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Post by katlady on Jan 26, 2024 17:23:16 GMT
California is considering a bill that would limit the speed on new cars to 10mph above the speed limit. In theory, it sounds good, but I think it will just cause more problems. For one, you will have millions of older cars without the speed regulator on them. They will still be speeding in and out of traffic. And then, what if the regulator malfunctions. What if you are in 65mph zone but the regulator thinks you are in a 35mph zone. Cars going too slow can cause accidents too. I don’t think this is a good bill and hope it doesn’t pass. www.yahoo.com/news/california-bill-mandate-cars-device-203340940.html |
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Post by onelasttime on Jan 26, 2024 17:27:03 GMT
You may want to change your title because the way it currently is says it’s a done deal when in fact it’s not.
From your post above. “California is considering a bill that would limit the speed on new cars to 10mph above the speed limit.
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Post by pantsonfire on Jan 26, 2024 17:39:17 GMT
People just need to be held responsible for their driving. Shouldn't be on vehicle manufacturers.
And what happens when out if state?
What happens when a street's speed is updated to either a higher or lower number? That has happened to several streets in my area. Some went up, others down.
Will it think all residential areas are 25? Because are are 35 and 40.
What if there is an emergency? Can you override?
How much more will this cost?
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Post by Merge on Jan 26, 2024 17:40:57 GMT
Think of all the lost speed trap revenue.  |
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Post by pinklady on Jan 26, 2024 17:41:49 GMT
I personally think this is just stupid. More reason why I'm not planning to sell my 2017 vehicle any time soon.
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Post by katlady on Jan 26, 2024 17:47:05 GMT
And what happens when out if state? I think it will just work the same way, as long as the speed regulator knows what the speed limit is. What happens when a street's speed is updated to either a higher or lower number? That has happened to several streets in my area. Some went up, others down. I don't know how it works, but my in-car map knows what the speed limit is and shows it in the lower left corner of the map. So, I assume the speed regulator will somehow know. What if there is an emergency? Can you override? Supposedly, yes, there will be an override. |
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Post by malibou on Jan 26, 2024 18:02:04 GMT
I cannot picture, with the long history of California car culture, how this has a chance in hell of passing.
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Post by garcia5050 on Jan 26, 2024 18:07:01 GMT
I think this is over reach and likely will not pass. There is a ton of backlash already.
And emergency/first responder vehicles will be exempt.
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Post by wholarmor on Jan 26, 2024 18:10:23 GMT
Think of all the lost speed trap revenue.  There is a small town near here that will nab you for going 1 mph over the speed limit. Everyone sets their cruise control when they got through this town, lol |
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Post by epeanymous on Jan 26, 2024 18:10:35 GMT
I don't know if the technology is really there for this to work well. I do wish we could do more to regulate vehicle size. Things are out of hand with respect to pedestrian safety and vehicles that make it difficult for drivers to see pedestrians, and that is probably my bigger concern. I also think broader automatic ticketing for traffic infractions wouldn't be a bad idea. I'm leery of putting cameras everywhere, but at least they don't have the discretion to decide who to stop (and don't stop people in ways that obstruct traffic dangerously), and the automatic ticketing mechanism for the bus lane by my house has been *extremely effective* in getting people to stop merging into the bus lane.
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Post by busy on Jan 26, 2024 18:26:37 GMT
I see virtually no chance of this passing.
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Post by milocat on Jan 26, 2024 18:31:27 GMT
California is considering a bill that would limit the speed on new cars to 10mph above the speed limit. What if you are in 65mph zone but the regulator thinks you are in a 35mph zone. Wouldn't it just be governor to control the max speed? Not for every speed zone? So if the max speed is 60 mph, there would be no way to go above 70 mph. But nothing stopping you from doing 70 in a 35 zone. I think commercial vehicles in Ontario and Quebec have govenors. |
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Post by katlady on Jan 26, 2024 18:45:26 GMT
California is considering a bill that would limit the speed on new cars to 10mph above the speed limit. What if you are in 65mph zone but the regulator thinks you are in a 35mph zone. Wouldn't it just be governor to control the max speed? Not for every speed zone? So if the max speed is 60 mph, there would be no way to go above 70 mph. But nothing stopping you from doing 70 in a 35 zone. I think commercial vehicles in Ontario and Quebec have govenors. I don't know. Everything I've read says "10mph above the speed limit." We have some highways in California where the speed limit is 70. Limiting the car to 80 really does not help much on city streets. Yes, we have some vehicles here that will say on them "This truck does not go faster than 55mph", so that technology is already here. |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jan 26, 2024 20:34:31 GMT
I've heard some rental trucks have something like this - but haven't experienced it first hand. By far the biggest issue is the need to sometimes speed up to avoid a crash. I don't know how the override would work, but find it hard to believe it would be easily done in an emergency.
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Post by mellyw on Jan 26, 2024 20:37:28 GMT
Way back in the 90’s, cars in Japan had the most annoying, please make it stop bell chime that would go off if you went over 60 mph. Problem was, it was fairly easy to disconnect, which most people did. If you got clear road on a Japanese expressway, especially around Tokyo where I lived you were going over 60.
Hard to imagine the technology is there to even make this happen, nor the tolerance from the citizens
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Post by Scrapper100 on Jan 26, 2024 20:43:45 GMT
And what happens when out if state? I think it will just work the same way, as long as the speed regulator knows what the speed limit is. What happens when a street's speed is updated to either a higher or lower number? That has happened to several streets in my area. Some went up, others down. I don't know how it works, but my in-car map knows what the speed limit is and shows it in the lower left corner of the map. So, I assume the speed regulator will somehow know. What if there is an emergency? Can you override? Supposedly, yes, there will be an override. It’s not always right. Sometimes it shows a lower and sometimes higher. It’s usually right but not always. I think this is over reach. I hope it gets squashed quickly. |
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Post by Clair on Jan 26, 2024 21:00:11 GMT
This will never pass. Overreach and far to dangerous.
Anyone who drives the freeways SoCal know there are two speeds - stopped and 80+.
There are times when based on other cars speed it is dangerous to drive the speed limit.
There are cities in California that testing automated speed cameras - I believe you will be ticketed for going 11 miles over the speed limit by capturing your license plate on the camera.
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Post by chaosisapony on Jan 26, 2024 21:18:52 GMT
There is no chance of this passing. And let's say it does, more people will just buy their cars out of state which is pretty much what is going to happen once the new gas car ban takes effect in 2035 (I think that's the year!). Honestly, I kind of hope I don't live here by then.
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Post by mom on Jan 26, 2024 21:20:23 GMT
IMHO it's an overreach. Of all the things the government needs to worry about, this is what they are wanting to spend time and money on? Hard pass.
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Post by seaexplore on Jan 27, 2024 4:22:02 GMT
There is no chance of this passing. And let's say it does, more people will just buy their cars out of state which is pretty much what is going to happen once the new gas car ban takes effect in 2035 (I think that's the year!). Honestly, I kind of hope I don't live here by then. Right there with ya! Dh keeps saying we will have to get an e-car next and I do not want it. |
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Post by katlady on Jan 27, 2024 5:25:29 GMT
There is no chance of this passing. And let's say it does, more people will just buy their cars out of state which is pretty much what is going to happen once the new gas car ban takes effect in 2035 (I think that's the year!). Honestly, I kind of hope I don't live here by then. Right there with ya! Dh keeps saying we will have to get an e-car next and I do not want it. SO and I were joking that we will buy our last gas-powered car in 2033 or 2034 and that car will have to last until we can no longer drive.  |
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Post by littlemama on Jan 27, 2024 13:47:29 GMT
I dont think 10 mph over is reasonable, but I also dont think a car needs to be able to get to 140 mph either.
If they require manufacturers to top out the speed at 100mph, I think that would be ok,but a regulator installed on the car to keep the speed within 10 mph of what the regulator thinks the speed limit is would be a no.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jan 27, 2024 14:08:14 GMT
And what happens when out if state? I think it will just work the same way, as long as the speed regulator knows what the speed limit is. What happens when a street's speed is updated to either a higher or lower number? That has happened to several streets in my area. Some went up, others down. I don't know how it works, but my in-car map knows what the speed limit is and shows it in the lower left corner of the map. So, I assume the speed regulator will somehow know. What if there is an emergency? Can you override? Supposedly, yes, there will be an override. But it’s not always right. I use gps all the time to get places for work and there are many times when I’m on a rural road and it says the speed limit is 30 but it’s actually 60. I would be very frustrated if I couldn’t go faster than what my car was telling me. I don’t go over 10 mph faster than the posted speed anyway, and neither do many of the drivers here. I would not want this law. |
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Post by seaexplore on Jan 27, 2024 16:19:45 GMT
Right there with ya! Dh keeps saying we will have to get an e-car next and I do not want it. SO and I were joking that we will buy our last gas-powered car in 2033 or 2034 and that car will have to last until we can no longer drive. Yep. That is probably my reality. 😂. I’ll be 60 in 2034 and will hopefully retire that same year. |
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