Iowa School will have ARMED STAFF

Or maybe it will cost more lives. Because these people don’t have the time to be properly trained. Or to keep up the training. Or the job experience to get used to high stress situations like an active shooter situation. It’s placing armed weapons in the school, in the hands of amateurs. There is a lot more that could go wrong than could go right. 

I would think they would have to pass training and also apply with the authorites for licenses and conseal permits, so there should not be any untrained person handed a gun. I

It can happen any where or any day or any time. You must not have been a scout. The Girl Scout Motto is "Be Prepared."  Better to be safe than sorry. 

Yeah I understand that. Hell whenever I go somewhere I have an escape plan in my head. I have been by this school and like I said previously I didn’t even realize it was more than a preschool. Also, given what I know about Sioux City and their schools this is the last school I would have expected to implement this. Other schools there have had legit problems and threats so I could at least see where they would be reacting out of a place of fear.

P.S. for the record I was in Girl Scouts and was a leader when my oldest dd was in it. I stopped though when I saw how much they exploited the girls during nut sales and cookie sales. It is shameful how much the girls get for their troop. So while I was part of the organization I don’t say that proudly.

All it takes is one loner, who does not feel accepted. You don't need problem kids in a school to have a tragedy happen.

I’m from a small town and know the teachers and staff at the schools pretty well. There are teachers or stuff in every school that I know have been hunters for years and really know gun safety. I would be comfortable with specific teachers carrying but I have also spoken to teachers about the subject. The one in particular that I feel has lifelong experience with guns (high school teacher) said he absolutely wouldn’t want to carry. He said it’s too much of a responsibility, the amount of training he would want would be huge and he just doesn’t feel it’s a good idea. That made me rethink how I felt about it.

more guns for everyone!!! i wouldn't be surprised if the NRA is pushing this stupidity.

1. unconscious bias could provoke, no...WILL provoke problems. it will happen.
and 2. so Mrs. Brown has to live with the fact that she killed a former student last week? I don't think Mrs. Brown wants that or knows what she's getting in to.

This came up in our district (suburb of Columbus Ohio), which has had a couple of knives and guns brought to school, and the board quickly said "NO" not happening.
My children would be out in a hot second if teachers were armed.

As a former teacher and adamantly against arming educators, I have a lot of questions about this new policy:

1. Who is purchasing the firearms? Are they privately owned or owned by the school district?
2. Who carries the liability insurance if a firearm is discharged accidentally?
3. What happens if a teacher's weapon is taken/stolen? Who is responsible?
4. What (if any) training is done before the district allows a teacher to carry a gun at school?
5. If a student takes control of a teacher-owned gun and that gun is used in a crime, who is liable? Is the teacher liable and can face prison?
6. If an armed teacher fails to act during a school shooting, can s/he be held liable for the deaths of teachers and/or students?

I’m in Indiana.

Part of an OP/ED in the Indy Star in April 2023 re: Indiana HB 1177 for funding for arming and training teachers.

In Part:

“ Teachers are not soldiers. In Indiana, educators are already underpaid and lack the resources needed for what they are tasked to do. We in the legislature cannot also ask teachers to be on the front lines, protecting their classrooms from armed intruders. The amount of training that this bill would require them to have to carry a handgun in their classroom would also not equip them with the skills they would need to be effective in high-stress situations, which could lead to more students getting injured or, God forbid, killed. Likewise, if a teacher leaves the classroom to pursue an active shooter, who will be in the classroom to protect his or her students?”

The bill Passed and was signed into Law in July 2023.


In additional, a new Indiana Senate bill aims to require every school district in the state to enact a policy restricting cellphone use during classroom instruction. That sounds good in theory doesn’t it. However, to achieve this, schools will purchase Yondr phone pouches. The pouches work by schools setting up “phone free spaces” in their buildings, where students cell phones are locked up in portable pouches. Students can carry the pouches with them throughout the day, but phones can only be accessed with the use of a special un-locking device. Locally, one school system just approved the purchase of cell phone pouches and they will be tested in four schools-2 middle schools and two high schools

So essentially, if anything happens, the students will not be able to contact anybody on the outside and there will be no video proof. Sounds like a recipe for disaster to me.

Reminds me of "When kids are hitting each other with sticks on the playground, is the answer to give all the kids sticks?"

What if armed teacher is not in the vicinity of the shooter? Are they going to leave students and prowl around the building playing Rambo?

I don't care how much training you have. I don't care if you have hunted extensively. Animal prey aren't armed and you shoot them from a distance. It is a whole different thing we are face to face with an active shooter.