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Post by elaine on Sept 23, 2023 16:59:27 GMT
I’ve been struggling with several 6th graders in my class who are homophobic and angry because I won’t validate their view that “there are only 2 genders.” The irony being that they are people of color (the only white people in my classroom are myself and one student). They showed their disgust when I put up a Pride flag this week - which includes the additional colors for gender and POC. We had a class discussion during morning meeting about ALL people being WELCOME in our classroom and that we welcome them for who they are. I saw this shirt in a photo that another psychologist was wearing and went and hunted it down and ordered it. Will wear it to school regularly. I am hoping that it comes in in time for a “longest table” event that a Korean church is holding at my school next weekend.  nicefrogtees.com/product/fortunate-others-build-longer-table-not-taller-fence-shirt/ |
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Post by gar on Sept 23, 2023 17:08:21 GMT
I love that 😊
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Post by scrapmaven on Sept 23, 2023 17:10:10 GMT
I think that's brilliant. I'm going to send a link to ods. He teaches juniors and seniors, but he has issues w/homophobic comments and tries to instill tolerance and acceptance amongst these students.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Sept 23, 2023 17:10:50 GMT
I wish I could like this more than once!  |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 23, 2023 17:11:58 GMT
Super!!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 23, 2023 17:13:18 GMT
It is stated limited edition. If you will wear it out, order two!
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Post by JoP on Sept 23, 2023 17:18:22 GMT
I’m another who loves that shirt
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Post by elaine on Sept 23, 2023 17:38:14 GMT
Who the F marked this thread as political?
If it is a red pea, well, good for you for acknowledging that your party is the party of hate. I’m leaving the label on now, but you were the one who made it so. Bigot.
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Post by seaexplore on Sept 23, 2023 18:39:02 GMT
Love the shirt but I'd NEVER put up a pride/poc/gender flag in my room nor would I wear that particular shirt for school. It opens up a can of worms that I won't touch with a 10 foot pole because I value my job and don't need to become a target of those who see differently.
Instead I make sure that I am aware of what my kids are saying/doing to others and I call them out when they aren't being kind in general. I accept all my kids as they are and have conversations with them and a few others at a time if they want/need to talk. My kids know I'm a safe space without me needing to put it out there to possibly become a target of pissed of repubs.
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Post by myshelly on Sept 23, 2023 18:52:40 GMT
I appreciate what you are doing.
And I also feel more than a little envious of you that you work in a place where you could wear that shirt. Teachers absolutely could not here.
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Post by quinlove on Sept 23, 2023 18:56:44 GMT
I’ve been struggling with several 6th graders in my class who are homophobic and angry because I won’t validate their view that “there are only 2 genders.” The irony being that they are people of color (the only white people in my classroom are myself and one student). They showed their disgust when I put up a Pride flag this week - which includes the additional colors for gender and POC. We had a class discussion during morning meeting about ALL people being WELCOME in our classroom and that we welcome them for who they are. I saw this shirt in a photo that another psychologist was wearing and went and hunted it down and ordered it. Will wear it to school regularly. I am hoping that it comes in in time for a “longest table” event that a Korean church is holding at my school next weekend. nicefrogtees.com/product/fortunate-others-build-longer-table-not-taller-fence-shirt/I ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜 this so much. Needs reposting. |
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Post by elaine on Sept 23, 2023 19:06:06 GMT
Love the shirt but I'd NEVER put up a pride/poc/gender flag in my room nor would I wear that particular shirt for school. It opens up a can of worms that I won't touch with a 10 foot pole because I value my job and don't need to become a target of those who see differently. Instead I make sure that I am aware of what my kids are saying/doing to others and I call them out when they aren't being kind in general. I accept all my kids as they are and have conversations with them and a few others at a time if they want/need to talk. My kids know I'm a safe space without me needing to put it out there to possibly become a target of pissed of repubs. Our school district, thank heaven, has recently (within the past month) taken a vocal stand supporting LGBTQ+ students pushing back against our governor. The superintendent herself wrote a letter to all the parents and staff which included: Another letter she wrote in the spring included: When I went to our school counselor last week with my concerns, she offered me the flag from her school-purchased stash of them. 4 of the 6 sixth-grade teachers now have pride flags up. I didn’t have one up when I taught 3rd grade last year, because those students were too young to have those conversations. My 6th graders keep bringing it up, so ready to have someone offer support. So, in my school district, I am safe publicly supporting ALL students. And I thank the people in my community for supporting our superintendent and school board, unlike a school district close by. |
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Post by seaexplore on Sept 23, 2023 19:07:32 GMT
Love the shirt but I'd NEVER put up a pride/poc/gender flag in my room nor would I wear that particular shirt for school. It opens up a can of worms that I won't touch with a 10 foot pole because I value my job and don't need to become a target of those who see differently. Instead I make sure that I am aware of what my kids are saying/doing to others and I call them out when they aren't being kind in general. I accept all my kids as they are and have conversations with them and a few others at a time if they want/need to talk. My kids know I'm a safe space without me needing to put it out there to possibly become a target of pissed of repubs. Our school district, thank heaven, has recently (within the past month) taken a vocal stand supporting LGBTQ+ students pushing back against our governor. The superintendent herself wrote a letter to all the parents and staff. One she wrote in the spring included: When I went to our school counselor last week with my concerns, she offered me the flag from her school-purchased stash of them. 4 of the 6 sixth-grade teachers now have pride flags up. I didn’t have one up when I taught 3rd grade last year, because those students were too young to have those conversations. My 6th graders keep bringing it up, so ready to have someone offer support. So, in my school district, I am safe publicly supporting ALL students. And I thank the people in my community for supporting our superintendent and school board, unlike a school district close by. That's awesome! I love the support your district SHOWS for the kids as well as just supporting them. Mine supports them but not much of a SHOW. It's just done as part of what we do. |
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Post by flanz on Sept 23, 2023 19:56:03 GMT
I think that's brilliant. I'm going to send a link to ods. He teaches juniors and seniors, but he has issues w/homophobic comments and tries to instill tolerance and acceptance amongst these students. That's great. I applaud you elaine and your son scrapmaven! I'd like to just point out that I really dislike the word tolerance vs. acceptance. Tolerance to me invokes plugging my nose and bearing a stench/something I abhor vs. acceptance means a warm welcome. Love the message on the shirt. xo |
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Post by flanz on Sept 23, 2023 19:57:07 GMT
Love the shirt but I'd NEVER put up a pride/poc/gender flag in my room nor would I wear that particular shirt for school. It opens up a can of worms that I won't touch with a 10 foot pole because I value my job and don't need to become a target of those who see differently. Instead I make sure that I am aware of what my kids are saying/doing to others and I call them out when they aren't being kind in general. I accept all my kids as they are and have conversations with them and a few others at a time if they want/need to talk. My kids know I'm a safe space without me needing to put it out there to possibly become a target of pissed of repubs. Sadly this is a very valid concern in this day and age. Sucks bigtime! |
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Post by flanz on Sept 23, 2023 19:59:04 GMT
Love the shirt but I'd NEVER put up a pride/poc/gender flag in my room nor would I wear that particular shirt for school. It opens up a can of worms that I won't touch with a 10 foot pole because I value my job and don't need to become a target of those who see differently. Instead I make sure that I am aware of what my kids are saying/doing to others and I call them out when they aren't being kind in general. I accept all my kids as they are and have conversations with them and a few others at a time if they want/need to talk. My kids know I'm a safe space without me needing to put it out there to possibly become a target of pissed of repubs. Our school district, thank heaven, has recently (within the past month) taken a vocal stand supporting LGBTQ+ students pushing back against our governor. The superintendent herself wrote a letter to all the parents and staff which included: Another letter she wrote in the spring included: When I went to our school counselor last week with my concerns, she offered me the flag from her school-purchased stash of them. 4 of the 6 sixth-grade teachers now have pride flags up. I didn’t have one up when I taught 3rd grade last year, because those students were too young to have those conversations. My 6th graders keep bringing it up, so ready to have someone offer support. So, in my school district, I am safe publicly supporting ALL students. And I thank the people in my community for supporting our superintendent and school board, unlike a school district close by. Fantastic. What a welcome rarity for a school district.  I wish it was "contagious." |
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Post by quiltz on Sept 23, 2023 20:00:32 GMT
I’ve been struggling with several 6th graders in my class who are homophobic and angry because I won’t validate their view that “there are only 2 genders.” The irony being that they are people of color (the only white people in my classroom are myself and one student). They showed their disgust when I put up a Pride flag this week - which includes the additional colors for gender and POC. We had a class discussion during morning meeting about ALL people being WELCOME in our classroom and that we welcome them for who they are. I saw this shirt in a photo that another psychologist was wearing and went and hunted it down and ordered it. Will wear it to school regularly. I am hoping that it comes in in time for a “longest table” event that a Korean church is holding at my school next weekend. nicefrogtees.com/product/fortunate-others-build-longer-table-not-taller-fence-shirt/6ht graders are still quite young and most are not "worldly" or live in some sort of bubble, especially if they are from a different ethnic group. Calling them homophobic is rude as you are the teacher. Tolerance also means to accept those who may not be as evolved as you are. They are in grade 6, still little kids. |
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Post by Gem Girl on Sept 23, 2023 20:06:51 GMT
Who the F marked this thread as political? If it is a red pea, well, good for you for acknowledging that your party is the party of hate. I’m leaving the label on now, but you were the one who made it so. Bigot. So little self-awareness they have. It apparently doesn't even bother them that seeing kindness expressed makes that person an enemy. If there's a devil, he's going to enjoy welcoming them home. ETA: I didn't even notice the rainbow-flag-colored arm on the shirt, and never thought about it's expressing anything sexually oriented; chances are that 6th graders wouldn't either. I just liked its kind inclusiveness. |
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Sept 23, 2023 20:08:48 GMT
That shirt is powerful!
I’m all about unity, unconditional love and authenticity.
I agree there are only 2 genders but who’s to say one can’t be both?
Isn’t that what unity is?
Not one or the other but both?
Maybe the gender/chromosomes and balance of masculine and feminine energy we were born with is like a seed that we choose however we want to grow with it. It doesn’t have to stay the same.
I can relate it to not having to only create from everything in the world of form but the world of the formless (image IN ation) as well.
In my spiritual practice, it believes this world is all made of polarities, meant to be brought together to see what both can create through synergy. I think this is why I love the Divergent series so much.
Oh and Ratatouille ☺️
ETA:
I just wanted to clarify that I am in no way being political about this.
I notice a lot of hate in politics from both sides.
Bringing both together, yes even hate, because hate has layers.
Hate has lot of hot fire on the surface. But take it deeper. What takes you deeper? Water. (Energetically speaking)
When put it together with its polarity of water, that brings down that wall of defense, and you find a need for acceptance 💜
It reminds me of the “monster” in Moana.
She just needed their heart back.
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Post by elaine on Sept 23, 2023 20:52:36 GMT
I’ve been struggling with several 6th graders in my class who are homophobic and angry because I won’t validate their view that “there are only 2 genders.” The irony being that they are people of color (the only white people in my classroom are myself and one student). They showed their disgust when I put up a Pride flag this week - which includes the additional colors for gender and POC. We had a class discussion during morning meeting about ALL people being WELCOME in our classroom and that we welcome them for who they are. I saw this shirt in a photo that another psychologist was wearing and went and hunted it down and ordered it. Will wear it to school regularly. I am hoping that it comes in in time for a “longest table” event that a Korean church is holding at my school next weekend. nicefrogtees.com/product/fortunate-others-build-longer-table-not-taller-fence-shirt/6ht graders are still quite young and most are not "worldly" or live in some sort of bubble, especially if they are from a different ethnic group. Calling them homophobic is rude as you are the teacher. Tolerance also means to accept those who may not be as evolved as you are. They are in grade 6, still little kids. I have never told them that they are homophobic, so I am not sure how that is rude. 🤷♀️ The statements they have made reflect that they are currently afraid of people who are LGBTQ+ and who are non-cis. Your definition of tolerance is the one that the right conveniently uses to try to get others to support their own intolerance (usually when tantruming against pushback on bigoted statements made and want to remain out-there unchallenged). Tolerance does NOT equal unquestioning acceptance. I can accept my students as people (including these two) without tolerating anti-LGBTQ+, racist, sexist, anti-Christian, anti-Muslim, anti-Semitic, classist, etc., beliefs and statements that they might make. It isn’t a hard concept. Frighteningly, 6th graders, for the most part, are worldly. ☹️ More worldly than me in some things. The internet, cell phones, and social media - especially Tik Tok - have blown away any kind of bubble. We even had an issue with 5th grade students sexting each other in a school in our district a couple of years ago which I know out about because a friend teaches there. |
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Post by dawnnikol on Sept 23, 2023 21:09:55 GMT
6ht graders are still quite young and most are not "worldly" or live in some sort of bubble, especially if they are from a different ethnic group. Calling them homophobic is rude as you are the teacher. Tolerance also means to accept those who may not be as evolved as you are. They are in grade 6, still little kids. It absolutely is being homophobic "noun an aversion or hostility to, disdain for, or fear of gay sexual orientation or gay people." My DD was on the playground at recess when she was in 1st grade and was holding hands with another girl. They were just walking around and a boy in her grade walked up to her and called her "gay" and said they were "both going to Hell". I live in a blue city in a red state, for reference. This is why books are important. But that's another discussion. I have a daughter who is now in 6th grade and I assure you, it is not the child, it is the adults around them and it is not okay. If you're taught to hate people because of XYZ and never told it's not okay, you just think it's okay. Elaine is spreading love, not hate. |
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I wish it was "contagious." 
