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Post by peasapie on Nov 4, 2023 11:28:36 GMT
I’ve been reading an essay in NYT with this excerpt: If you’re fortunate to live long enough, eventually you get The Call. Sometimes it’s an actual call, sometimes a social media post or a conversation on the street. But the message is the same: A friend of your youth has died.
The death of Matthew Perry was sad for all the reasons it is sad when a gifted, nimble, charming performer who has shared his struggles dies too young. But it was deepened by the particular relationship of “Friends” to its audience. If you connected with the show the way the show wanted to connect with you, the weekend’s news was a global version of The Call.
It got me thinking about why the loss of a certain celebrity sometimes hits us so hard. It feels like we have a relationship with these people, yet how can we have a relationship with someone who doesn’t even know us? And in the case of a tv show, how can we mourn a character who is a creation of a writer’s imagination?
It’s an interesting essay to think about, and if you have a Times subscription I recommend reading it. But what I wanted to ask is whether any public personality’s passing felt like a personal loss to you.
For me it was Diana. She was around my age, had her kids when I did, battled an eating disorder as I did, suffered in a difficult marriage and remained a strong presence in her children’s life as I did, and was brave in the face of AIDS patients, as I wanted to be. She felt like a friend and something of a role model for me, and like many I was devastated when she passed.
So. How about you? Which well known person’s passing affected you most and why?
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Post by lainey on Nov 4, 2023 12:03:27 GMT
Honestly, none of them. I feel sad for the people that loved them and they left behind but it's a fleeting emotion, I don't dwell on it and I don't grieve for celebrities.
I fully expect to be the odd one out here btw. Also, I'm not a cold hearted bitch, honest.
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Post by smasonnc on Nov 4, 2023 12:31:32 GMT
Princess Diana, definitely. It didn't even seem real.
John Lennon. He was so young and it was such a shock to see him violently murdered when he had espoused peace so vocally. I stayed up all night listening to his music.
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Post by leannec on Nov 4, 2023 12:34:39 GMT
It was definitely Diana ...
I had trouble processing the news ...
She was an influence on my life growing up and I really admired everything about her ...
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Post by quinlove on Nov 4, 2023 12:56:43 GMT
Matthew Perry, without a doubt. I listen to audible books every night to help me get to sleep. My books, I have about 20 or so, are memoirs or biographies. That way I can start or stop at any given point, unlike a novel. I like it when the book is spoken by the author.
I purchased MP book last year when it first was released. Not sure why I picked his book - as I had never even watched one episode of Friends ! Crazy, I know. That has since changed.
I find his voice very easy to listen to. It’s soft and draws you in. As most people who have soft voices will do. Matthew has an interesting and complex life story to tell. And he tells it all. Most nights I listen to his voice as I fall asleep and he is still talking to me whenever I wake.
Last week, with the horrible news of his sudden death ( I believe he was sober and in a very good place, that his heart just gave out at the worst possible time ) friends and family were texting me or calling me to see if “ I was alright “. They all knew how close I felt to Matthew. I was alright, just very sad and shocked. Listening to his voice this week really helped me. He’s still with me in that way. RIP dear Matty. You so deserve it. 🤍
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Post by jenb72 on Nov 4, 2023 14:53:20 GMT
Robin Williams
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Post by stampnscrap1128 on Nov 4, 2023 14:54:04 GMT
John Denver. His songs spoke to my soul. They still do.
I was very sad when Steve Irwin died but his kids have really picked up where he left off. I have a lot of fondness for them. Princess Diana for sure. She and I had our children within a couple months of each other so I related to that plus I just liked her so much.
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Post by padresfan619 on Nov 4, 2023 14:58:39 GMT
Anthony Bourdain was a big hit for me.
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Post by stampinfraulein on Nov 4, 2023 15:31:15 GMT
Anthony Bourdain. Robin Williams. the above two were just so very sad because I hate that they fought so hard against mental pain and felt like this was the only way to find relief.
Leslie Jordan, that just seemed so unfair. Someone who brought joy and light and happiness to so many people just gone.
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Post by littlemama on Nov 4, 2023 15:36:04 GMT
Honestly, none of them. I feel sad for the people that loved them and they left behind but it's a fleeting emotion, I don't dwell on it and I don't grieve for celebrities.
I fully expect to be the odd one out here btw. Also, I'm not a cold hearted bitch, honest.
Agreed. Sometimes I feel a momentary sense of shock (when it is someone young) and I empathize with people who knew that person, but I dont grieve celebrities.
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Post by scrappinmama on Nov 4, 2023 15:41:43 GMT
Kurt Cobain's death rocked me, especially the way it happened. Robin Williams for the same reason. And Anthony Bourdain. Matthew Perry hit me hard because that show was so much part of my 20's and 30's. I still watch an episode a night. And he was my age, so there is that added shock.
I can't imagine being a loved one trying to process your grief in the public eye. I saw that there was drone footage of Matthew Perry's funeral. How disgusting. They can't even grieve in peace.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Nov 4, 2023 15:43:02 GMT
While it's sad to lose a celebrity or someone popular and well known. A death of someone that I didn't know personally, doesn't leave me distraught. It more of a sadness, that they will no longer be around to share their gift of whatever they are known for.
Robin Williams death was sad and hard. A reminder of no matter how someone's life appears on the outside, behind closed doors can be a completely different story.
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Post by paget on Nov 4, 2023 15:43:45 GMT
Honestly, none of them. I feel sad for the people that loved them and they left behind but it's a fleeting emotion, I don't dwell on it and I don't grieve for celebrities.
I fully expect to be the odd one out here btw. Also, I'm not a cold hearted bitch, honest.
Agreed. Sometimes I feel a momentary sense of shock (when it is someone young) and I empathize with people who knew that person, but I dont grieve celebrities. Same for me. Probably the most for Matthew Perry just because I watched friends so many time alone and with my dds, but no grief, not dwelling on it, etc. I always find the celebrity deaths affecting people very interesting as it just doesn’t with me.
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Post by wezee on Nov 4, 2023 16:08:53 GMT
Robin Williams
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Post by snoopy on Nov 4, 2023 16:20:39 GMT
For me, it is Tom Petty. I had seen him in concert just six weeks before he died. We were in row 14, almost center stage, and I loved every second of the show. His music really speaks to me, and I listened to almost nothing but Tom Petty for a year after he passed. I still listen to his music and SiriusXM channels frequently. I don’t enjoy many TV shows or movies, so the deaths of actors don’t affect me much, but musicians do.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Nov 4, 2023 16:22:45 GMT
Princess Diana. I was 16 when she married and followed her entire life in the spotlight. It was so shocking when she died. It wasn't her death so much as watching the grief of an entire country at her death.
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Post by christine58 on Nov 4, 2023 16:24:42 GMT
Robin Williams Matthew Perry Harry Chaplin—- mainly because he died in an accident shortly after he was our graduation speaker at the state University College in Geneseo, New York. His either half brother or stepbrother graduated with us, and his speech was amazing. Then to learn that he died about a month later in June/July of 1981. I would also have to say that their deaths didn’t devastate me. It just made me sad.
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Post by epeanymous on Nov 4, 2023 16:40:54 GMT
Princess Diana, definitely. It didn't even seem real. My mother got me up in the wee hours to watch her wedding when I was small. I was in my first year of law school when she died; my row of women (alternative, older) was kind of cold to the row of women in front of us (sorority, younger), but when we got the news, we all bonded over it and became genuine friends. ETA: Kurt Cobain affected me a lot at the time. I was a senior in college, and had been listening to grunge generally and Nirvana specifically all through.
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Post by peasquared on Nov 4, 2023 17:28:58 GMT
Paul Walker and Prince. Brandon Lee, too.
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Post by paulao on Nov 4, 2023 18:04:08 GMT
David Bowie. My sadness at his death continues.
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Post by johnnysmom on Nov 4, 2023 18:15:21 GMT
While I’m a huge Friends fan (I fall asleep watching/listening to it every night) and am definitely sad about Matthew Perry I think Robin Williams’ death hit me harder just because it was such a painful reminder that you never know what is going on behind the scenes in someones life.
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Post by gar on Nov 4, 2023 18:23:50 GMT
No celebrities deaths have affected me that deeply really but Princess Diana’s death was incredibly shocking and felt surreal being part of that history in a way.
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Post by disneypal on Nov 4, 2023 18:56:13 GMT
While it's sad to lose a celebrity or someone popular and well known. A death of someone that I didn't know personally, doesn't leave me distraught. It more of a sadness, that they will no longer be around to share their gift of whatever they are known for. I feel the same - if I don’t know someone personally, I may feel a bit sad but it doesn’t dramatically affect me. That said, the celebrity that I was upset to hear of his passing and I still really miss his presence, is John Candy.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Nov 4, 2023 18:58:18 GMT
Matthew Perry has probably hit harder than most as he is barely older than me and Friends was such a staple in my young adulthood. Then reading his book where he really laid bare his struggles - I was really pulling for him. I usually am not one who really connects with celebrities in the same way others do.
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Post by Gem Girl on Nov 4, 2023 19:17:26 GMT
I don't know how much it affected me, per se, but I was bothered by Kate Spade's passing. Suicide is always sad, but seeing somebody so successful and admired choose that exit is a reminder that human hearts can be fragile regardless. That she was leaving behind a 13-year-old daughter (whom she implored not to blame herself) compounds the heartache.
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Post by emptyskullz on Nov 4, 2023 19:52:07 GMT
Jim Henson, the death of Kermit the frog was huge for me. He and the muppets were a huge part of my childhood. Him and Chester from Linkin Park.
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Post by katlady on Nov 4, 2023 19:55:09 GMT
Deaths that shocked me - Princess Di, JFK Jr.
Deaths that saddened me - Prince, Donna Summers, Freddie Mercury, Luke Perry, David Cassidy.
I am late to liking Queen/Freddie Mercury, but I’ve been watching lot of YouTube videos of their concerts, and Queen was amazing. Freddie had an amazing voice and I love to listen to him sing. Their songs in concerts are so much better, in my opinion, then their recorded stuff.
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Post by lisae on Nov 4, 2023 19:58:28 GMT
Matthew Perry's death has hit me harder than celebrity deaths usually do. I think it is because I had just listened to his narration of his book.
I can't think of any other that affected me that much.
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Post by birukitty on Nov 4, 2023 20:03:17 GMT
Princess Diana, definitely. It didn't even seem real. John Lennon. He was so young and it was such a shock to see him violently murdered when he had espoused peace so vocally. I stayed up all night listening to his music. This is my answer as well.
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Post by compeateropeator on Nov 4, 2023 20:12:23 GMT
Affected is a pretty generic term. Any death of someone I know, know of, have respect for, or somehow has been a part of my life certainly affects me and causes me to think, reminisce, reflect, etc.
Most deaths affect me in some way, so really too many to name. But that said…John Prine, Jimmy Buffett, Tom Petty, and David Bowie all hold a little place in my heart and gave me a lot of pleasure and memories throughout my life and definitely affected me in some way.
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