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Post by Zee on Feb 27, 2024 23:00:52 GMT
That there are not two actors named Ralph Fiennes and Ray Fines.
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This comes as a most shocking revelation. I was watching a show about Lord Somebody and his motor car collection and his sex scandals, and they kept mentioning his son Rafe but it is spelled Ralph and I fell down a rabbit hole of pronunciations.
Also, the estate is called Beaulieu, which most in this country would probably guess is called "BO-lew" but is actually pronounced BYOO-lee. Like Bueller.
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Post by lesley on Feb 27, 2024 23:07:15 GMT
Every day's a school day, huh?! 😄
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Post by dewryce on Feb 28, 2024 1:37:45 GMT
Wait. Are you saying some people pronounce Ralph like Ray? I’ve never heard that.
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Post by myshelly on Feb 28, 2024 1:42:45 GMT
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Post by Zee on Feb 28, 2024 2:20:20 GMT
Wait. Are you saying some people pronounce Ralph like Ray? I’ve never heard that. Rafe, but I never realized. You'd think I would have put two and two together but I never thought much about it beyond one of them being Voldemort. I guess I realized it's Ralph who is Voldemort but I didn't know it's pronounced Rafe! Or that that is an acceptable traditional British pronunciation! |
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Post by dewryce on Feb 28, 2024 5:03:33 GMT
Huh, I’m apparently sitting next to you on that bench. I guess I’ve never heard his name pronounced before, in a way I attached to him, or it would have stood out to me. I also don’t remember hearing about a Rafe Fiennes either.
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 28, 2024 10:48:06 GMT
I only knew because I heard someone on tv say his name. Is that a common pronunciation of Ralph in the UK? I am curious.
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Post by AussieMeg on Feb 28, 2024 12:10:56 GMT
I did know the correct pronunciation of his name, I have heard it many times. If I'd not heard it pronounced, I would definitely have pronounced it as Ralph (rhymes with shelf) Fines.
ETA: I would have pronounced Beaulieu as "Bo-lew" as well.
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Post by gar on Feb 28, 2024 13:43:49 GMT
I did know the correct pronunciation of his name, I have heard it many times. If I'd not heard it pronounced, I would definitely have pronounced it as Ralph (rhymes with shelf) Fines. ETA: I would have pronounced Beaulieu as "Bo-lew" as well. Hang on...Ralph rhymes with shelf? |
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Post by gillyp on Feb 28, 2024 13:49:49 GMT
Yep its pronounced Ray-f Fines (Ralph Fiennes). I'd say it's not a common pronunciation, more old fashioned or upper class and when he's on talk shows now the host will often say Ralph. Ralph is, ime, the more usual pronunciation for others of that name. Beaulieu - yes, B-you-lee. Don't you just love it!  |
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Post by AussieMeg on Feb 28, 2024 13:55:49 GMT
I did know the correct pronunciation of his name, I have heard it many times. If I'd not heard it pronounced, I would definitely have pronounced it as Ralph (rhymes with shelf) Fines. Hang on...Ralph rhymes with shelf? I bloody well knew someone would pick me up on that, but I didn't think it would be a Brit!  I tried to think of a better rhyming word, but my brain wasn't working. I should have said Ralph (rhymes with Alf). But yeah, in my accent, Ralph and Alf rhyme with shelf and elf. Which I guess is weird, seeing that Aaron and Erin sound nothing alike!  |
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Post by gar on Feb 28, 2024 14:11:25 GMT
Hang on...Ralph rhymes with shelf? I bloody well knew someone would pick me up on that, but I didn't think it would be a Brit!  I tried to think of a better rhyming word, but my brain wasn't working. I should have said Ralph (rhymes with Alf). But yeah, in my accent, Ralph and Alf rhyme with shelf and elf. Which I guess is weird, seeing that Aaron and Erin sound nothing alike! You’re weird 😉😄 |
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Post by rymeswithpurple on Feb 28, 2024 14:22:12 GMT
I think the only reason I knew that his name was pronounced like that was because I was watching something about the movie Quiz Show. (Yes, I know he was in Harry Potter, but I'm not an HP fan.)
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Post by Tearisci on Feb 28, 2024 14:28:09 GMT
I did know it was pronounced like Ray-f as I've been a fan for a while.
Beaulieu I knew because I read a book about the area and they included the pronunciation otherwise I would have said it the way it looks to an American.
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Post by smartypants71 on Feb 28, 2024 14:38:19 GMT
I have long been familiar with the pronunciation only bc this guy has been on my laminated list since I saw Schindler's List. My husband calls him the traditional Ralph just to annoy me!
I just learned a new one yesterday for Boise. I was listening to an audio book, and the narrator kept pronouncing it "Boy-see" instead of "Boy-zee". I googled and apparently all the locals say "Boy-see".
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Post by lainey on Feb 28, 2024 15:33:51 GMT
I'll always think of him as Ray Fines in future  That's not a word I've ever said out loud so I'm not sure what would come out of my mouth! |
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Post by lainey on Feb 28, 2024 15:36:09 GMT
Ralph (rhymes with shelf) Relph on the shelf should be a thing this Christmas. |
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Post by lisaknits on Feb 28, 2024 19:20:51 GMT
I did know it, but I really haven't understood it.
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Post by finsup on Feb 29, 2024 1:52:58 GMT
Also, the estate is called Beaulieu, which most in this country would probably guess is called "BO-lew" but is actually pronounced BYOO-lee. Like Bueller. 😳 Around these parts (Maine) where the last name Beaulieu is not uncommon, we pronounce it Bull-yo or Bull-ya so there’s that. |
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Post by malibou on Feb 29, 2024 14:19:06 GMT
That there are not two actors named Ralph Fiennes and Ray Fines. 🤣🤣🤣 This comes as a most shocking revelation. I was watching a show about Lord Somebody and his motor car collection and his sex scandals, and they kept mentioning his son Rafe but it is spelled Ralph and I fell down a rabbit hole of pronunciations. Also, the estate is called Beaulieu, which most in this country would probably guess is called "BO-lew" but is actually pronounced BYOO-lee. Like Bueller. 😳 I did know his name is pronounced Rayf as I was in England the first time I heard of him. I was surprised to later see it was spelled Ralph. What show were you watching. Beaulieu is one of our favorite places to visit - I was just there over Thanksgiving. Needless to say, there is no mention of a scandal at Beaulieu. I know of Beaulieu because of wellway, and how to pronounce it because of RedSquirrelUK! The motor museum is FABULOUS! There are the ruins of an old Abbey, that is always a treat to read about and explore and the manor house was used as a spy school during WWII. Many notable spies came thru that school, to include several very famous women! |
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Post by scraplette on Feb 29, 2024 15:41:56 GMT
Also, the estate is called Beaulieu, which most in this country would probably guess is called "BO-lew" but is actually pronounced BYOO-lee. Like Bueller. 😳 Around these parts (Maine) where the last name Beaulieu is not uncommon, we pronounce it Bull-yo or Bull-ya so there’s that.  That’s interesting, thank you. Adding to the list with Carolina’s Beauforts, Bo and Boo |
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Post by gillyp on Feb 29, 2024 18:37:34 GMT
Around these parts (Maine) where the last name Beaulieu is not uncommon, we pronounce it Bull-yo or Bull-ya so there’s that.  That’s interesting, thank you. Adding to the list with Carolina’s Beauforts, Bo and Boo If you were to say Beaufort here, it would be B-oh-futt. Beaulieu - B-you-lee Beaufort - B-oh-futt Simple. |
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Post by Zee on Feb 29, 2024 20:01:11 GMT
That there are not two actors named Ralph Fiennes and Ray Fines. 🤣🤣🤣 This comes as a most shocking revelation. I was watching a show about Lord Somebody and his motor car collection and his sex scandals, and they kept mentioning his son Rafe but it is spelled Ralph and I fell down a rabbit hole of pronunciations. Also, the estate is called Beaulieu, which most in this country would probably guess is called "BO-lew" but is actually pronounced BYOO-lee. Like Bueller. 😳 I did know his name is pronounced Rayf as I was in England the first time I heard of him. I was surprised to later see it was spelled Ralph. What show were you watching. Beaulieu is one of our favorite places to visit - I was just there over Thanksgiving. Needless to say, there is no mention of a scandal at Beaulieu. I know of Beaulieu because of wellway, and how to pronounce it because of RedSquirrelUK! The motor museum is FABULOUS! There are the ruins of an old Abbey, that is always a treat to read about and explore and the manor house was used as a spy school during WWII. Many notable spies came thru that school, to include several very famous women! I looked in my Prime video history, it was called Lord Montagu. |
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Post by valincal on Feb 29, 2024 20:07:43 GMT
I would pronounce Beaulieu ‘bow-lyuh’ based on what I learned in French class. 🤓
But I get that the pronunciation of foreign words often becomes anglicized.
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Post by lesserknownpea on Mar 3, 2024 12:48:07 GMT
Knew about Ralph
Surprised by Beaulieu.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Mar 3, 2024 23:22:54 GMT
When I lived in England we went to visit Belvoir Castle, the seat of the Duke of Rutland. No idea how they turned the pronunciation of Belvoir (bel-vwar) into beaver. 🤔
Same with the name Beauchamp (bo-shom) into beach-um.
I lived in Beaufort (bo-furt) NC but have never been to Beaufort (byoo-furt) SC.
I also lived in Augusta GA where the suburban city of Martinez GA is pronounced MARTIN-ez. The t is not really pronounced, it acts more as a glottal stop.
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Post by Zee on Mar 4, 2024 3:47:44 GMT
When I lived in England we went to visit Belvoir Castle, the seat of the Duke of Rutland. No idea how they turned the pronunciation of Belvoir (bel-vwar) into beaver. 🤔 Same with the name Beauchamp (bo-shom) into beach-um. I lived in Beaufort (bo-furt) NC but have never been to Beaufort (byoo-furt) SC. I also lived in Augusta GA where the suburban city of Martinez GA is pronounced MARTIN-ez. The t is not really pronounced, it acts more as a glottal stop. I only knew about "Beechum" because of Outlander. Never would have suspected Beaver! I have known a couple people with the last name Beaver. I wonder if it's just a bastardized spelling? Unless you're Native American, I guess Beaver wouldn't make much sense as a family name since they're a New World animal unless your family chose it after moving here. At least I think they are...like buffalo and raccoons. |
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Post by gillyp on Mar 4, 2024 10:11:47 GMT
When I lived in England we went to visit Belvoir Castle, the seat of the Duke of Rutland. No idea how they turned the pronunciation of Belvoir (bel-vwar) into beaver. 🤔 Same with the name Beauchamp (bo-shom) into beach-um. I lived in Beaufort (bo-furt) NC but have never been to Beaufort (byoo-furt) SC. I also lived in Augusta GA where the suburban city of Martinez GA is pronounced MARTIN-ez. The t is not really pronounced, it acts more as a glottal stop. I only knew about "Beechum" because of Outlander. Never would have suspected Beaver! I have known a couple people with the last name Beaver. I wonder if it's just a bastardized spelling? Unless you're Native American, I guess Beaver wouldn't make much sense as a family name since they're a New World animal unless your family chose it after moving here. At least I think they are...like buffalo and raccoons. Beavers are starting to be re-introduced in the UK after being hunted to extinction here centuries ago and I'm pretty sure there are some family crests from the Middle Ages with beavers on. I think you are correct with it being a bastardized spelling/pronunciation. The record keepers at those times would go on what they thought they heard.  How about these : Featherstonehaugh is pronounced Fanshaw. Cholmondeley is pronounced Chumly. |
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Post by bunnyhug on Mar 4, 2024 17:34:53 GMT
I'm a fairly recent "Rayf"/Ralph realizer, but my more recently recent "what?!" moment was when I realized that "Sin-gin" is a fancy way of saying St.John ... and that I only tumbled to because I was watching a show on Acorn or BritBox with the subtitles turned on  |
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I tried to think of a better rhyming word, but my brain wasn't working. I should have said Ralph (rhymes with Alf). 
