iluvpink
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Post by iluvpink on Feb 12, 2024 16:13:19 GMT
We took our first overseas trip to Italy last spring. Now we are planning for London (with one or two day trips outside the city, Windsor and a small town/rural area). Probably a week or a tad more. Thinking either October or Late April/Early May.
Any advice? I've always had a big interest in the Royal family (especially Queen Victoria and her immediate descendants) so depending on the time of year and what's open, we want to see Kensington Palace, Buckingham Palace, Windsor Castle, Tower of London, Westminster Abbey, the V&A and maybe the British Museum and/or British Library.
Any tips on where to stay? Eat, etc? We'd like to stay in a quieter area if possible. We are not big city people and my husband was very overwhelmed with the crowds in Rome. He wasn't able to really relax and enjoy the trip until we spent a week in Tuscany. I told him it would be crowded but he didn't realize how crowded! He'll be better prepared mentally for this trip, but a place to get away at the end of the day that is quiet and has a little breathing room, grass/trees etc would be nice. If it's not ridiculously expensive. I was thinking Kensington area possibly. I would love a small airbnb or VRBO but I've heard of people having trouble with fake listings in London lately.
Anyway would love thoughts from those who have visited etc.
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Post by pilcas on Feb 12, 2024 16:39:49 GMT
I really enjoyed our day trip to Bath. We did it on our own, just took a train.
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Post by wellway on Feb 12, 2024 16:43:04 GMT
Check out Osborne House on the Isle of Wight, off the South Coast www.english-heritage.org.uk/visit/places/osborne/It was used by Queen Victoria for decades. The link has "how to get here" directions, there is a hovercraft option from Portsmouth. Portsmouth is a naval city which was the birth place of Charles Dickens.
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Post by sueg on Feb 12, 2024 16:48:05 GMT
My first thoughts on reading your post was that it is a lot to pack into a week! You will spend a fair bit of time travelling between the sites you’ve mentioned, either on foot or with public transport, and a couple of them (British Museum, Tower of London) are nearly full day attractions on their own. October or late April won’t be as busy as the summer, but you want to visit places that are very popular, so don’t really have a ‘low’ time. I second the suggestion above of Bath - I have a couple of friends who live there and it looks lovely.
Whatever you decide, you will have a great time - London is a fabulous city with so much to see and do. I can’t really comment on places to eat - we tend to just wander around and find something that looks good each day and it often depends on where we have been or our plans for the evening - near the theatre district if we have tickets to a show, or back at our hotel if we just want to chill.
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Post by wellway on Feb 12, 2024 16:50:26 GMT
Just so you know, the tours of the inside of Buckingham palace are only in the summer, July and August.
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Post by scrappinmama on Feb 12, 2024 16:50:27 GMT
We did a day trip to Windsor, Bath and Stonehenge. It was a long day, but we saw a lot! If I had to do it again, I would try to find a tour that did 2 of those things and not all 3. We had to run through Windsor quickly because we wanted enough time to see the Chapel as well. Bath and Stonehenge we did not feel as rushed and had plenty of time.
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Post by ntsf on Feb 12, 2024 17:18:54 GMT
we stayed at the astorias belgravia hotel.. a small hotel 1 block victoria station.. very centrally located.. it is a small place.. the rooms were tiny, the bathrooms remodeled and large.. and a big back patio (both inside and outside) for breakfast. many business people there and good value. lots of places to eat in immediate area. it was not noisy.. though just off a main street. In old row houses.
I would cut down the places you want to see to 3-4, then maybe one day trip. going overseas you are going to be jet lagged. 3-4 hours at the v and a, or the british museum... maybe go visit one grand house in the country. we loved the museum at greenwich and the nautical museum there.
if you want a quiet but fab art museum, check out the Courtauld Gallery at Sommerset house (on the thames). it covers 400 yrs, is a small place, lovely tea available..and not so overwhelming.
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Post by gar on Feb 12, 2024 17:27:59 GMT
Bath is a stunning city - not quiet but not as vast or hectic as London.
I agree that you have listed an awful lot to cram in - maybe narrow it down a bit?
Where to eat? There are a million places from the Shard to a traditional back street pub serving pie and mash so it just depends where you are, how much you want to spend and your tastes. Unless there’s somewhere famous you are keen to eat at (The Savoy or something) I would sort that when you’re here.
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Post by epeanymous on Feb 12, 2024 17:35:58 GMT
If you like royals, you could put Hampton Court Palace on your list -- that gets you out of the crowds a bit without a particularly long trip.
I like to do the super crowded stuff (Tower of London and Westminster Abbey, eg) first thing in the AM when they open -- they are still crowded, but it gets worse mid-day. Then I go to places that I like but that are more walking-around places (like parks) or a little less popular (like the cabinet war rooms) later on.
Does your husband like soccer (football)? One thing I did with my twins last year (who are soccer fanatics) was take them on some stadium tours, which was fun (we did Chelsea and Arsenal, and saw a game at London Stadium, which is in the Olympic Park -- the Olympic Park is also cool to walk around). I only mention it because those were also pretty low-key and not at all crowded, even though we were there in May and the city generally was mobbed.
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Post by ~summer~ on Feb 12, 2024 17:44:51 GMT
Do you have ChatGPT (AI) on your phone? I’ve found it gives really good itineraries. I am going to London 4 days next month - we will do just one day trip with a tour to the Cotswolds. We are staying in Mayfair neighborhood near Grosvenor Square.
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Post by malibou on Feb 12, 2024 17:53:43 GMT
I posted this in response to someone else after we got back in Dec. We have been many times, so very little of my list hits the big touristy things. However, many of those things are very cool and not crowded. We did stay in Airbnbs. One in South Kensington and one in Hammersmith. Both were great, but very different from each other. We also wanted to be able to chill at the end of the day, so these worked.
Sky Garden in the walkie talkie bldg - tickets are free a week in advance, or you can reserve a bar reservation for a cocktail, or even dinner in one of the 3 restaurants and have access to the Sky Garden. I recommend going while it is still light out and staying thru sunset into darkness. You won't regret the views from up there. Two things nearby are The Monument to the Great Fire, which you can climb the 100+ steps to the top of, and the smallest statue in London - I'll leave you to discover it.
Madison - it is on the top (6th, I think) floor of a shopping center right near St Paul's Cathedral. On your way up to the rooftop bar on the elevator, you have a full glass elevator with the most gorgeous view of St Paul's Cathedral. Definitely a dusk into night thing. We did the Queen's Walk along the southbank, it ends at St Paul's Cathedral.
Columbia Road Flower Market - if you are there on a Sunday 8am - 2pm. Its truly a delight. A pleasant walk from Old Street station will get you there in about 20 min. There are other stations that are also about a 20 min walk. Bethnal Green is one and maybe Liverpool Street. You can also take the overground to Hoxton and have a 7 min walk.
If you are looking for an outstanding fish dinner, I cannot recommend strongly enough Fish Central! I love fish, all fish, I've lived near the ocean for most of my life, BEST FISH DINNER EVER. Closest underground is Old Street.
Covent Garden is a fancier market, and has a bunch of high end stores and nice restaurants.
Old Spitalfields has all kinds of vendors and a lot of food carts with loads of yummy food choices.
Borough Market is a classic, but I strongly recommend you avoid Saturday. It's just crazy packed. If you do go to the market, it's worth standing in line inside for the paella and outside, by the seating bleachers, for the pork sandwiches.
Chez Abir Restaurant is a Lebanese restaurant that is outstanding, and we've eaten a lot of Lebanese food in London. It is on the far west side of Kensington/Earl Court area. Can't remember nearest underground, but it is a 10 min walk from it.
Somerset House has an incredibly amazing collection of art, in a former estate, that is magnificently set up so that you see each piece with informative descriptions of the art and the house. Nearest underground is Holborn.
John Soane's Museum is a treat! The guy was an architect that gives us that very broad arch you will see in the bridges crossing the Thames as well as at the top of the red telephone boxes. His house is full of curiosities, I mean every surface full, but the guy had money, so it's massively cool stuff. If you go, ask the docents you come across for their favourite thing in the house. They are very knowledgeable.
If you go out Portobello Road way, stop in at Biscuiteers. They have the cutest biscuits ever! A biscuit for my Peaps!
Hope this helps!
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Post by Linda on Feb 12, 2024 18:27:52 GMT
I really enjoyed our day trip to Bath. We did it on our own, just took a train. oh good - it's on our itinerary for October and we'll be going on our own as well. iluvpink - I'm headed back to England for the first time in 30+ years in October. We're only staying two nights in London at the end of 2-week visit and are booked in the Comfort Inn on Edgware road - my sister is doing the bookings etc...so my guess is that it's reasonably priced, convenient to a train station (I think she said Paddington), and decent but not luxury. I do know we're planning a river boat ride on the Thames. Are you renting a car or using public transport? We're buying a BritRail pass ahead of time and will be using that for the majority of our trip - I think ours is an 8day pass.
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iluvpink
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Post by iluvpink on Feb 12, 2024 18:55:23 GMT
Thanks for the responses so far, great info. We know it's a lot, that's why I'm hoping for closer to ten days, but we'll see. I've seen some websites saying Buckingham Palace is open in October, others do not. In any case, that will probably strike that off the list, especially since we're leaning towards late April/May. And I don't have a ton of interest in the British Museum/Library so that's probably one to cut. Whoever mentioned Osborne House, that is definitely something I've always wanted to see. We'll have to see how reasonable that is. I'd say my absolute must sees if no BP, are KP, Windsor Castle, Westminster Abbey, Tower of London and the V&A. Seeing Osborne House would be a dream. What I've REALLY always wanted to see is the Royal Mausoleum/Royal burial ground at Frogmore. I'd love to see the mausoleum and the burial ground with lesser known royal/descendants of Queen Victoria. But they are currently under renovation with no clear opening year and are only open a few times a year in the late spring WHEN it is open. We'd rather avoid any trips overseas when it could be hot with no A/C. So that isn't likely to ever happen. I'm weird though and love cemeteries, mausoleums etc so this would combine two interests. We do not plan on renting a car, we will use the tube/trains etc. I don't know if my nerves can handle dh's driving on the other side! We rented a car in Italy for our time in Tuscany and it wasn't too bad at times, but other times it was. Dh is an excellent, confident driver, but I am a super anxious person/passenger!
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Post by The Great Carpezio on Feb 12, 2024 19:07:59 GMT
I am going to (kinda) be the lone dissenter I think you can do all/most of that in a week-ish "IF" you want to see and do a lot. i would shoot for the 9 days, so you get a full seven days. I try to do that as much as possible anywhere I go since two days are always for traveling. So much depends on how you travel though. We travel with a fairly full itinerary--but we have learned to slow down more over the years.
If you don't want to drive, we did take the tour (bus) that went to Windsor/Stonehenge/Bath. We did enjoy it, but now I would do it but without the tour, but we like to drive as much as possible when we travel. It is a full day, but you do see a lot in a short time.
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Post by playingcinderella on Feb 13, 2024 0:50:01 GMT
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Post by supersoda on Feb 13, 2024 2:03:28 GMT
We visited in late April a few years ago and the weather was lovely and the crowds very tolerable. (We visited between Christmas and New Year's a year ago and the crowds were miserable--I won't do that again, but it was our only choice with college kids.) On our first day we wandered into Hyde Park and enjoyed the beautiful, blooming gardens. It was one of my favorite experiences and totally unplanned. Early in our trip we did a boat tour of the Thames, which gave us a little bit of history and helped us understand the layout of the city. On our more recent trip we really enjoyed the V&A. We had brunch at mycocotte.uk/menu/ the day we visited and it was very good.
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Post by curiouscrafter on Feb 13, 2024 2:10:32 GMT
Follow secret.london and PrettyLittleLondon on IG, good recos.
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Post by AussieMeg on Feb 13, 2024 7:06:15 GMT
I really enjoyed our day trip to Bath. We did it on our own, just took a train. Bath is a stunning city - not quiet but not as vast or hectic as London. My dad and aunty went to the UK and went north and west. Bath was their favourite place. I met up with them later, and we headed south. I love the south coast of the UK. I wish I'd got to see Bath though.
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Post by smasonnc on Feb 13, 2024 12:14:26 GMT
On our first trip we stayed the Premiere Inn Southwark. It's across the river with wonderful views, it was very reasonable at the time, and there's a historic pub attached where we had a drink on the river each night. It's close to a tube station so you can get anywhere quickly. DH worked there so we had an apartment. Since then, we've usually stayed in Air BnBs.
Our favorite thing to do is Ronnie Scott's Jazz Club. We like "Ray Gelato and his Giants of Jive" who plays there a lot. It's a historic, old school club with lamps on the tables and you feel like the Rat Pack might come strolling in. A lot of bands have recorded albums there and When Charlie Watts died, the Stones gave a concert there called "Watts at Scotts."
Favorite tourist things are Westminster Abbey and the Tower of London.
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Post by scrapcat on Feb 13, 2024 18:46:17 GMT
Last year we stayed in Belgravia at the Lime Tree hotel, it's a boutique hotel, no elevator, great little breakfast restaurant within. They have an outdoor courtyard area, where you can sit/eat in nice weather, it was cold when we were there so didn't partake. It was a great location, definitely quiet, but still close to get to the tube stations we need. Easy to walk to Buckingham and Westminster, Trafalgar. Need a tube ride to Mayfair and further out. We were within a 10 minute walk to Victoria station or 2 other tube stops that got us to most used lines. It's pretty easy to navigate, you can plan it out on apps, I like Citymapper and Google maps. Your itinerary is ambitious, but definitely doable. It just depends how long you plan to stay at places and if any/what type of tours. We tend to pick a few things to focus on to see and use audio tours, which then allows us to skip thing we are not as interested in. We used Victoria station to get to Paddington then out to Windsor - super easy. We spent most of the day in Windsor and it was when the chapel was still a receiving line to pay respects to the Queen. I also like Independent Travel Cats for good tips: independenttravelcats.com/
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