artbabe
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Post by artbabe on Sept 4, 2023 17:09:32 GMT
I was just talking to someone and realized I describe time as pre-covid and post-covid. Kind of like using BC and AD. But seriously, I think of my life that way. My boyfriend broke up with me and then covid hit. Twenty-twenty was an entire waste. I feel like that year doesn't count as a year of my life- working from home, not going out with friends, not dating... And then 2021 came and I had a totally different life. Now it is the second half of 2023 and covid seems a very long time ago. It seems like a totally different era. Do you think of time this way or am I just weird? Well, I know I'm weird but... How has your life changed pre-covid and post-covid?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 4, 2023 17:13:32 GMT
Five weeks in the hospital, April 19- May 21, 2020, two on Covid unit, three in rehab.. groceries are delivered. I'm slower on my feet, more careful where I go, not often at that.
There is a sense of before and after...
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Post by crazy4scraps on Sept 4, 2023 17:24:09 GMT
I refer to things that way too. I worked from home to begin with so nothing there changed. I think the biggest thing is that I view certain people differently now based on their way too casual attitudes of illness prevention during Covid. My life has mostly gone back to normal but I do still have a bunch of masks in the car and one in my purse.
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Post by lisae on Sept 4, 2023 17:36:25 GMT
I refer to it as pre-pandemic and post-pandemic but then I live in an area where the word "Covid" is still political. 2020 was a tough year for us, too. The pandemic just made it harder.
Post Covid is different for me and my cousins as we are now the oldest generation. One of my dad's sisters-in-law died just before the start of the pandemic, Mother passed away in 2021 and that left us without any aunts and uncles. The biggest change for me is that I'm no longer a caregiver. DH has stuff going on from time to time but it is vastly different than caring for parents. I'm still not sure what to do with myself.
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Post by nlwilkins on Sept 4, 2023 17:36:44 GMT
I remembering calling it BC, before covid while we were in the midst of it. It just seemed appropriate.
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Post by monklady123 on Sept 4, 2023 17:38:30 GMT
At school we talk about the current 3rd grade as "the grade whose kindergarten year was at home", because they missed almost all of that formative time. And the 4th grade is the grades whose 1st grade year was at home, and they also missed a lot. I mean, all kids did, but the younger ones were especially hard hit because they couldn't work independently and they missed all the foundational stuff.
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Post by librarylady on Sept 4, 2023 17:43:12 GMT
I think in pre covid and post covid.
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 4, 2023 17:45:38 GMT
I still think of my retirement in 2015 as my big marker in life, but I do think about world marker as March 13th, 2020.
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Post by Lurkingpea on Sept 4, 2023 18:19:34 GMT
At school we talk about the current 3rd grade as "the grade whose kindergarten year was at home", because they missed almost all of that formative time. And the 4th grade is the grades whose 1st grade year was at home, and they also missed a lot. I mean, all kids did, but the younger ones were especially hard hit because they couldn't work independently and they missed all the foundational stuff. We do too. And there are pretty obvious differences. I wonder what it will be like for the kids born during the pandemic or right before. Especially since I live in an area that really did shut down and took it seriously. Even kids entering K this year were impacted although they don't remember before times.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Sept 4, 2023 18:28:16 GMT
I think of it as "before covid" and "since covid".
My life and perspective has changed.
"Life as I know it" can change in a second.
I learned the words hardship, humble, grateful, thankful.....in ways and depths that I had never experienced before. I will never ever take anything for granted, ever again.
My inner circle, out circle and extended circle.......have changed. I saw some kind and unexpected true colors. I saw some "don't care" true colors.
The worst part for me was the financial hit. I learned that what I thought was *enough* saved....... needs to be quadrupled or more. My savings was supposed to be for the usual *emergency* type situations (car repair, sick and missed work supplement income, new microwave, new tire(s), shit happens, etc... and for living life (travel, splurges, bucket list things, etc...). Never in a million years did I ever expect my savings account to be for survival day to day and month to month. I worked so hard and made so much effort to build my savings, only to have it drained. That has been so hard emotionally and mentally.
My foundation got shaken and got unsteady and wobbly. My inner strength got a bit lost for awhile. I am still in the rebuilding and work in progress phase. Thankful, grateful and humble.... for all that I have. I have more than some, and less than others.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Sept 4, 2023 18:28:40 GMT
At school we talk about the current 3rd grade as "the grade whose kindergarten year was at home", because they missed almost all of that formative time. And the 4th grade is the grades whose 1st grade year was at home, and they also missed a lot. I mean, all kids did, but the younger ones were especially hard hit because they couldn't work independently and they missed all the foundational stuff. My kid missed her last year of elementary in 2020 but honestly it was good for her being at home. We opted for full time virtual. She had a dedicated teacher that kept those kids on their toes all year. My kid was nearing the end of a horrible 4th grade year when the school initially closed down in March. Her grade had been shuffled around to make four classrooms out of three halfway through the year and she had a couple of mean girls that were pretty relentless bullies to her and her friends, so it was good for her to get away from all that. Compared to that, virtual 5th grade was a breeze and she went into 6th grade strong. Several of her closest elementary friends did hybrid and it was awful. They ended up way behind as a result because they just didn’t do the work and no one at home made them do it.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 4, 2023 18:34:03 GMT
ScrapbookMyLife I'm sorry you had such a hard time and that you are still struggling. Be kind to yourself.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Sept 4, 2023 18:38:10 GMT
ScrapbookMyLife I'm sorry you had such a hard time and that you are still struggling. Be kind to yourself. Thank you!
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scrappinwithoutpeas
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Post by scrappinwithoutpeas on Sept 4, 2023 18:52:22 GMT
Yes, I think of it that way. My life has changed quite a bit in that time. Not as much as some of the other peas, but still significant to me.
* I already worked from home 2 days per week before March 2020, but now I am fully remote and will remain so. Same for DH. * My dad got COVID in mid-March 2020 (yes, the early days) and spent 6 weeks in the hospital, very seriously ill (this was before Paxlovid, before vaccines, before easy access to testing...). My siblings & I took turns taking care of him when he came home from the hospital (he lived alone & we were all out of state) because there were no spaces available at any of the rehab facilities he could have gone to when he came out. That turned out to be a blessing in disguise, as I'm not sure he would have fared well in that environment. Instead, my sibs and I (and my adult kids) all took turns tag-teaming at his house, along with the home health nurse that came several times a week. But it was pretty scary since it was early days, there was so little information on the disease, ever-changing medical advice, and so much misinformation and suppression. To top it off my Dad lived in a red area of a red state, so mask usage (April - June 2020) was minimal...ugh. Now, three years later, he passed away this spring after what was basically a long, slow decline following his bout with COVID in 2020, exacerbated by a broken arm which accelerated his decline. * We are much more conscious and deliberate about exposure and risk now, staying away as much as possible from people who we know never took it seriously when they now say they have "a cold". Even though we are all vaccinated and very risk-averse, we limit our exposure in those circumstances. Seeing how some extended family members and acquaintances reacted was eye-opening and I hate that it changed my view of some of them. * DS basically lost a semester of college when everything shut down...he pretty much shut down at that time too. Luckily he was able to redirect and bounce back, but it was very rough going for a while. * So many people in DH's and my circle lost someone significant, there's been a lot of grief the past 3.5 years.
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scrappinwithoutpeas
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Post by scrappinwithoutpeas on Sept 4, 2023 18:57:41 GMT
ScrapbookMyLife, hugs to you. I'm sorry you're still going through so much. I "liked" your post because your heartfelt words really express a lot of what I feel/felt too. Well said.
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Post by chaosisapony on Sept 4, 2023 19:08:06 GMT
Yes, I refer to things as pre-covid all the time.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Sept 4, 2023 19:10:40 GMT
ScrapbookMyLife , hugs to you. I'm sorry you're still going through so much. I "liked" your post because your heartfelt words really express a lot of what I feel/felt too. Well said. Thank you. I am doing much better. Was simply explaining, how the pandemic has affected me. It caused hardship for myself and many others.
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Post by Zee on Sept 4, 2023 19:14:59 GMT
My life isn't a lot different but i think for nurses Covid was a very interesting time.
Most people really appreciated the risks that were taken by healthcare workers when so little was known about the virus.
But after, when things began to relax, there was a real acceleration in overall bad behavior, aggression, impatience, and angry ignorance displayed by a much larger number of patients than before. That certainly contributed to a lot of job dissatisfaction.
And a lot of nurses got used to taking shortcuts during that time and I don't know that standards are as high with all new grad nurses as they should be, post Covid. Maybe I'm just old but if I never see you with a stethoscope, I don't want you caring for me.
The whole CDC and PPE and bandanas and all of that REALLY struck a nerve with me and many many other nurses.
In my personal life, I was very happy that DH began working from home. He's still home 4 days a week except when traveling.
I experienced a lot of career growth in the last few years since Covid which is satisfying professionally but lately I'm feeling like I would really like to step back and go part time. Life is short and I'm really missing my old much lower stress life!
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pilcas
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Post by pilcas on Sept 4, 2023 19:21:05 GMT
Yes I think of before and after COVID but also the during COVID period.
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scrappyesq
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Post by scrappyesq on Sept 4, 2023 19:40:26 GMT
I refer to it less as pre-Covid and more like before the world changed. I just don't feel comfortable in my existence the way I used to, but I think that started a year or two before Covid. To me the world has gotten meaner and most people don't get joy or pleasure out of anything. I hate to be a Pessimistic Patty but to me the world is so different and Covid made it 1000x worse.
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Post by Texas Scrap on Sept 4, 2023 19:43:09 GMT
100%. As someone who got Covid in October 2020 and has lived with long Covid since that time, my life has been completely altered. I ended up having to take a full 3 month leave from my job after 3 weeks of a severe Covid case, although not in hospital, and then quick relapse into long covid. I have been part time since and still not back to who I was physically or mentally before 10/2020. I would say my kids were also impacted socially and academically, as my daughter was a 20/21 senior and my son was a freshman. For her so much of her senior year was different than what she expected. We were lucky in that our small private school was able to accommodate with plastic desk shields and masking to allow kids to be in person. For my son, the normal adjustment was magnified and then when DH and I both got Covid and then I took a really bad turn, my son had to fend for himself with teachers who were not totally on their game (understandable), but one in particular was not accommodating or flexible at all so when he had to go virtual during all of our sickness, he missed things bc he could not figure out how it all worked online and it really impacted his grades and she was kind of “too bad”. It still breaks my heart to think about it.
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scrappyesq
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Post by scrappyesq on Sept 4, 2023 19:45:40 GMT
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Post by littlemama on Sept 4, 2023 19:58:55 GMT
Pre-covid, yes. There is no "post-covid" as it is still here and still killing people. Long Covid is a serious thing that needs loads more research to develop treatments.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Sept 4, 2023 20:38:07 GMT
I think of pre-covid- covid and post covid.
I just had covid last month.. so think we are still in covid
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kate
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Post by kate on Sept 4, 2023 20:43:14 GMT
I echo what the other teachers here have said. I'm really looking forward to the classes of kids whose schooling will be all post-pandemic. There are so many injuries to the social and academic growth of the students from 2020-22 (including my own kids). There's also the little things, like how we used to blow out birthday candles in the Before Times. Now, that just looks irresponsible (if not totally gross)! To me it's similar to 9/11. I definitely felt a "pre-" and "post-" about that, but maybe it's because of living in NYC?
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scrappinmama
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Post by scrappinmama on Sept 4, 2023 20:45:04 GMT
Yes i definitely refer to pre-COVID as the before times. We lost my mother in law to COVID in the first year, back when California had so many dead that they were holding bodies in freezers and there was a 4 month wait list for funerals. We knew she would not survive, but LA county had travel restrictions and we could not travel back to say goodbye. God bless the nurses who over the span of 5 days, let us say goodbye every day through an ipad until she finally did pass. I lost my brother 6 months into the pandemic. His death wasn't caused by COVID, but I could not travel home for the funeral because of COVID. My son was scheduled to have heart surgery late March 2020 that was delayed until August. His graduation was postponed and altered when they finally did have it. My work came to a complete halt and when it reopened it was nothing like it was before. Nothing is the same anymore. Not that it's all horrible by any means. But I don't think we will ever get over saying goodbye to my mother-in-law through an ipad. I'll never get over not going to my brother's funeral. I'll never get over being scared for my son's health while we waited to be able to fix his heart.
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Post by breetheflea on Sept 4, 2023 20:58:54 GMT
To me it's PC (pre-Covid) the world shut down/mask wearing era, and now... post Covid hasn't happened yet.
Our healthcare system only stopped requiring masks late last spring... (2023)
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 4, 2023 21:30:24 GMT
scrappinmama sorry you and your family had such difficulty and sadness during Covid with lasting after affects ongoing.
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Post by padresfan619 on Sept 4, 2023 21:34:44 GMT
I was pregnant starting June 2020 and gave birth in March 2021, so definitely a huge life change from “before Covid” times. I see it as less of a before Covid and after Covid and more like pre and post lockdown. We hunkered down a lot longer than most with having an infant so once we felt comfortable venturing out it really did feel like a whole new world.
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Post by Marina on Sept 4, 2023 22:33:52 GMT
I do say before and since the pandemic. I don't feel like Covid is over especially since we had a family party cancel due to it recently and lots of friends and family getting it these past couple of months. It has had a continuing impact on children, their education and social development. And I really don't like crowds anymore. They make me feel uncomfortable. Also getting medical specialist appointments is still quite difficult beings months out. And there are supply chain issues that still seem to crop up.
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