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Post by katiekaty on Feb 6, 2024 2:58:50 GMT
Tipping is out of hand these days. We picked up pizza from Dominos today, pickup specials were really good. When I went to pay I signed the ticket and listed no tip. The guy was like no tip? I said no, all that was done was pizza was placed in the box and I swiped the card and completed the transaction. He called the shift manager over, who asked again, no tip? Again, I said no and said why. Y’all they did nothing, no delivery no completion of transaction. So no reason. Manager asked a couple times why I wasn’t tipping and I said a tip is for extra r exemplary service, not because you pester a comtumer or because you think you deserve it!
this happened when I picked Chinese the day and last week at Applebees. There is no extra mile, no extra courtesy, nothing special. Applebees made me fill my own drinks to go!
walmart delivery asks for tips. There drivers are their own employees who are compensated for their mileage. Sometimes I tip if weather is rainy or extremely cold, but hey, you didn’t shop for or chat or ask if ok to sub something. You just carted the crap from your trunk to the house! Drivers don’t really need a tip! Isn’t that what Walmart plus is about? Same with the other store deliveries? I have the Kroger delivery (gift) and they want a tip too! What about when I do pickup? Same thing?
there was a tip jar at the donut shop the other day-drive thru. No thanks. This has been open for at least 25 years and they have never asked before.
what gets me, all of these people are making a bit more than minimum wage. I know that’s not much in today’s world but if it’s not enough, see your employer, don’t be from the customer. If your job, depends on tips as some do, then I am there for you! I totaled the past two weeks tips and , not eating out, food pick up from restaurants and grocery deliveries and a flower arrangement tip, tipping was over $65. Which is crazy because we didn’t do anything that really required any service!
so I am tipped out and if you want a tip from me, I need a really good reason….
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Post by leannec on Feb 6, 2024 3:06:30 GMT
I tip at most places, always at restaurants, tips are usually distributed amongst all employees - servers, kitchen, hosts, etc.
The fact that these people are trying to survive on minimum wage is a good reason for me to cough up 15 or 20%
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Post by breetheflea on Feb 6, 2024 3:14:28 GMT
The local board game store, the frozen yogurt store, and the bowling alley all use those machines that ask for a tip. I know how to decline, but it bugs me because if I'd paid cash (which is more work for the employee) there would be no no-tipping guilt.
At the frozen yogurt store, you fill your own container, and add toppings, the employee pushes the button to weigh the yogurt, and that's it.
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Post by fredfreddy44 on Feb 6, 2024 3:17:55 GMT
A lot of it is the POS (point of sale) system the company chooses to use. I hear a lot of them can't choose a no tip option.
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Post by pilcas on Feb 6, 2024 3:30:32 GMT
A couple of times I have placed online orders from small but expensive shops that had a spot for tips. I don’t really buy the they have no choice, they do have a choice to pick a system that doesn’t ask for a tip.
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Post by YooHoot on Feb 6, 2024 3:34:20 GMT
I tip. I appreciate the people doing jobs that I have no desire to do. So I’ll add a few dollars, tell them I appreciate them and thank them.
I wish I could tip for my order pickups at Target, Sam’s etc. Those workers are my heroes!
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Post by busy on Feb 6, 2024 3:55:03 GMT
Tipping is part of US culture whether or not you like it. Should everyone be paid a living wage by their employer and tipping be phased out? Sure, but take that up with your state legislature and Congress for allowing absurdly low hourly wages and tip credits that count on customers to pay employees' wages instead of the employers.
You can choose not to tip, it's up to you. But tipping is expected in restaurants and other service establishments. Of course people shouldn't be rude about it, but you also shouldn't be surprised if you buck what's expected and people don't appreciate it.
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Post by katlady on Feb 6, 2024 3:57:24 GMT
I feel in some cases, tipping is out of hand. I can say no to tipping. A tip jar when I have to pick up my own order, and get my own drinks, that is a no. Many of our fast food places here, places like McD's, Habit, In-n-Out, etc., don't have tip jars or a tip line on the receipt. If I am served, then I don't mind tipping. I don't do online store pickup or home delivery, but I would tip because I feel like they are doing me a service. I like one mom and pop place we go for take-out food. After you use your credit card, they quickly cancel the tip option so you don't feel obligated to tip them.
ETA - I live in a state where everyone has to earn minimum wage. Yet, we still have the tip culture here of tipping waitresses and waiters. And I think the people the OP encountered were rude and pushy.
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Post by librarylady on Feb 6, 2024 4:15:50 GMT
In a VERY odd happening---3 friends and I met for lunch. All of us tipped appropriately (20%). Later we looked at the receipt and all of us had been charged 33 cents for gratuity. Mine was a $10 lunch, so how did 33 cents play into that?
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Post by Lurkingpea on Feb 6, 2024 4:16:30 GMT
I don't mind tipping for sit down service at restaurants, my hairdresser, valet parking, etc. I do mind tipping fast food restaurants, Starbucks, movie concessions, etc. I had a coffee made and served to me by a robot. A literal robot with no humans anywhere near the kiosk. I was asked to tip. The robot. I declined. It the robots rise I know I will be remembered. I have made my peace with that. The line has to be drawn somewhere.
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Post by seaexplore on Feb 6, 2024 4:22:02 GMT
I don’t tip unless I’m at a sit down restaurant and I don’t have to get my own food or drinks.
If I’m doing YOUR job, YOU don’t get a tip.
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Post by Zee on Feb 6, 2024 4:40:06 GMT
I tip when getting drinks, when eating at a sit-down restaurant, and getting my hair done. Also for delivery services, a ride, that kind of thing.
I'm not ever tipping if I had to go get the food and if the pizza place ever hounded me like that I would have left the pizza there and got something else on the way home. That's over the top.
I sell at events and fairs and cringe when I buy from a fellow vendor that uses the tip line on their Square. I don't use that, I'm the owner and it seems pretty silly to me when I'm the one that sets the prices and makes all the profit. I've had a couple people ask about tips but I always politely thank them and assure them that no tip is needed.
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Post by don on Feb 6, 2024 4:44:11 GMT
I tip 20 - 25% at restaurants and café's. Mostly because I go to the same 3 or 4 places, and I get great service.
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Post by myshelly on Feb 6, 2024 5:28:31 GMT
I tip at sit down restaurants.
I refuse to tip at counter service (Panera), drive thru. (Starbucks), pick up (pizza), or takeout (no matter what restaurant).
OP, I do not tip at Dominos.
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 6, 2024 10:43:32 GMT
I am a generous tipper at sit down lunches and dinners, bars, haircut, etc. I reluctantly tip when I get takeout, although I don’t like it. Around here, at least, this is a recent phenomenon. I don’t feel that putting food into a box qualifies for a tip. But I know that these workers are paid very little, and if they did get wage increases, the price of my food would go up. So I tip.
If you don’t want to tip, just use cash.
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Post by littlemama on Feb 6, 2024 11:13:58 GMT
It is out of control. The servers are constantly on social media demanding higher and higher percentages. We rarely eat out at restaurants anymore- when the prices increase, a percentage based tip increases so servers are getting a "raise" everytime the restaurant raises prices. I dont know about the rest of you, but my wages havent increased. I also know many, many servers who have been able to buy a home outright eith what they have saved from tips. I certainly have not been able to do that! And then there are the servers on TikTok who count out their tips im videos and are routinely bringing home $300 plus for less than an 8 hour shift.
And as for the rest of them, no. Tipping is intended for servers who make sub-minimum wage. It isnt my responsibility to supplement every worker's wages.
I tip $5 for Door Dash and $10 for grocery delivery. Neither of those needs to be percentage based.
Servers who want more money should ask for regular wages from the restaurant owners and we can do away with tipping.
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Post by Sharon on Feb 6, 2024 13:07:09 GMT
That irritates me too. I've never had Wal-Mart delivery ask for a tip. They just leave me order and go. I've never had any contact with them.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Feb 6, 2024 13:18:44 GMT
I tip when getting drinks, when eating at a sit-down restaurant, and getting my hair done. Also for delivery services, a ride, that kind of thing. I'm not ever tipping if I had to go get the food and if the pizza place ever hounded me like that I would have left the pizza there and got something else on the way home. That's over the top.
I sell at events and fairs and cringe when I buy from a fellow vendor that uses the tip line on their Square. I don't use that, I'm the owner and it seems pretty silly to me when I'm the one that sets the prices and makes all the profit. I've had a couple people ask about tips but I always politely thank them and assure them that no tip is needed. I was just going to say I cannot believe the MANAGER was called over and you were asked repeatedly WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Restless Spirit on Feb 6, 2024 13:19:57 GMT
We solved the problem by rarely eating out. In the last week, we’ve eaten at a sit down restaurant for the first time in over 6 weeks. We’ve gotten carry out maybe 3 time. We don’t tip on carry out.
There’s a local FB group for sharing info on restaurants. The latest outrage is the new trend of traditional “sit down” restaurants charging a mandatory “back of the house” fee, in addition to the tip line. The “back of the house fee” is an automatic 15% fee in addition to the menu price. The regular tip can be filled in. Some restaurants that add it on for dine in and carry out. There’s been pushback on the fee for carryout, but it’s still there for dine in.
The minimum tipped wage in my state of $2.13 hr needs to stop. Employers want you to tip so they don’t have to pay wages that equal the states minimum wage. When a tipped employee makes over minimum wage with tips, the employer is only on the hook for the $2.13 per hour instead of the full $7.25 per hour. It’s an outdated, ridiculous, pay structure.
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Post by smasonnc on Feb 6, 2024 13:26:03 GMT
But tipping is expected in restaurants and other service establishments. Of course people shouldn't be rude about it, but you also shouldn't be surprised if you buck what's expected and people don't appreciate it. It's no more expected when you pick up your own pizza than if you bought it in a supermarket. I'd be shocked if Dominos tried to strong-arm me into a tip after I politely declined. I wouldn't be that polite after that and I may have told them to shove their $#*tty pizza. I don’t tip unless I’m at a sit down restaurant and I don’t have to get my own food or drinks. If I’m doing YOUR job, YOU don’t get a tip. Yep. I waitressed in college and it was hard but I made a ton of money for someone my age. I'm a generous tipper for but restaurant tipping is for servers who make sub-minimum wage. I'm not tipping someone who hands me something. DH and I were at a minor league baseball game. We bought two beers, not even good beers, for $11 apiece and the guy turned the screen around. Let the schmuck who's getting the $11 for a can of beer pay the worker. That's like tipping the cashier at Walmart. Not happening.
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Post by Merge on Feb 6, 2024 13:38:43 GMT
I only eat out or get delivery if I can afford to tip. Otherwise, I make my own food/go get my own stuff. Just my preference. I agree that it's part of our culture.
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Post by monklady123 on Feb 6, 2024 13:46:02 GMT
I don't mind tipping for sit down service at restaurants, my hairdresser, valet parking, etc. I do mind tipping fast food restaurants, Starbucks, movie concessions, etc. I had a coffee made and served to me by a robot. A literal robot with no humans anywhere near the kiosk. I was asked to tip. The robot. I declined. It the robots rise I know I will be remembered. I have made my peace with that. The line has to be drawn somewhere. Yep, you are doomed...the robots have you marked down on their list. My ds tells me I'm on that list too because of they way I speak to Siri and Alexa sometimes.... But seriously, if they can play a particular song one day and then the next day tell me they can't find that same song, then I'm going to get mad and tell them they're dumb.
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Post by breetheflea on Feb 6, 2024 14:15:36 GMT
I don't mind tipping for sit down service at restaurants, my hairdresser, valet parking, etc. I do mind tipping fast food restaurants, Starbucks, movie concessions, etc. I had a coffee made and served to me by a robot. A literal robot with no humans anywhere near the kiosk. I was asked to tip. The robot. I declined. It the robots rise I know I will be remembered. I have made my peace with that. The line has to be drawn somewhere. Yep, you are doomed...the robots have you marked down on their list. My ds tells me I'm on that list too because of they way I speak to Siri and Alexa sometimes.... But seriously, if they can play a particular song one day and then the next day tell me they can't find that same song, then I'm going to get mad and tell them they're dumb. I've said "Alexa you're fired" many times, she refuses to go away
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Post by naby64 on Feb 6, 2024 14:34:30 GMT
I think that has got to be a Dominoes thing! I picked up pizza a month or so ago and the kid handing me my pizza, as I was getting ready to drive off, said no tip? Now he said it with a smile on his face and it caught me off guard. I was in a good mood that night and grabbed a $5 bill that I had. I usually have no cash. It was cold and raining and he was popping in and out. I've been there, done that when I was 17. However, had a manager been called over, well, I do think I would have said no and left.
I do tip. When a tip is warranted. If I am sitting down somewhere to eat, or have had services rendered that I do feel a tip is necessary. NOT when I have picked up my order from the pick up hub, not when you have handed me my coffee through the window. I am a grouch today so I really don't need to go anywhere asking for tips I suppose.
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Post by littlemama on Feb 6, 2024 15:38:24 GMT
I only eat out or get delivery if I can afford to tip. Otherwise, I make my own food/go get my own stuff. Just my preference. I agree that it's part of our culture. Tipping waitstaff who are paid a tipped-worker wage is part of our culture. Tipping every single person for everything is not. I tip when I feel it is appropriate and won't be bullied into it otherwise. In the OP, at the point a second person harrassed me, I would not return to that establishment.
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Post by Tearisci on Feb 6, 2024 15:48:45 GMT
I usually tip 10% for takeout because they have to box up the food, give me utensils, etc. I don't think I would have tipped at Dominos because boxing up a pizza whether it's for delivery or pickup is SOP. I would have tipped the driver but not the staff at the store where I picked it up. And I especially wouldn't have tipped if I had been harassed. I'd probably make a complaint about the store as well. That's just ridiculous.
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Post by busy on Feb 6, 2024 16:09:31 GMT
If I’m doing YOUR job, YOU don’t get a tip. Tip or don't tip, but this attitude is condescending to service people IMO. If you're at a counter service restaurant with a self-service drink machine, you getting your drink is not "doing the employee's job." In that restaurant, that's not part of their job. You don't get to decide what is their job and what is not, the company does. I totally understand why a lot of people don't tip in counter service restaurants, but there's no need to make it sound like they don't deserve it because they're lazy. They're working hard at a crappy job.
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Post by crm1367 on Feb 6, 2024 16:37:30 GMT
I don't give 20% in the instances where I'm picking up food and go in and get it myself, but I do give $1 or $2. There is a donut place that I like to go to where you pick out your donut and they just ring it up and the POS always prompts to give a tip. I do the same in that instance where I give $1 or $2. I feel that's different than service at a sit down restaurant which is why I don't give 20%, but still give a buck or two.
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Post by hopechest on Feb 6, 2024 16:39:14 GMT
I do tip at those places. Just because you are picking it up doesn't negate the work they put into it. Making sure order is correct, boxing it up, condiments, etc...
That being said, I'm flabbergasted that the employee would call you out on the no-tip and even call the manager over to reiterate the call out!! That would have totally set me off!
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Post by mom on Feb 6, 2024 17:07:01 GMT
We were in Nashville last week and went to a restaurant that they had a place to tip waitstaff AND a separate place to tip kitchen staff. That was a first for me.
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