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Post by Lexica on Jan 4, 2024 4:45:36 GMT
I just had someone come to my door that I didn’t recognize. I was in the back of the house when my dog ran to the door, barking. I picked up my phone to check the doorbell video. By the time I threw on a sweatshirt (I was already in my pjs) and went to the door, the guy was gone. But I noticed my neighbor across the street was standing on his driveway so I opened my door and went outside to talk to him.
I called him over to ask if he knew what the guy ringing doorbells wanted at this time of night. I mean, it is not quite 8:30 pm, but it has been dark for a few hours. To me, that is too late to ring a doorbell unless you know the homeowner. I don’t open my door to someone in the dark. My neighbor ended up calling the guy back over to ask what he was doing in the neighborhood. The neighbor had observed him going to everyone’s house on the block, except his and he was suspicious.
The guy said he wanted to talk about the upcoming increase in electric charges. He said he wasn’t selling solar, just educating people. It was weird. I told him it was not a good idea to knock on doors after dark and since he had no brochures to hand out about this supposed electrical price hike, he just looked odd. I did mention to the guy that I was busy in the back of my house when he knocked and I saw him on my security cameras. I wanted him to know that I had his picture. I asked if he had many people answering their doors. He didn’t. It was just very odd. I went back inside and my neighbor stood in my front yard until the guy got in his car and drove off.
So, do you think canvassing a neighborhood after dark is acceptable? Would you open your door? I know I definitely would not have if I hadn’t seen my neighbor standing out front watching. Am I just paranoid?
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Post by femalebusiness on Jan 4, 2024 4:56:16 GMT
I don't answer/open my door even if it is broad daylight. During the day I will look out my kitchen window which looks out over my front porch and door and ask what they want. At night I tell them it's too late, go away, through the door. I do want them to know that someone is home.
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Post by katiekaty on Jan 4, 2024 5:16:54 GMT
We have a big dog. He terrorizes the front door. Period. The amount of barking he can do scares everyone away. I haven’t had a flyer left on my door in at least a year. Food delivery know he’s there and barks and that I won’t open it until they’ve left. After dark, Charlie usually likes to hang out on the rug at the front door. The foyer light is on low and the rug is long so he stretches out. There is no sneaking up!
I don’t answer the door most of the time anyway! That’s what the camera is for! If they get to the door….
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Jan 4, 2024 5:48:21 GMT
If it's someone I don't know, then I don't answer no matter what time of day it is.
With the lame excuse the guy gave, no company credentials or paperwork....my guess is that he is casing the neighborhood for present or future crimes. I would have discreetly gotten a photo of him, his vehicle and his license plate (if it were safe to do so). Then call the non-emergency number to report him. Always better to be safe than sorry.
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Post by Gennifer on Jan 4, 2024 5:56:43 GMT
In the 7 years I’ve lived in this house, we’ve had someone knock on our door unexpectedly exactly twice.
I’d answer, because it’s astronomically unlikely to be dangerous. But I also have a 160 lb dog. 😂
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Post by Lexica on Jan 4, 2024 6:35:22 GMT
If it's someone I don't know, then I don't answer no matter what time of day it is. With the lame excuse the guy gave, no company credentials or paperwork....my guess is that he is casing the neighborhood for present or future crimes. I would have discreetly gotten a photo of him, his vehicle and his license plate (if it were safe to do so). Then call the non-emergency number to report him. Always better to be safe than sorry. I have a video of him from my doorbell camera. I don’t know where his car was parked or what kind it was, but my neighbor told me he watched him get into his car and leave. Since none of my neighbors answered the door to him and he saw my neighbor across the street come out to monitor him, I would think this neighborhood isn’t going to be appealing. Plus I made a point of letting him know about the video. He gave up after talking to my neighbor and I and left. If he had nefarious thoughts, I hope he moves on to another area. I will snap a photo of his vehicle if he returns.
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Post by Lexica on Jan 4, 2024 6:39:12 GMT
In the 7 years I’ve lived in this house, we’ve had someone knock on our door unexpectedly exactly twice. I’d answer, because it’s astronomically unlikely to be dangerous. But I also have a 160 lb dog. 😂 What kind of dog do you have? Mine, the little 12-pounder in my avatar, costs me enough in top quality food, organic dehydrated chicken strip treats, and dental chews. I cannot imagine what a dog the size of yours eats his/her way through in a month.
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Post by monklady123 on Jan 4, 2024 10:49:38 GMT
Well...I won't open my door to someone I don't recognize in the actual daylight, never mind after dark. So no...
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Post by sueg on Jan 4, 2024 11:12:35 GMT
I wouldn't answer the door to an unexpected visitor at 8:30pm, whether it was dark or light.
I do answer the door during the day as I live in an apartment building and we are front of the building, ground floor, so often delivery drivers will ring our doorbell if the intended recipient is not at home. I'll look or speak and see who it is, and - if they are a delivery person in uniform - will answer the door so they can place the package near the correct door.
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Post by melanell on Jan 4, 2024 11:35:24 GMT
I voted "Oprah" because I have never had that happen before, so i can't speak to past experiences.
I also don't have a door camera, so in a hypothetical situation I'm down to two choices---answer or don't. My guess is that I would let the person know that I am aware of them--like putting on extra outdoor or indoor lights, but not necessarily answering the door. BUT, it really comes down to the situation. I'm a "never say 'never'" sort, so I can't say there would never ever be a situation in which I might open the door.
I do think it's a poor life choice to go around knocking on strangers' doors after dark. (At least in the US.) That sounds like a recipe for disaster. People have been hurt/killed doing the same in broad daylight for goodness sakes.
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Post by SabrinaP on Jan 4, 2024 12:30:03 GMT
I don’t answer my door to someone I don’t know light or dark outside.
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Post by ellemkay on Jan 4, 2024 12:45:40 GMT
The only time, day or night, I answer my door is if it's my family coming over to visit. I'm here alone with my 1 year old 24/7 Mon-Fri while my dh works out of state, so I'm not opening the door to anyone. My dogs have been staying at my parents house while I get the house situated, yard cleaned up from my renters, etc so they aren't here yet but when they are, the 90 pound dog is pretty good at alerting me to every thing that comes up, even squirrels. Also, while we're on this topic, can Amazon stop delivering stuff at damn near 9p?? It's unnerving to be sitting here and hear all this rustling noise outside the house, thinking someone is trying to get into the cars. Nothing I've ordered needs to be delivered that freaking late! (Coming soon, doorbell cameras and a new home security system upgrade lol)
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Post by Bridget in MD on Jan 4, 2024 12:53:49 GMT
I voted "Oprah" because I have never had that happen before, so i can't speak to past experiences. I also don't have a door camera, so in a hypothetical situation I'm down to two choices---answer or don't. My guess is that I would let the person know that I am aware of them--like putting on extra outdoor or indoor lights, but not necessarily answering the door. BUT, it really comes down to the situation. I'm a "never say 'never'" sort, so I can't say there would never ever be a situation in which I might open the door. I do think it's a poor life choice to go around knocking on strangers' doors after dark. (At least in the US.) That sounds like a recipe for disaster. People have been hurt/killed doing the same in broad daylight for goodness sakes. We dont have a door camera but are considering. We have a 50lb dog who barks her head off, so in the past, when people come to the door, we open it a crack, and ask what they want.
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Post by epeanymous on Jan 4, 2024 13:33:52 GMT
We have a locked gate with a camera, so unless my lovely children leave it open, you can't get up to the house. I do answer if someone rings; my clients in practice wanted to break in when no one was home, so I want them to know we're home. It doesn't happen often, though--our house is hard to see from the street.
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Post by smasonnc on Jan 4, 2024 14:18:42 GMT
If it's someone I don't know, then I don't answer no matter what time of day it is. This. A neighbor of mine had a "pastor" knock on her door in the afternoon offering to "share the good news of Jesus Christ." She opened the door and after a few minutes, he pushed past her and started looking around. She called out for her husband, who wasn't there, and the guy fled. I've heard of too many home invasions, but I also don't feel like I have any responsibility to a salesman who bothers me at home. Jog on, buddy.
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Post by Gennifer on Jan 4, 2024 14:26:11 GMT
In the 7 years I’ve lived in this house, we’ve had someone knock on our door unexpectedly exactly twice. I’d answer, because it’s astronomically unlikely to be dangerous. But I also have a 160 lb dog. 😂 What kind of dog do you have? Mine, the little 12-pounder in my avatar, costs me enough in top quality food, organic dehydrated chicken strip treats, and dental chews. I cannot imagine what a dog the size of yours eats his/her way through in a month. St Bernard. And honestly, not as much as you’d think… maybe $60 a month? Definitely a lot less than when we had two of them. 😬
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Post by Linda on Jan 4, 2024 15:06:08 GMT
I only open the door to delivery people (FedEx, Amazon, UPS, USPS) or uniformed LEO in general. Everyone I know knows I prefer a heads-up call before they stop by and I have no desire to talk to people I don't know.
my craft room looks out on the front yard (it's in the formal living room off the foyer) and we're one of only two houses on a cul de sac - if you walk or drive down it, I'm likely to see you well before you get out of your vehicle.
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Post by workingclassdog on Jan 4, 2024 15:21:46 GMT
It just depends... I have a large dog who sounds and looks like Cujo so I don't have much to worry about I guess unless someone has a gun. I probably wouldn't answer and let it be. I wouldn't obsess about who it was either. Like going outside and seeing a neighbor and discussing it. I don't think 8:30 is all that late, maybe late enough for sales people but again, I just don't worry about it.
What irritates me is that when a sales person comes to the door and I answer and I say no and my dog is acting like a fool, they continue on with their speech. I can't hear them because the dog is going crazy and they just keep it up. I get rude and shut the door. That bugs me WAY more than the timeframe.
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Post by dewryce on Jan 4, 2024 15:44:54 GMT
Unless I recognize a neighbor I don’t answer the door during the day, much less when it’s dark
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Post by dewryce on Jan 4, 2024 15:48:31 GMT
If it's someone I don't know, then I don't answer no matter what time of day it is. With the lame excuse the guy gave, no company credentials or paperwork....my guess is that he is casing the neighborhood for present or future crimes. I would have discreetly gotten a photo of him, his vehicle and his license plate (if it were safe to do so). Then call the non-emergency number to report him. Always better to be safe than sorry. Next Door and Facebook neighborhood groups are also a great place to post this information. The police may not be able to do anything with it but your neighbors can be on the lookout as well.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jan 4, 2024 16:00:31 GMT
That situation is definitely sketchy. Both of my dogs go completely apeshit even if someone is just walking down the street, and even more so if they are actually coming up our long driveway and up to the house. God help anyone who happens to come up to the house when the big dog is outside, we have invisible fence so it’s possible he could come out from around back and surprise someone at pretty much any time of the day or night between about 6:00 am and 11:30 pm (although when I take him out at night I usually leash him, DH usually doesn’t).
Besides the dogs, we have cameras and motion lights which hopefully help to deter anyone with nefarious intentions. We have a Ring doorbell that still needs to be installed. I think the speaker on the Ring works better than the speakers on the Arlo cameras that we currently have on all of the entrances to the house and garage.
And I agree that 8:30 pm, especially in the winter when it’s already pitch dark, isn’t a smart move for anyone working door to door. If you don’t already have one, I’d put up a No Soliciting sign on your door. In some areas door to door soliciting is prohibited or requires a special permit, so that might be something to look into too.
I also think that the Amazon deliveries that come between 8:00 pm and 7:00 am are insane. I try to avoid placing orders that have those delivery timeframes because I think they’re totally unreasonable.
The weirdest one we ever had was at our old house which was just blocks away from a college campus. Someone came up to the house and actually into our enclosed front porch at something like 1:30 am in the dead of winter when it was like -20°. Of course our dogs went ballistic when they heard the storm door close which woke us up. The person never actually knocked or anything, they just stood there looking out the storm door at the street until we came and turned on the porch lights. They stayed there for a few more minutes, never even turned around to face the inside door, and eventually just left. We figured it was a college kid walking somewhere or waiting for a ride who was looking for a spot out of the wind or something like that but it was still really weird.
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Post by bossymom on Jan 4, 2024 16:16:16 GMT
Door to door salespeople and cold callers are just like a the stupid Temu pop up ads on the internet. Block/ ignore uninvited “guests”.
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Post by hop2 on Jan 4, 2024 16:27:10 GMT
I rarely open my door for people I don’t know. I didn’t use to acknowledge anyone there, after that tactic was used to see if the house was empty for robberies I usually just tell them thru the door not interested because I’m not looking to be involved in a robbery turned home invasion.
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Post by scrapmaven on Jan 4, 2024 16:33:44 GMT
I never open my door to anyone I do not know. However, I always go to the door and talk through it to let the person know that I don't open the door to people I don't know. It lets the person on the other side know that people are home. Our police dept. recommends doing that, due to break-ins.
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Post by Country Ham on Jan 4, 2024 17:13:01 GMT
Shit.. I yell "come in" ... not kidding, don't make me get up and answer the door.
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Post by garcia5050 on Jan 4, 2024 17:22:50 GMT
I have a security door, so I do answer/acknowledge the person and let him/her know that I’m not interested. I always hear that they look for empty homes, so I let it be known that someone is home. If I didn’t have a security door, I’d likely still acknowledge through a window. My house has been robbed twice, both were times when we were not home. My husband likes to ignore, and there have been times when he’s ignored, and then we see the person walking up the side of our house. Then he has to cuss them out.
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Post by papersilly on Jan 4, 2024 17:45:35 GMT
we don't open the door period. we can see/talk to them on the Ring doorbell but we don't open the door.
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Post by Jamie on Jan 4, 2024 18:10:05 GMT
Honestly, even in the middle of the day I won't open my door. Hubby is usually in the basement and he wouldn't be able to hear if there was an issue. Our front door is right next to our LR windows. I will open the window some to see what they want if they just won't go away. We have a no soliciting sign on our door and it's amazing how many people choose to ignore it.
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Post by katlady on Jan 4, 2024 18:11:42 GMT
I also think that the Amazon deliveries that come between 8:00 pm and 7:00 am are insane. I try to avoid placing orders that have those delivery timeframes because I think they’re totally unreasonable. I opt out of the early morning options and just pick a normal delivery time/day. I don't need my stuff at 4AM, or even 7AM. As for the really late deliveries, 8PM-10PM, I guess I can't control that, and I don't even know until delivery day if they are coming that late. At least I have a heads-up and can watch for them. As to the OP, no we don't open our doors to anyone we don't know. Our community is supposed to be "No Soliciting", but they still get in. I do notice though that if they are trying to sell you something, they'll ring the doorbell, then stand really far back from your front door. I guess they don't want to seem like they are intruding into your personal space.
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Post by smasonnc on Jan 4, 2024 18:52:26 GMT
We have a no soliciting sign on our door and it's amazing how many people choose to ignore it. When I lived in NC, the guys selling pine needle mulch ignored my sign so I added, "that means we don't need any pine needles." Sometimes they still rang the bell, so I added, "What part of 'No Soliciting' is confusing?" I would appear at the sidelight and shake my head while making a gesture across my throat. My friends all got a kick out of my sign.
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