scrappinmama
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Post by scrappinmama on Oct 7, 2023 16:03:43 GMT
What is really upsetting is that it was boomers who fought in the 60's and 70's. They were vocal in supporting women's rights, pro-choice, women in the work place, etc. What happened to those women who are now voting to strip away everything they fought for decades ago? The people that they were all those years ago would have wanted better for the younger generation. Now that they are older, they have become the old people yelling "get off my lawn." What the hell happen to the hippie generation? The hippie generation is now 80+ years old. Hippies will always remain hippies. There are probably not a lot of them still around. 😆 The ones trying to take away women’s rights are the 30-50 year old conservative Christian’s. Unfortunately it's older Americans voting them in to office though.
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Post by freecharlie on Oct 7, 2023 17:26:52 GMT
Alternatively, DO read Reddit to understand what younger generations still working are dealing with. They're paying your social security once you outlive your own contributions. They'll be taking care of you in your old age. They don't have anything close to the financial potential and security that you enjoyed. They face the real and terrible effects of climate change in their lifetimes. They face a neo-fascist future in which they and their children will not enjoy the rights and liberties that we have taken for granted. LISTEN. Terming them all as entitled brats only proves their point. As usual, you put it perfectly and much more succinctly and politely than my “fuck you” comment. 😁 I’m a Gen X mom to Gen Z kids who are having trouble getting their feet under them in spite of doing all the right things. We help with as much as we are able, but there are some things we just can’t do for them. Anyways, bravo to your comment. I'm the gen x mom too and I currently have my 22 year old, his gf, my 19 year old, and one of the 22 year old friends living in my house. All of them know that they can afford to buy anytime soon. They can barely afford to rent, so my house is their best financial option. ETA: I didn't notice this thread wa 12 pages long. I'm sure something like this had already been said
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Post by busy on Oct 7, 2023 17:37:32 GMT
Unfortunately whatever it is doesn’t want to load for me but I appreciate the effort, thanks. Maybe this will work... link It's a long, messy link and I was on my phone last night. If that still doesn't work, here's the parent link for the voter info section on the KFF site and it's easy to drill down from there for more detailed info.
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Post by katlady on Oct 7, 2023 18:08:08 GMT
The hippie generation is now 80+ years old. Hippies will always remain hippies. There are probably not a lot of them still around. 😆 The ones trying to take away women’s rights are the 30-50 year old conservative Christian’s. Unfortunately it's older Americans voting them in to office though. I guess I was mainly picking up on the use of the word "hippies". The hippies of the 60's and 70's are not the ones voting these people into office. Yes, older Americans are voting them into office, but I am pretty sure it is not the ones who were hippies in their younger years.
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Post by MichyM on Oct 7, 2023 19:14:02 GMT
Unfortunately whatever it is doesn’t want to load for me but I appreciate the effort, thanks. Maybe this will work... link It's a long, messy link and I was on my phone last night. If that still doesn't work, here's the parent link for the voter info section on the KFF site and it's easy to drill down from there for more detailed info. Thanks. Unfortunately those links aren’t working for me. I’m the the hospital and thinking that I need more than my phone and the lousy connection I have
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Post by femalebusiness on Oct 7, 2023 19:27:44 GMT
Maybe this will work... link It's a long, messy link and I was on my phone last night. If that still doesn't work, here's the parent link for the voter info section on the KFF site and it's easy to drill down from there for more detailed info. Thanks. Unfortunately those links aren’t working for me. I’m the the hospital and thinking that I need more than my phone and the lousy connection I have I hope whatever you are in for gets fixed ASAP!
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scrappinmama
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Post by scrappinmama on Oct 7, 2023 19:41:25 GMT
Unfortunately it's older Americans voting them in to office though. I guess I was mainly picking up on the use of the word "hippies". The hippies of the 60's and 70's are not the ones voting these people into office. Yes, older Americans are voting them into office, but I am pretty sure it is not the ones who were hippies in their younger years. Actually a large percentage of people in that age range are conservative Republican voters. There was some Pew research on this. People in their 70's and 80's tend to vote for conservative Republican candidates. I have family members who were once hippies who are now conservative. I just understand how one changes their views so much? My 93 year old mother didn't change her political views as she got older. So what made so many turn conservative with age? It just makes me wonder what happened?
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Post by Clair on Oct 7, 2023 20:14:26 GMT
I guess I was mainly picking up on the use of the word "hippies". The hippies of the 60's and 70's are not the ones voting these people into office. Yes, older Americans are voting them into office, but I am pretty sure it is not the ones who were hippies in their younger years. Actually a large percentage of people in that age range are conservative Republican voters. There was some Pew research on this. People in their 70's and 80's tend to vote for conservative Republican candidates. I have family members who were once hippies who are now conservative. I just understand how one changes their views so much? My 93 year old mother didn't change her political views as she got older. So what made so many turn conservative with age? It just makes me wonder what happened? There is the old saying - If you’re not liberal when you’re young, you have no heart. If you’re not conservative when you’re old, you have no brain. What I see in some people I know - their social political views don’t change much but their financial views change. A lot of older people vote their wallets. They don’t want another perceived financial setback. I have stayed very socially liberal but sometimes find myself leaning towards moderate on economic issues.
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Post by katlady on Oct 7, 2023 20:35:25 GMT
Actually a large percentage of people in that age range are conservative Republican voters. There was some Pew research on this. People in their 70's and 80's tend to vote for conservative Republican candidates. I have family members who were once hippies who are now conservative. I just understand how one changes their views so much? My 93 year old mother didn't change her political views as she got older. So what made so many turn conservative with age? It just makes me wonder what happened? There is the old saying - If you’re not liberal when you’re young, you have no heart. If you’re not conservative when you’re old, you have no brain. What I see in some people I know - their social political views don’t change much but their financial views change. A lot of older people vote their wallets. They don’t want another perceived financial setback. I have stayed very socially liberal but sometimes find myself leaning towards moderate on economic issues. Totally agree with this!
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scrappinmama
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Post by scrappinmama on Oct 7, 2023 20:46:30 GMT
Actually a large percentage of people in that age range are conservative Republican voters. There was some Pew research on this. People in their 70's and 80's tend to vote for conservative Republican candidates. I have family members who were once hippies who are now conservative. I just understand how one changes their views so much? My 93 year old mother didn't change her political views as she got older. So what made so many turn conservative with age? It just makes me wonder what happened? There is the old saying - If you’re not liberal when you’re young, you have no heart. If you’re not conservative when you’re old, you have no brain. What I see in some people I know - their social political views don’t change much but their financial views change. A lot of older people vote their wallets. They don’t want another perceived financial setback. I have stayed very socially liberal but sometimes find myself leaning towards moderate on economic issues. Then it really does boil down to they got theirs and to hell with everyone else. What a sad, selfish way of thinking. Not directing this at you specifically, so no offense. But anyone who is more concerned about their own needs and doesn't consider the impact of future generations is selfish. I believe in the greater good for all. Old age will not change that. To me, this is a moral issue.
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Post by chaosisapony on Oct 7, 2023 20:56:34 GMT
I guess I was mainly picking up on the use of the word "hippies". The hippies of the 60's and 70's are not the ones voting these people into office. Yes, older Americans are voting them into office, but I am pretty sure it is not the ones who were hippies in their younger years. Actually a large percentage of people in that age range are conservative Republican voters. There was some Pew research on this. People in their 70's and 80's tend to vote for conservative Republican candidates. I have family members who were once hippies who are now conservative. I just understand how one changes their views so much? My 93 year old mother didn't change her political views as she got older. So what made so many turn conservative with age? It just makes me wonder what happened? I can't answer that but your post just made me smile a bit. You see, my grandma and grandpa were the hippiest hippies to ever hip. Every photo album is filled with pictures of them at protests and peace marches. My grandma cried with happiness when Obama was elected because she never thought she would live to see a Black president. When she died my grandpa found a likeminded group in a local city and spent almost every single day for the next ten years on a street corner with "honk for peace" signs. He played songs he wrote back in the 60s on his guitar at the group's gatherings. He railed against everything Trump stood for. He survived Covid even being in a nursing home with emphysema. He died a month ago and his memorial service was story after story about him doing anything and everything he could to advance liberal thinking and politics and promote peace for all people. So no, I don't know why so many people's views change to conservatism. But it sounds like our grandparents probably could have been great friends.
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Post by Merge on Oct 7, 2023 21:02:36 GMT
Somebody needs to update the older folks on the fact that Republicans are no longer the party of fiscal restraint. Their main interest is instituting Christian nationalism by any means necessary.
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Post by withapea on Oct 7, 2023 21:18:22 GMT
Actually a large percentage of people in that age range are conservative Republican voters. There was some Pew research on this. People in their 70's and 80's tend to vote for conservative Republican candidates. I have family members who were once hippies who are now conservative. I just understand how one changes their views so much? My 93 year old mother didn't change her political views as she got older. So what made so many turn conservative with age? It just makes me wonder what happened? There is the old saying - If you’re not liberal when you’re young, you have no heart. If you’re not conservative when you’re old, you have no brain. What I see in some people I know - their social political views don’t change much but their financial views change. A lot of older people vote their wallets. They don’t want another perceived financial setback. I have stayed very socially liberal but sometimes find myself leaning towards moderate on economic issues. Not me. I’ve gone from liberal to progressive to democratic socialist
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Post by jayfab on Oct 7, 2023 21:58:00 GMT
There is the old saying - If you’re not liberal when you’re young, you have no heart. If you’re not conservative when you’re old, you have no brain. What I see in some people I know - their social political views don’t change much but their financial views change. A lot of older people vote their wallets. They don’t want another perceived financial setback. I have stayed very socially liberal but sometimes find myself leaning towards moderate on economic issues. Not me. I’ve gone from liberal to progressive to democratic socialist Same here, I've gotten more liberal as the years have gone by. I just turned 66. BUT I have a group of about 12 of us that hangout and I'm the outlier, they've all gone the trump/conspiracy way. And yup, most of them have the "I got mine" motto. FYI none of them are wealthy at all, just working people, no professional types. Oh and yes, was and always be a hippie protester.
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Post by femalebusiness on Oct 7, 2023 22:51:40 GMT
Somebody needs to update the older folks on the fact that Republicans are no longer the party of fiscal restraint. Their main interest is instituting Christian nationalism by any means necessary. You know merge you get all pissed off when anyone generalizes about the younger gen but you have no problem generalizing and lumping all older people into a right wing group who votes to screw over younger people. Neither I nor anyone I know who is my age vote republican. In fact they understand better than most what is going on and are also affected by high prices. It may be that I live in So Cal or it may be that I choose a better crowd to run around with than you do. Or maybe it is where you live. Last night I started mentally going through the younger people that I know. I know eight approximately 30 year olds who put themselves through school, got good jobs, married and had a kid or two and also bought a house, here in California within the last few years. Every one of those people are intelligent and very hard working. I also know 6 or 7 that are total losers and will never move out of mom and dad's or grandma's house. The different between these two groups is what type of parents they had and what they believe they are entitled to. There are the parents who teach, discipline and encourage their children and there are the parents who make excuses and tell the kids that it is the teachers, the school, the cops or the Boomers who are mean to their little darlings. The same ones that as children everyone got a trophy for competing even if you lose because god forbid the child should ever experience a failure. No one age group is all anything. The OK Boomer stuff is not doing the young ones any good at all. It drives away those who could be willing to help. It is teaching them to be disrespectful and expecting someone to come and rescue them instead of teaching them to stand on their own two feet and succeed. I know the old repub trumper extremists are out there but I also see a lot of young white supremacists and a bunch of young losers. How about removing the age from generalizations on both ends. There are people who suck and people who are successful at all ages. Everyone would be better served by brainstorming practical ways to join together to combat what is going on. As much as the attitude of some peas is distressing to you there are some whose thinking distresses me just as much. I do fear for our younger generations. Is it harder today, you bet it is. We either change it or sink. Complaining and pitting the generations against each other won't change a thing.
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Post by Merge on Oct 7, 2023 22:54:43 GMT
Somebody needs to update the older folks on the fact that Republicans are no longer the party of fiscal restraint. Their main interest is instituting Christian nationalism by any means necessary. You know merge you get all pissed off when anyone generalizes about the younger gen but you have no problem generalizing and lumping all older people into a right wing group who votes to screw over younger people. Neither I nor anyone I know who is my age vote republican. In fact they understand better than most what is going on and are also affected by high prices. It may be that I live in So Cal or it may be that I choose a better crowd to run around with than you do. Or maybe it is where you live. Last night I started mentally going through the younger people that I know. I know eight approximately 30 year olds who put themselves through school, got good jobs, married and had a kid or two and also bought a house, here in California within the last few years. Every one of those people are intelligent and very hard working. I also know 6 or 7 that are total losers and will never move out of mom and dad's or grandma's house. The different between these two groups is what type of parents they had and what they believe they are entitled to. There are the parents who teach, discipline and encourage their children and there are the parents who make excuses and tell the kids that it is the teachers, the school, the cops or the Boomers who are mean to their little darlings. The same ones that as children everyone got a trophy for competing even if you lose because god forbid the child should ever experience a failure. No one age group is all anything. The OK Boomer stuff is not doing the young ones any good at all. It drives away those who could be willing to help. It is teaching them to be disrespectful and expecting someone to come and rescue them instead of teaching them to stand on their own two feet and succeed. I know the old repub trumper extremists are out there but I also see a lot of young white supremacists and a bunch of young losers. How about removing the age from generalizations on both ends. There are people who suck and people who are successful at all ages. Everyone would be better served by brainstorming practical ways to join together to combat what is going on. As much as the attitude of some peas is distressing to you there are some whose thinking distresses me just as much. I do fear for our younger generations. Is it harder today, you bet it is. We either change it or sink. Complaining and pitting the generations against each other won't change a thing. I’m not generalizing. Statistically speaking, older people skew Republican. That’s just a fact. Not anecdotal, not based on a survey of people I know. Simple statistical fact. Statistically speaking, Millennials are the first generation who won’t do as well as their parents. Not an anecdote. Statistical fact. And the important part of that is that it’s true across the spectrum of the motivated and the less motivated. In much the same way that people’s voting behavior around public schools is shaped in part by what people say negatively about teachers and unions, voting behavior around policies that affect younger generations is shaped by rhetoric like “entitled” and “lazy.” You’re not helping anyone talking like that. It is more difficult for this generation to succeed than it was for yours or mine. The income gap is widening enormously. Full stop. That is the sum total of what needs to be said and addressed. I don’t care what you think about any of the rest of it. I’m out. Do what you all want and let the world burn. You’ve got yours.
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Post by pinklady on Oct 8, 2023 0:03:05 GMT
I’m not generalizing. Statistically speaking, older people skew Republican. That’s just a fact. Not anecdotal, not based on a survey of people I know. Simple statistical fact. Statistically speaking, Millennials are the first generation who won’t do as well as their parents. Not an anecdote. Statistical fact. And the important part of that is that it’s true across the spectrum of the motivated and the less motivated. In much the same way that people’s voting behavior around public schools is shaped in part by what people say negatively about teachers and unions, voting behavior around policies that affect younger generations is shaped by rhetoric like “entitled” and “lazy.” You’re not helping anyone talking like that. It is more difficult for this generation to succeed than it was for yours or mine. The income gap is widening enormously. Full stop. That is the sum total of what needs to be said and addressed. I don’t care what you think about any of the rest of it. I’m out. Do what you all want and let the world burn. You’ve got yours. I notice you haven’t posted on the inheritance thread. You got yours but fuck the rest???
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Post by peasquared on Oct 8, 2023 0:13:30 GMT
Actually a large percentage of people in that age range are conservative Republican voters. There was some Pew research on this. People in their 70's and 80's tend to vote for conservative Republican candidates. I have family members who were once hippies who are now conservative. I just understand how one changes their views so much? My 93 year old mother didn't change her political views as she got older. So what made so many turn conservative with age? It just makes me wonder what happened? I can't answer that but your post just made me smile a bit. You see, my grandma and grandpa were the hippiest hippies to ever hip. Every photo album is filled with pictures of them at protests and peace marches. My grandma cried with happiness when Obama was elected because she never thought she would live to see a Black president. When she died my grandpa found a likeminded group in a local city and spent almost every single day for the next ten years on a street corner with "honk for peace" signs. He played songs he wrote back in the 60s on his guitar at the group's gatherings. He railed against everything Trump stood for. He survived Covid even being in a nursing home with emphysema. He died a month ago and his memorial service was story after story about him doing anything and everything he could to advance liberal thinking and politics and promote peace for all people. So no, I don't know why so many people's views change to conservatism. But it sounds like our grandparents probably could have been great friends. I'm sorry about your Grandpa's recent passing. He and your Grandma sound like amazing people!
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Post by Merge on Oct 8, 2023 0:27:49 GMT
I’m not generalizing. Statistically speaking, older people skew Republican. That’s just a fact. Not anecdotal, not based on a survey of people I know. Simple statistical fact. Statistically speaking, Millennials are the first generation who won’t do as well as their parents. Not an anecdote. Statistical fact. And the important part of that is that it’s true across the spectrum of the motivated and the less motivated. In much the same way that people’s voting behavior around public schools is shaped in part by what people say negatively about teachers and unions, voting behavior around policies that affect younger generations is shaped by rhetoric like “entitled” and “lazy.” You’re not helping anyone talking like that. It is more difficult for this generation to succeed than it was for yours or mine. The income gap is widening enormously. Full stop. That is the sum total of what needs to be said and addressed. I don’t care what you think about any of the rest of it. I’m out. Do what you all want and let the world burn. You’ve got yours. I notice you haven’t posted on the inheritance thread. You got yours but fuck the rest??? I don’t share the specifics of our personal financial situation on a public message board. If you have a problem with that … well, I don’t care.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Oct 8, 2023 0:38:26 GMT
I guess I was mainly picking up on the use of the word "hippies". The hippies of the 60's and 70's are not the ones voting these people into office. Yes, older Americans are voting them into office, but I am pretty sure it is not the ones who were hippies in their younger years. Actually a large percentage of people in that age range are conservative Republican voters. There was some Pew research on this. People in their 70's and 80's tend to vote for conservative Republican candidates. I have family members who were once hippies who are now conservative. I just understand how one changes their views so much? My 93 year old mother didn't change her political views as she got older. So what made so many turn conservative with age? It just makes me wonder what happened? When I was growing up, both of my parents were staunch Democrats. My dad was a union man through and through, and was very involved in politics as were most of his siblings. My dad died pretty young, but I doubt he would have changed his views. Now my mom on the other hand gradually shifted more and more rightward as she got older. She was a devout Catholic and I really think a lot of that had to do with the views her church pushed. She never had cable tv so Fox and other conservative media wasn’t an influencing factor with her like it was for so many. If her church told her to vote Republican to “save the babies!!!” she probably would have.
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Post by h2ohdog on Oct 8, 2023 15:37:09 GMT
Somebody needs to update the older folks on the fact that Republicans are no longer the party of fiscal restraint. Their main interest is instituting Christian nationalism by any means necessary. Very interesting podcast on Christian nationalism and politics called “Charismatic Christian Revival Fury” (episode 10 of Unreasonable podcast) and a series on the same on Straight White American Jesus podcast. It opened my eyes on the power that is out there. Maybe everyone else’s eyes are already open, though.
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Post by Merge on Oct 8, 2023 16:25:12 GMT
Somebody needs to update the older folks on the fact that Republicans are no longer the party of fiscal restraint. Their main interest is instituting Christian nationalism by any means necessary. Very interesting podcast on Christian nationalism and politics called “Charismatic Christian Revival Fury” (episode 10 of Unreasonable podcast) and a series on the same on Straight White American Jesus podcast. It opened my eyes on the power that is out there. Maybe everyone else’s eyes are already open, though. For you and anyone who is interested, here's a piece on two west Texas billionaires who are shaping the political landscape to their own Christian nationalist preference through large donations to the state's GOP. They help fund primary challenges to more moderate Republicans. They played a large part in Ken Paxton's acquittal in his impeachment trial because Paxton is either sympathetic to their cause, or willing to pretend to be in order to keep getting those sweet donations. Lots of other info on them out there - just Google Wilks and Dunn. www.cnn.com/2022/07/24/politics/texas-far-right-politics-invs/index.htmlWe see this also with the DeVos family. One of their major goals is to end public schools and replace them with conservative Christian private schools throughout the country. For all the right likes to harp on George Soros, there's a LOT of money flowing to their side from billionaires who have benefitted from tax policy that keeps the rich getting richer, and who turn around and plow that money into taking control of states and, eventually, the country. It's Russian-style oligarchy with Jesus window dressing. (To tie this back to the thread - I'll let you guess to which generation Wilks and Dunn belong. It's the one that contains most of the world's billionaires. Something the "just vote harder" contingent often misses is the sheer amount of money being poured into making sure voting doesn't change anything.)
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Post by wordfish on Oct 8, 2023 19:42:52 GMT
Instead of the focus on "do today's young adults have it tougher than 'we' did or not?" it would be more productive to look at young people who are managing to acquire property and who are managing to thrive without any particular advantage, and look at options and goals, then try to figure out how to get there. Maybe the paths that were doable in 1980, or 1990, or 2000, or 2010...maybe those are no longer viable for the average 20-something (or 30-something). I agree it's a different world in 2023.
But opportunity is always out there. It's certainly out there now. Is home ownership the goal? It's out of the question in a lot of areas. But not every area. Might it require moving to a different cost-of-living area? Maybe. Might it require doing something truly radical like joining the military to qualify for a VA loan? Maybe. Could a nursing degree have been leveraged to gigantic traveler's nursing salaries over the last 3-4 years? Absolutely. That's not a great option any longer--but something else probably is. Something else always is.
Is a pension the main goal? That limits career choices to pretty much government (military, federal, state and local) jobs and maybe union positions. But they are out there.
I just find all the lamenting on basically saying every single young person today is pretty much doomed is pretty unhelpful. I also think it's not particularly realistic.
I have three children. They are all adults. We provided some assistance with college, but if they did not choose the option that allowed them to graduate debt-free by living at home and choosing the very good school in our town, student loans were their responsibility. We did pay some of their college costs, but we did not fund their entire college educations. None of the three chose the free option. One went to one of the most prestigious universities in the country. She is the one with the least student loan debt (she paid it off some years ago). She just bought a house in San Diego last year. She does a job not too many people want to do these days, apparently.
The other two had realistic student loan debt. Then one chose to incur a ton more with a graduate program, but it was her choice and did lead directly to a good job in her chosen field through one of her classmates, a bank president. There were other options but she chose the high-debt one. Hopefully it was a good choice.
There is a housing crisis in my area. We have a 10-year shortage of housing. It's not a good situation. But there are homes out there in an affordable, starter range. Not many, and they need work, but they are there. There are more if you go out from the metro center. What concerns me more is the huge rise in rents around here. That is the element of the current picture locally that is just stunning to me--and does not seem remotely sustainable. The same house that rented for $800 even 5 years ago is going for $2000 today.
What's funny to me is that when we were buying our first house in 1988, we could afford nothing in our immediate area. Nothing. Interest rates were around 7%, maybe 8% (I don't recall exactly). But I wanted to buy a house, so we went to the boonies and found one we could qualify for. If there had been none in our extended area, and it was my top priority, we would probably have moved to a location where we could afford something.
That's still possible today. Is it harder? Probably--almost certainly, actually. But life is not static.
The millennials in my life have figured out ways to thrive. Their friends have as well. Not all of them, but that's always been the case. I agree that the whole "bootstraps" thing is not particularly helpful either. But it just strikes me as so overwhelmingly depressing and unhelpful to cling to the argument that they are all doomed. I guess it's true if you are trying to slot them into the world of 30, 20, even 10 years ago. But while a lot has changed in a negative way, there's a lot that can be leveraged to create an advantage and try to achieve a goal. One example: Remote work. That was pretty unusual not that long ago. Now it's pretty common.
I'm not a boomer. I'm a Gen-X person, if that matters. It shouldn't. But I notice we are all self-identifying here.
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Post by smasonnc on Oct 8, 2023 20:51:02 GMT
What is really upsetting is that it was boomers who fought in the 60's and 70's. They were vocal in supporting women's rights, pro-choice, women in the work place, etc. What happened to those women who are now voting to strip away everything they fought for decades ago? The people that they were all those years ago would have wanted better for the younger generation. Now that they are older, they have become the old people yelling "get off my lawn." What the hell happen to the hippie generation? The hippie generation is now 80+ years old. Hippies will always remain hippies. There are probably not a lot of them still around. 😆 The ones trying to take away women’s rights are the 30-50 year old conservative Christian’s. It's not the women who were marching for peace, for women's rights, for abortion rights. We're still out there voting for those same things. The Christian right has emerged as a voting power and that's who opposes all we fought for. We never got the Equal Rights Amendment passed because of a woman named Phyllis Schlafly and the traditional homemakers who wanted to maintain the status quo. Those are the women you're talking about. Some hippies are over 80, but the movement affected many of us who are much younger than that and yes, we're still around. We're boomers, but we stopped a war; we struggled for the very rights that women have in the workplace now; we got abortion legalized. We had to put up with $#*^ you can't imagine. Now we're just seen as the "get off my lawn" generation who f*^%ed it up for the rest of you. It's easy to make us a straw man and blame everything on us, but there's enough bad behavior to go around, including inflationary practices which harm the very people they are meant to help.
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