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Post by candleangie on Jan 3, 2024 15:13:16 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 3, 2024 15:30:37 GMT
Seems TFG skates again..
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Post by NanaKate on Jan 3, 2024 20:24:55 GMT
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Post by Lurkingpea on Jan 3, 2024 20:27:14 GMT
Donald Trump. The Former Guy.
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Post by CeeScraps on Jan 3, 2024 23:12:33 GMT
They said today that it really won't be a list. It's a document that is 1,000's of pages long. Within those pages will be names. Get your reading glasses ready!
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Post by gar on Jan 4, 2024 8:47:38 GMT
Being reported as a bit of an anti climax here - no big revelations.
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Post by pjaye on Jan 4, 2024 11:37:05 GMT
I'm already seeing articles with names mentioned...isn't everyone else?
I probably could have guessed a million times and not come close to thinking about Stephen Hawking. There seems to be a bit of hearsay, one victim said that that Epstein told her "Bill Clinton likes them young", now just because Epstein said it, doesn't make it true...but equally it could be true. I do find it interesting that there were obviously a lot of girls involved, and the names we hear are very high profile, very recognizable men, that there haven't been more specific lawsuits. Like Bill Clinton, surely if he was that active...where are the now grown women and why aren't they coming forward and naming him? And Trump, he's another obvious one, I think he's disgusting, but surely anyone now who was trafficked to him in the past would be able to identify him.
Obviously Epstein was a rich & powerful and had other rich friends, but that doesn't mean they all knew & participated. I think it's highly likely that the 'active' ones were mostly the rich, but not always very well known/famous.
Just to be very clear, I believe the victims, I always have and have always posted this in the past, and I think Epstein & Ghislane 100% did what they were accused of, and I think there were plenty of other men involved as well - but I don't think that means that every famous man Epstein ever interacted with knew what was going on and participated.
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Post by sunshine on Jan 4, 2024 12:32:27 GMT
Was Epstein like Harvey Weinstein where it was well known, yet kept quiet, about what he was doing?
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Post by Bridget in MD on Jan 4, 2024 12:40:30 GMT
I'm already seeing articles with names mentioned...isn't everyone else? I probably could have guessed a million times and not come close to thinking about Stephen Hawking. There seems to be a bit of hearsay, one victim said that that Epstein told her "Bill Clinton likes them young", now just because Epstein said it, doesn't make it true...but equally it could be true. I do find it interesting that there were obviously a lot of girls involved, and the names we hear are very high profile, very recognizable men, that there haven't been more specific lawsuits. Like Bill Clinton, surely if he was that active...where are the now grown women and why aren't they coming forward and naming him? And Trump, he's another obvious one, I think he's disgusting, but surely anyone now who was trafficked to him in the past would be able to identify him. Obviously Epstein was a rich & powerful and had other rich friends, but that doesn't mean they all knew & participated. I think it's highly likely that the 'active' ones were mostly the rich, but not always very well known/famous. Just to be very clear, I believe the victims, I always have and have always posted this in the past, and I think Epstein & Ghislane 100% did what they were accused of, and I think there were plenty of other men involved as well - but I don't think that means that every famous man Epstein ever interacted with knew what was going on and participated. Hawkings and MJackson surprised me - Jackson bc I thought he liked young boys and Epstein I thought trafficked young girls. The name I am "glad" to see on there is Prince Andrew (Im not glad there are any names, or a list at all). He's a friggin liar so I hope this makes him look even worse (if that is possible) and at the very least proves that he was lying undoubtedly. Otherwise, I kind of think this whole story is going to be blown way out of proportion. I am not sure this will help any victims unless it is to show once again they are to be believed.
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Post by peasapie on Jan 4, 2024 12:48:07 GMT
From what I’ve read it’s just a list of anyone whose name ever came up, even casually. For example, something like, “We’re going to Atlantic City. Hey let’s call up Trump.” Seems like business as usual with the media, much to do about nothing.
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Post by smasonnc on Jan 4, 2024 14:21:44 GMT
Donald Trump. The Former Guy. That's funny. I've always thought it was "That F*cking Guy."
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Post by pantsonfire on Jan 4, 2024 14:27:50 GMT
pjaye women have come forward in regards to Trump. I am not sure if anything came of it as far as lawsuits. But we all know how that freaking weasel gets out if any wrong doing so...they were probably paid off.
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Post by sueg on Jan 4, 2024 14:49:30 GMT
Donald Trump. The Former Guy. That's funny. I've always thought it was "That F*cking Guy." That works too!
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Post by RosieKat on Jan 4, 2024 14:53:25 GMT
From what I’ve read it’s just a list of anyone whose name ever came up, even casually. For example, something like, “We’re going to Atlantic City. Hey let’s call up Trump.” Seems like business as usual with the media, much to do about nothing. Yeah, from what I thought I heard on NPR this morning (was driving in a crazy rush hour, so I may be wrong here), it is just a list of people who were given permission to have access, not necessarily people who actually, erm, accessed. Kind of like the hopeful VIP list - "Hey, if Stephen Hawking ever wants in, he's in." Those people may or may not have actually accessed.
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Post by gar on Jan 4, 2024 15:15:24 GMT
From what I’ve read it’s just a list of anyone whose name ever came up, even casually. For example, something like, “We’re going to Atlantic City. Hey let’s call up Trump.” Seems like business as usual with the media, much to do about nothing. Yeah, from what I thought I heard on NPR this morning (was driving in a crazy rush hour, so I may be wrong here), it is just a list of people who were given permission to have access, not necessarily people who actually, erm, accessed. Kind of like the hopeful VIP list - "Hey, if Stephen Hawking ever wants in, he's in." Those people may or may not have actually accessed. Exactly.
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Post by hopemax on Jan 4, 2024 16:27:16 GMT
You guys don’t know what the Hawking is in reference to yet? It’s the one thing I know from yesterday’s drop. It’s in a letter between Epstein and Ghislaine where he’s asking her to pay off friends of Virginia Guiffre to provide proof her accusations were false. The examples he used were a Bill Clinton dinner and Steven Hawking’s underage orgy. The context doesn’t really indicate if those were the strongest because they *were* false rumors. Or an alternative, he thought people would lie to protect those two people. Now everyone on SM is trying to one up each other with crude jokes, truth or not truth so I don’t know if there is more actual info. x.com/innercitypress/status/1742703908773085561?s=20
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jan 4, 2024 16:35:02 GMT
I'm not surprised at all - I think it's kind of hilarious that people equate intellect with morality. I knew a ton of people who were amazingingly smart and honestly struggled with relationships - it would not surprise me at all that they looked for guaranteed options.
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Post by dewryce on Jan 4, 2024 21:21:29 GMT
Donald Trump. The Former Guy. That's funny. I've always thought it was "That F*cking Guy." I thought it was “The Fucking Grifter.”
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Post by dewryce on Jan 4, 2024 21:25:12 GMT
From what I’ve read it’s just a list of anyone whose name ever came up, even casually. For example, something like, “We’re going to Atlantic City. Hey let’s call up Trump.” Seems like business as usual with the media, much to do about nothing. Yeah, from what I thought I heard on NPR this morning (was driving in a crazy rush hour, so I may be wrong here), it is just a list of people who were given permission to have access, not necessarily people who actually, erm, accessed. Kind of like the hopeful VIP list - "Hey, if Stephen Hawking ever wants in, he's in." Those people may or may not have actually accessed. I didn’t realize that it was a list for access, and I agree with you that it’s definitely not proof that they did. My questions comes in wondering why he or Ghislaine thought they’d want access in the first place.
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Post by peasapie on Jan 4, 2024 22:14:31 GMT
I'm not surprised at all - I think it's kind of hilarious that people equate intellect with morality. I knew a ton of people who were amazingingly smart and honestly struggled with relationships - it would not surprise me at all that they looked for guaranteed options. Intellect? Like who?
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Post by pjaye on Jan 5, 2024 0:55:58 GMT
Nio, that's Prince Harry!
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