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Post by workingclassdog on Dec 15, 2023 19:43:11 GMT
I'm just tossing out something rattling in my brain. Would you move to another state if it was cheaper. Much cheaper. You could enjoy doing things like trips. Maybe not even have to work, but that would not be part of the equation.
Everything would be more affordable, and you wouldn't have to feel like you are just taking two steps forward and two steps back all the time.
PROS (in my case) Closer to my mom and sister (who both live in different states but definitely be closer to them, especially my mom. And my sister who is fighting cancer. Cost of living Closer to my bff Could afford to go back and visit friends/grandbaby/DD/see my sister and mom DH and DS would most likely be on board esp DH. DS would consider it being he can't afford living here either.
CONS Move away from DD/grandson Move away from a few close friends
Like I said this is totally not something on our agenda but I know if I threw it out DH would be packing up in a heartbeat.
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Dec 15, 2023 19:48:35 GMT
It sounds like it might be a good move for you. I can't imagine living somewhere where housing costs, in particular, are 3-4 times more than they are here for similar properties. I would have trouble reconciling the prices!
Would you be moving somewhere with any family? It sounds like you would be moving away from everyone, even though it is closer to some. I live 2.5 hours from my family, and it is still a trip to visit, rather than just hop in the car and visit for a bit.
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Post by Mel on Dec 15, 2023 19:48:53 GMT
I have done a lot of moving in my lifetime. In my current situation, if I chose to move, I'd likely have to do it alone. All of our family is here, we both have jobs we like, the cost of living isn't too bad (Iowa).
I think your "Pros" out number your "Cons" in your situation.
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Post by chaosisapony on Dec 15, 2023 19:52:44 GMT
For me it would all depend on the employment prospects. States I have looked into where the housing and cost of living is a lot less also have jobs that pay a lot less so it's just a wash. Right now housing prices across the board are outrageous and with today's interest rates I would be trading to a smaller house but paying a lot more per month for it even considering the large down payment I would have selling this place.
What you've outlined sounds nice I think it just depends on your financial stability and long term goals.
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Post by wellway on Dec 15, 2023 19:56:41 GMT
Based on your pros, I'd definitely consider a move. Something I would think about is what you might need in the future, access to good healthcare options.
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Post by katlady on Dec 15, 2023 19:59:03 GMT
Reading your Pros, I thought yes. But then I saw your con and said no. I would prefer to be closer to my grandchildren than my parents/siblings.
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Post by Crack-a-lackin on Dec 15, 2023 20:09:12 GMT
I would really struggle with a decision to move away from DD and baby. I’m not sure my pro list could be long enough to justify it.
What are the cons that come with a lower cost of living area?Fewer job opportunities? Less access to good healthcare? More rural? Politics that don’t align with your beliefs? I’m not saying these always come with a LCOL area but I would make sure I still had what was important to me in this new area and not just focus on housing costs.
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Post by lindas on Dec 15, 2023 20:13:05 GMT
I did it but only one state over and farther away from family but they’re still within a 2-3 drive. We bought a brand new house, larger than our previous one and at a cheaper price then we sold our house for. I don’t regret it for a minute. I even did a 70 min one way commute to work for a few yrs just to get away from the high costs and ridiculous traffic.
My DS wound up buying a house that’s right in the middle of our old place and the new one so that worked out really well when my DGS was born.
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Post by pilcas on Dec 15, 2023 20:22:35 GMT
Probably not because I like living where I do. I would wonder if it’s less expensive because the area is less desirable. Mostly because all my family and friends are in my area.
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Post by rodeomom on Dec 15, 2023 20:25:11 GMT
Reading your Pros, I thought yes. But then I saw your con and said no. I would prefer to be closer to my grandchildren than my parents/siblings. The con would be a deal breaker for me too.
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Post by Basket1lady on Dec 15, 2023 20:33:43 GMT
For me it would all depend on the employment prospects. States I have looked into where the housing and cost of living is a lot less also have jobs that pay a lot less so it's just a wash. Right now housing prices across the board are outrageous and with today's interest rates I would be trading to a smaller house but paying a lot more per month for it even considering the large down payment I would have selling this place. What you've outlined sounds nice I think it just depends on your financial stability and long term goals. This is a very real possibility. We just bought a house in June of 2023. If we had bought it in September or October of 2022 when we moved back here, we would have had more house and a smaller payment. I ran our payment with October 2022 interest rates and our mortgage would have been $1,200 less. That's a lot if you plan on possibly not working. Also realize what comes with those lower costs of living. It's likely a more rural area with less to offer, so you will find yourself driving a lot more and have fewer choices. Some small towns are welcoming, but will always consider you an outsider because you weren't born there.
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Post by Zee on Dec 15, 2023 21:15:53 GMT
If you're ok with making less money--always a consideration when moving to a more "affordable" area
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Post by 950nancy on Dec 15, 2023 21:28:10 GMT
If I financially couldn't make it or I hated where I lived, yes. I've lived elsewhere and prefer here, so I wouldn't choose to go.
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Post by epeanymous on Dec 15, 2023 21:42:02 GMT
As someone dealing with aging relatives who made a move -- what do you expect from your relationship with your child/grandchild as you get older? It's hard to drive your mom to medical appointments when they live elsewhere.
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Post by Lexica on Dec 15, 2023 22:13:01 GMT
Well, the fact that I just moved from outrageously expensive Southern California to Oregon gives you my answer. I was able to sell my house, pay off all debt, and buy a small home here in Oregon, giving me a feeling of freedom that I will be enjoying the rest of my life. There is no way I could have afforded purchasing a smaller single-story home like what I now own without moving out of state.
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Post by Gennifer on Dec 15, 2023 22:38:47 GMT
I would rather live close to my kids than my mom/sister.
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Post by caangel on Dec 15, 2023 23:07:31 GMT
How far is "closer" to your mom sister? I live on the west coast and have family in WI. Pretty much any where is technically "closer" but doesn't mean it is "close".
I did not grow up near family but my kids have. Once they are settled (if they do) we will try to be close to them. My IL moved from Nor Cal to So Cal to be closer to us and BIL. I'm VERY grateful they did. They are a part of our everyday life and have a a good relationship with my kids.
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Post by anaterra on Dec 16, 2023 1:20:07 GMT
I agree with others who say thats a pretty big con.... i choose grandchild over mother n sister...
It sucks to not be close to them... and the money struggle is not easy... but i couldn't see myself moving away from my kids...
But i dont walk in your shoes
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Post by crazy4scraps on Dec 16, 2023 1:44:48 GMT
I would never move away from my child/ grandchildren. Period. My friend did it and she is constantly expressing some regrets about leaving her kids and grandkids behind.
But having said that, I would also very carefully have to weigh what tradeoffs you’re making to get that LCOL. My sister and now her kids all live in TN and I’m sorry but I could never live there no matter how cheap it is to live or how much more house or land I could have for the money. The local political climate alone would be enough to send me running. Plus what will happen as you age and start to need more help and now you live farther away from your kids and wider support network?
Yes, we pay higher taxes where I currently live but those tax dollars pay for excellent schools, decent roads, better infrastructure, more accessible health care and better supports for seniors.
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Post by Merge on Dec 16, 2023 2:01:51 GMT
I am unlikely to move away from my children. And TBH, quality of life is a huge factor for us - other places may be cheaper, but we place a high value on arts, culture, professional sports teams and good food nearby. Not to mention excellent medical care. So I wouldn’t necessarily move just for cost of living. No point in having a lot of extra money if there’s nothing to do and nowhere to go, and you have to drive hours to the nearest major medical center if you get sick.
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Post by pantsonfire on Dec 16, 2023 3:34:23 GMT
Honestly, no. Cheaper doesn't always mean better.
There are many more things I would have to consider before I even gave it a thought.
Is it a republican run state?
How is the health care system?
How is care of disabled individuals? Do they have state programs for disabled persons? Day programs? Work programs?
Is it a pro life state?
Is it a pro LGBTQ+ state?
How is the weather?
Economic state of the state?
What is the sales tax? Property tax?
How is elder care? Do they have state programs to assist the elderly?
What kind of natural disasters are there?
I live in California. The most expensive state now. Unless there is a huge shift from democrat to republican and someone tries to run our state like Texas and other southern states, I am happy to stay put. We have a vast array of programs for disabled persons, like ds, and pretty darn good health care. Women are also able to choose what is best for them. I don't have to worry that some man is going to tell me what I can and can not do with my own body and health.
We also have the beach, mountain, deserts. Museums galore. Multiple options for shopping. There is no food desert when it comes to produce or specialty items.
So for me, there is way more to it. I couldn't go just on what you listed.
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Post by workingclassdog on Dec 16, 2023 4:48:06 GMT
Lots of food for thought and just what I wanted! I appreciate it. Yes the biggest CON is my grandson. I never grew up living by family. My mom never lived near me. We always lived apart since I was on my own. It’s just what life throws at ya.
Lots of points regarding politics. I got my views which pretty much aligns with most here. But I’m not that political so not really high on my list. That said I’m staying clear of Texas.
We could sell our home and almost buy something outright depending what we find. That is a PRO. Although right now isn’t the best time either!
Oh well it’s just been in the back of my head… I just wonder when we just finally had enough.
I had a friend and her husband just move from here and they lived their entire lives here and just couldn’t take it anymore… maybe I’m envious
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Post by wellway on Dec 16, 2023 6:59:57 GMT
When I was about 8 or 9 years old, my grandmother sold her business and bought the house next door to us. By the time I was 10 we ended up moving to the other side of the country because my Dad got a chance to make a big step in his career.
Just to say if they moved would you still be happy in your present location?
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Dec 16, 2023 11:09:32 GMT
How likely is it that your DD and grandson will not move away from where you are now? If the COL is extremely high where you are now, will they be considering a move at some point?
When DH and I were younger with small children, we moved several times. He worked in home building, and he had several opportunities to move to a hotter market with higher pay. Sometimes relocation is the best way to move up the ladder in your career, and it definitely worked for us.
My point is, while your current location lets you be closer to your GS for now, think hard about whether you can count on that in the future.
Someone in an earlier post mentioned reducing their mortgage by $1200 when they moved to a less expensive state. My total mortgage is only $1200 including taxes and insurance. I can’t imagine paying double that!
I live in a great college town, so we have plenty of stuff going on to keep us entertained, and it’s only an 80 minute drive to Pittsburgh if we want to do more. Our university health system is excellent, so I don’t worry about that, either.
I wish we weren’t a red state, but at least I live in a somewhat blue bubble.
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Post by hop2 on Dec 16, 2023 11:44:27 GMT
While the pros do seem to outweigh the cons, I’m not sure I’d ever move further from my children.
Granted, they’ve moved further from me several times and I’ve managed. But I’m not so sure. Especially while there are babies.
I guess you really have to think about it.
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Post by hop2 on Dec 16, 2023 11:51:13 GMT
When I was about 8 or 9 years old, my grandmother sold her business and bought the house next door to us. By the time I was 10 we ended up moving to the other side of the country because my Dad got a chance to make a big step in his career. Just to say if they moved would you still be happy in your present location? Since moving is not spurred currently by a specific opportunity she can wait until something happens that would become the impetus to move. I do think it’s healthy to think it all thru and keep it in mind so your ready when your ready be it an outside event or the fact that you’ve thoroughly thought it thru.
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Post by peasapie on Dec 16, 2023 12:00:09 GMT
If you are close to retirement I think it’s best to wait til you retire to move to a less expensive living situation so that you maximize your current home value (assuming you own, not rent).
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Post by Rhondito on Dec 16, 2023 13:23:18 GMT
No - I could never move away from my daughter.
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Post by grammadee on Dec 16, 2023 14:21:34 GMT
We could sell our home and almost buy something outright depending what we find. That is a PRO. Although right now isn’t the best time either! Could you SELL your home easily in your high priced neighbourhood? how far apart would you be from your grand baby? We have been a 5 1/2 hour drive from most of ours when they were babies and have managed to make it work. But it was hard when one ds & family moved to BC which is a 2 1/2 hour drive plus a flight.
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