uksue
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Post by uksue on Feb 5, 2024 23:50:50 GMT
It's not uncommon for a rectal tumour to be discovered when examining the prostate. That would be easier to treat than bladder cancer.
Hopefully the longevity of his parents and grandparents bode well for his prognosis.
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Post by Tearisci on Feb 5, 2024 23:51:31 GMT
I wish him a fast, speedy recovery from whatever form of cancer he has.
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Post by pjaye on Feb 6, 2024 0:04:29 GMT
It's not uncommon for a rectal tumour to be discovered when examining the prostate That would have already been discovered in previous examinations before surgery, if this was a surprise find during surgery, much more likely to be in the urinary tract.
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uksue
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Post by uksue on Feb 6, 2024 0:48:49 GMT
It's not uncommon for a rectal tumour to be discovered when examining the prostate That would have already been discovered in previous examinations before surgery, if this was a surprise find during surgery, much more likely to be in the urinary tract. Well they did say on a programme I watched earlier that he's known about the cancer for over a week. I'm hoping because I know from my experience in nursing that colon/rectal cancer can be so much easier to treat.
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Post by Lurkingpea on Feb 6, 2024 0:53:08 GMT
Wishing him all the best.
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Post by auntkelly on Feb 6, 2024 6:41:09 GMT
I was so sorry to hear this news. I hope he makes a full recovery.
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Post by Crack-a-lackin on Feb 6, 2024 7:02:52 GMT
I wish him a speedy recovery.
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Post by gar on Feb 6, 2024 7:52:11 GMT
Speculation from an oncologist on the BBC news is that bladder cancer is a likelihood That was my first though because that's exactly what happened with my father, he went in for prostate surgery and it's routine to have a look in the bladder before they start, and that's when they spotted his bladder tumor, prior to that they thought all his symptoms were due to his prostate issues. Even though they initially said the cancer was localised to the bladder and hadn't spread...it had. 6 months later they found tumors in his lungs and 8 months after that he died. I'm sorry about your Dad Pjaye.
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Post by pjaye on Feb 6, 2024 8:07:46 GMT
That was my first though because that's exactly what happened with my father, he went in for prostate surgery and it's routine to have a look in the bladder before they start, and that's when they spotted his bladder tumor, prior to that they thought all his symptoms were due to his prostate issues. Even though they initially said the cancer was localised to the bladder and hadn't spread...it had. 6 months later they found tumors in his lungs and 8 months after that he died. I'm sorry about your Dad Pjaye. Thank-you, it wasn't recent though, almost 10 years ago now. He was the same age as Charles is now.
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Post by oh yvonne on Feb 6, 2024 20:36:36 GMT
I gasped when I heard the news. The poor man, I really and truly hope they caught it early enough so he can be treated successfully.
When I heard Harry is on his way to see his father I felt badly for him. They've been estranged but it's still his dad. Just sad.
I'm also hoping the Princess is on the mend and it's nothing serious for her.
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Post by gar on Feb 6, 2024 20:55:36 GMT
Apparently Harry arrived earlier and spent a little time with his father before they (King and Queen) headed to Sandringham as planned but no one seemed to know where Harry is now. I wonder if he’s already headed back! That would seem crazy but who knows.
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Post by myshelly on Feb 6, 2024 21:25:53 GMT
I don’t think so but no worries pjaye 😊 I checked the first page and didn't see it...must have had a 'boy look'. The traitor is rushing over, he should stay home, I'm sure he'll just make everyone uncomfortable, he's proven he can't be trusted. Instead of flying over quietly, he's already released a statement about it. Did you see the stories today about the helicopter landing to take KC and C to Sandringham just as Harry arrived from the airport? They gave Mr. Markle mere minutes 😂 Reap what you sow, Hazbeen.
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Post by pjaye on Feb 6, 2024 23:29:52 GMT
I haven't read the latest harry news yet...but if that's true, it doesn't surprise me. It would be typical of Harry to act on impulse and rush over there for his own agenda and not check what Charle's plans are. The Harkles are on a downward spiral when it comes to their careers & philanthropy, they haven't been successful at anything on their own, the only thing that has kept them in the spotlight was Harry bitching about his family...they don't have anything else to sell, so now Harry has to do the very performative dash to The King's sickbed to remind everyone that he is the King's son, and still a Royal. Also there's been a big scandal in Africa, with the charity 'African Parks' of which Harry is currently a board member and former President: LinkHarry still hasn't made any public comment about this, nor has he resigned from the charity. So the timing of his father being diagnosed with cancer comes at a good time for him -no doubt he's hoping his caring son act will distract the media from the breaking African parks scandal.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Feb 6, 2024 23:42:26 GMT
I thought I read somewhere 1. His plane from the US took off late due to weather. Still, you would think Charles could adjust his schedule if he really wanted to and give Harry more time. (I think he is going to Sandringham for treatment). 2. Something about the Chancellors of state - is Pr. Andrew still one or did they take his name off the list? I know Pr William and Camilla are 2 of them, I can't remember if there are 4 people or 7 who can act on behalf of the monarchy when the monarch is out of comission...
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Post by gar on Feb 6, 2024 23:59:37 GMT
I thought I read somewhere 1. His plane from the US took off late due to weather. Still, you would think Charles could adjust his schedule if he really wanted to and give Harry more time. (I think he is going to Sandringham for treatment). 2. Something about the Chancellors of state - is Pr. Andrew still one or did they take his name off the list? I know Pr William and Camilla are 2 of them, I can't remember if there are 4 people or 7 who can act on behalf of the monarchy when the monarch is out of comission... The King isn’t having treatment at Sandringham, he’ll travel to London for that apparently, but it’s somewhere he loves and is resting there. I assumed Harry would go there too for a day or two. Chancellors of State won’t be needed at this point- Charles will still be working from home’ doing constitutional stuff. Harry and Andrew are still on the list but it’s unlikely they’d be asked to do anything- it would fall to William, Edward, Anne and Beatrice alongside Camilla
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Post by pjaye on Feb 7, 2024 0:00:38 GMT
Something about the Chancellors of state - is Pr. Andrew still one or did they take his name off the list? I know Pr William and Camilla are 2 of them, I can't remember if there are 4 people or 7 who can act on behalf of the monarchy when the monarch is out of comission... No they didn't take anyone off the list, they just added two more, which essentially means that they won't have to use either Andrew or Harry should the need arise. However currently Charles is still doing his usual duties - apart from public appearances. If we go with the assumption of bladder cancer, the most common form of chemotherapy is directly into the bladder, they put in a catheter and drain out the urine, then they fill the bladder with fluid that contains the chemo drugs and clamp it for an hour, then they let the fluid run out and remove the catheter again. It's done once every 3 (or maybe 4) weeks. My Dad felt a little tired for a day or two, but otherwise he felt completely normal, so Charles keeping up with his paperwork/phone calls etc while he has treatment doesn't seem unusual. Still, you would think Charles could adjust his schedule if he really wanted to and give Harry more time. (I think he is going to Sandringham for treatment). Even though Charles is the King and can technically probably do that, there are a lot of people involved, so why mess them around? The helicopter and pilot booking, the cars/drivers, the Sandringham staff who would have prepared everything including meals etc. Why should he inconvenience all those other people because Harry decides to turn up unannounced?
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Post by mom on Feb 7, 2024 0:15:57 GMT
That would have already been discovered in previous examinations before surgery, if this was a surprise find during surgery, much more likely to be in the urinary tract. Well they did say on a programme I watched earlier that he's known about the cancer for over a week. I'm hoping because I know from my experience in nursing that colon/rectal cancer can be so much easier to treat. So if thats true, I wonder when Harry found out? He seemed to run to the airport when it was announced publicly but I wonder if he knew earlier than that?
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Post by myshelly on Feb 7, 2024 0:25:44 GMT
Well they did say on a programme I watched earlier that he's known about the cancer for over a week. I'm hoping because I know from my experience in nursing that colon/rectal cancer can be so much easier to treat. So if thats true, I wonder when Harry found out? He seemed to run to the airport when it was announced publicly but I wonder if he knew earlier than that? Why would he run to the airport if he couldn’t issue a press release and gain something from it?
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Post by pjaye on Feb 7, 2024 0:41:50 GMT
And in case anyone is still buying into the "poor Harry" narrative...remember on Oprah when Meghan accused the Royals of being racist about Archie and Harry said there was a conversation that "I'll never share with anyone because it would be very damaging to them" It was mere weeks ago that the Harkles mouthpiece Omid Scobie released his book Endgame, once again trashing the monarchy and named Charles & Catherine as the people who made the supposed racist comments...and the resulting dead silence from the Harry. No denial, no outrage about this being false - nothing. Just a few weeks ago Harry was complicit with letting the world believe that his father and sister-in-law said racist things about his unborn child.
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Post by mom on Feb 7, 2024 1:08:34 GMT
So if thats true, I wonder when Harry found out? He seemed to run to the airport when it was announced publicly but I wonder if he knew earlier than that? Why would he run to the airport if he couldn’t issue a press release and gain something from it? Oh I agree. I mainly was wondering if we'd have an interview in a few years claiming he found out from the media and had to travel there while the public gossiped about him and all the trauma its caused.
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Post by gillyp on Feb 7, 2024 1:12:26 GMT
Why would he run to the airport if he couldn’t issue a press release and gain something from it? Oh I agree. I mainly was wondering if we'd have an interview in a few years claiming he found out from the media and had to travel there while the public gossiped about him and all the trauma its caused. Nothing would surprise me but the news here has said that family members, including Harry, were told personally by the King once he knew.
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Post by 950nancy on Feb 7, 2024 3:05:46 GMT
My dad had that and took three different treatments to get rid of it.
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Post by KiwiJo on Feb 7, 2024 3:27:16 GMT
Another type of therapy for bladder or rectal cancer (and many other cancers where an organ is involved) is brachytherapy. Essentially it’s where a radiation-producing pellet is placed actually inside the organ, and means the radiation is very localised.
There are different levels of radiation used in brachytherapy, with some the patient stays in hospital the whole time, but with others they can go home and live their lives with the radioactive pellet in place.
Especially with higher dose radiation pellets, the patient has to avoid contact with pregnant women and children, and some vulnerable adults, while the pellet is in place because they will be emitting low dose a radiation.
It sounds drastic, but is fairly common and successful. It’s probably most often used for prostate, but also for bladder, rectal, breast, even eye cancers etc.
The medical device company where I worked sold kits for people with brachytherapy pellets in bladder or prostate - the person pees through a filter, much like a coffee filter, and then checks in case the pellet was expelled. If it was, the kit also includes little tongs for them to pick the pellet up with, and a special tiny radioactive-proof screw cap container to put it in. They are told the dangers of picking it up 8n their fingers, or allowing it to flush away.
Of course we don’t know if King Charles is having brachytherapy, but if he’s photographed in the vicinity of a pregnant woman then I guess we can assume he isn’t………
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Post by lisacharlotte on Feb 7, 2024 7:11:02 GMT
KiwiJo I had brachytherapy for Cervical cancer. It looked like a microphone 🎤 and was inserted up through the cervix to provide high dose radiation at the tumor site. This therapy happened after I finished 6 rounds of chemotherapy and 5 day a week radiation for 6 weeks. It was kinda creepy with all the wires coming out if my hooha during the procedure. My husband said it looked like the terminator was feeling me up. 😂
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Post by sueg on Feb 7, 2024 7:58:58 GMT
KiwiJo - that sort of radiotherapy (though I didn't know the name) was what I immediately thought when I heard King Charles had been advised against public duties that involved meeting people. I once had an imaging treatment that involved taking some images, then infusing a radioactive substance, waiting a bit and taking more images. I wasn't allowed to leave the clinic between the infusion and second set of images, and wasn't allowed to go back to work - I was a primary school teacher - for the rest of the day after it.
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Post by smasonnc on Feb 7, 2024 12:15:54 GMT
that sort of radiotherapy (though I didn't know the name) was what I immediately thought when I heard King Charles had been advised against public duties that involved meeting people. Well done, you. That's probably 37th on my list of things I'd have thought of and I've had it.
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Post by gramasue on Feb 7, 2024 13:42:08 GMT
Laughing out loud at "Harkles".
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Post by littlemama on Feb 7, 2024 15:00:22 GMT
I read that Charles told the family privately prior to the announcement.
I cant believe people feel the need to turn this thread into a Harry-bashing thread (well, I can believe it, but I find it sad- their family business is theirs). I cant imagine the fake outrage if he did not fly over to see his father.
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Post by gar on Feb 7, 2024 15:12:13 GMT
I read that Charles told the family privately prior to the announcement. Of course, who would let their family find out via the press?
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Post by littlemama on Feb 7, 2024 16:22:30 GMT
I read that Charles told the family privately prior to the announcement. Of course, who would let their family find out via the press? Yeah, I didnt really finish my thought there. It was in relation to the timing of Harry's trip. He had probably known for several days and had made travel plans to go once the public announcement was made, so as not to create a panic if he just flew over before the public announcement. The media made it seem like the diagnosis, announcement, and trip were all in a much shorter amount of time than it really was.
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