking somewhere. There was no way they could walk from “somewhere.” So, in a situation like that————- I think anyone without a physical condition should NOT park in a handicap space. If I hadn’t been with them, they wouldn’t have been able to go to the show that they traveled to. So I should use my handicap placard even though my dad isn’t with me just so you don’t have to drive up a few extra levels. You then turn around and say anyone without a physical condition should not park in a handicap spot, make up your mind.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 4, 2023 15:57:50 GMT
BTW-the placard is attached to the individual and not to the vehicle. If someone uses my placard in my vehicle or anywhere else and I'm not there I will lose my placard and we will both be fined. Plus, it's just a crappy thing to do. An actual license plate also is for use only by the named person who must be in the vehicle, although it remains physically attached to the car.
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Post by The Great Carpezio on Sept 4, 2023 16:15:43 GMT
Depends on the situation and place. Sometimes, like at our local urgent care, there are a ton of handicap spaces open and everything else is full. I’d park in the handicap because I know a lot of people going into urgent care don’t have handicap placards but in that moment could use one.
If it’s just a store that is “normal” busy and only has one or two handicap spots, I’d park in the normal spot. If it was super busy for everyone, I’d probably choose the handicap spot unless it was a van access spot, then I’d choose the regular spot.
Situational awareness I guess.
I don’t have a placard, but my mom does. We also sometimes just drop her off at the door and park father away since we are able bodied.
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Post by pantsonfire on Sept 4, 2023 16:24:32 GMT
Ds and dd have handicap placards. If there was no need for dd to use a wheelchair, we would take the regular spot. If she needed her wheelchair, we would take the handicap spot.
When a parking lot is packed, we opt for the handicap spot as both kids need to be close for various reasons.
If there is ample parking, we take a close regular spot.
Unless of course a wheelchair needs to be used.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Sept 4, 2023 16:31:01 GMT
Around here there are always multiple, sometimes dozens, of handicapped spaces that go unused, especially at stores like Costco or Target so if I was transporting someone with a handicapped placard I would use one of those spots if there were a lot of them open. If there were only two handicapped spaces and there was another regular space adjacent that was also open, I would probably park in the regular space if I didn’t need the extra large spot.
Another consideration would be how long I planned to be parked in the space. If we’re just running in for one thing and wouldn’t be in the establishment very long, I would be more likely to use the handicapped space as intended in that instance so anyone else could use the other regular space. If I was at a doctor’s office, a movie theater or somewhere where the car would sit there for an hour or more, I probably wouldn’t take up the handicapped spot there knowing it would be more likely someone else with a handicap placard might need a close spot before my car would move.
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Post by jinxmom2003 on Sept 4, 2023 16:31:33 GMT
This discussion came up today with SO. Say you have a handicapped placard. There two spots available right in front of the store, one handicapped, one regular. Both spots are convenient and have easy access for a handicapped person. Would you park in the handicapped or regular space? I said regular space, and that way the handicapped spot will be open for someone else. SO said the handicapped space because there are more people without a handicapped placard so leave the regular spot for them. Are you Team Me or Team SO? Lol! And this topic came up because his mom has a handicapped placard and we often take her places. An alternative approach. If driver is not handicapped, drop the handicapped person near the entrance of destination with their equipment if they need it. Driver park and walk to destination. Reverse to leave.
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