River
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Post by River on Mar 5, 2024 19:20:03 GMT
The full title to this story is actually "Mother of 10-year-old Mississippi boy jailed for urinating in public files $2 million lawsuit" Reading this story had my head spinning. What in the heck were those police officers thinking? And then the judge and his sentence, seriously? I have so many questions. www.al.com/news/2024/03/mother-of-10-year-old-mississippi-boy-jailed-for-urinating-in-public-files-2-million-lawsuit.htmlThe mother of a 10-year-old Mississippi boy who was arrested, jailed and at one point put on probation for urinating next to his mother’s car in a parking lot has filed a $2 million federal lawsuit against the city, police department and the individual officers involved. The lawsuit, filed by the LaTonya Eason, is seeking damages for excessive use of force, negligence and intentional infliction of emotional distress, according to the complaint filed in U.S. District Court. Named as defendants are the Senatobia (Miss.) Police Department, police chief Richard Chandler, Lt. Zachary Jenkins, four unnamed police officers, and the City of Senatobia, a city of roughly 8,300 people located about 40 miles south of Memphis, Tenn. Last August, the 10-year-old boy and his sister were waiting outside an attorney’s office in Senatobia while their mother conducted business inside. The boy told his sister he needed to use the restroom, but she pointed at a sign on the law firm door which read “No public bathroom,” according to the federal complaint. Shortly thereafter, the boy told his sister he could not wait any longer and opened the door of his mother’s vehicle and relieved himself behind the door, “so as not to expose himself.” A Senatobia police officer saw the boy and notified Eason, issuing a verbal reprimand. Eason also reprimanded her son “as any parent does to their child,” according to the lawsuit. Eason thought the incident over, but Jenkins, accompanied by four other Senatobia police officers, arrived on the scene. Now, with five officers responding to a report of a 10-year-old urinating in public, Jenkins told Eason her son was being taken into custody and transported to jail. Although not handcuffed, the child was placed in the back of a police cruiser and transported to the city jail, where he remained until being taken into Tate County (Miss.) Youth Court, where he was found to be a “child in need of services,” after which he was released back to Eason’s custody. The child had to twice appear in youth court and was put on probation, with the judge further ordering him to meet with a probation officer once a month, take random drug tests, abide by an 8 p.m. curfew, and write a two-page book report about the late NBA star Kobe Bryant. Eason, however, refused to sign the probation agreement and the case against her son was ultimately dropped. But, according to the lawsuit and attorney Carlos Moore, the damage was already done. “They have to pay this family for what they did,” Moore told WMC in Memphis. “This boy is still emotionally traumatized. He is receiving counseling. His mother has been through a lot. So, we’re here for justice.” The lawsuit says Eason and her son, now 11, have “suffered embarrassment, harassment, PTSD, shock and other physical, emotional, and traumatizing injuries.” Following the arrest, Chandler issued a statement calling the officers’ actions “an error in judgment,” and another statement from the police department said at least one officer had “violated our written policy and went against our training on how to deal with these situations.” Officers involved was fired in the wake of the incident, with the others disciplined, according to the report. Eason said no one from the City of Senatobia nor the police department has ever contacted her about her child’s arrest. “They’re supposed to protect and serve,” she said, “but they’re not.” “This happened in Mississippi,” Moore told WMC. “This happened in America, and we’re here to say to the City of Senatobia, ‘You have to pay for what you did.’ Senatobia, you can pay me now or you can pay me later. But trust me, you will pay this family.”
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3boysnme
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Post by 3boysnme on Mar 5, 2024 19:31:46 GMT
Wow! That poor child! I hope she wins the suit and that the judge is disbarred. Having the 10 year old boy take random drug tests?!? What the actual fuck?!
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Post by nlwilkins on Mar 5, 2024 20:11:53 GMT
there is wrong all around here How long were the children alone in the car? How old was the sister? How can a ten year old be held accountable when he had no options other than wetting his pants? Yes, what he did was wrong, but it should have been his mother who was held responsible, not the child. Leaving her children in a car so long that the ten year old needed to relieve urgently.
Frankly, leaving children in a car alone without an adult is not something parents should not do.
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Post by Peace Sign on Mar 5, 2024 20:21:50 GMT
white kid - "boys will be boys" Black kid - jail and children services.
i hope she gets a huge payout, although he's still going to have the trauma of being separated from his family.
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River
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Post by River on Mar 5, 2024 20:59:49 GMT
there is wrong all around here How long were the children alone in the car? How old was the sister? How can a ten year old be held accountable when he had no options other than wetting his pants? Yes, what he did was wrong, but it should have been his mother who was held responsible, not the child. Leaving her children in a car so long that the ten year old needed to relieve urgently.
Frankly, leaving children in a car alone without an adult is not something parents should not do. These were also questions I had as well. I need to look for more articles and see if there is more information.
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Rhondito
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Post by Rhondito on Mar 5, 2024 22:54:45 GMT
there is wrong all around here How long were the children alone in the car? How old was the sister? How can a ten year old be held accountable when he had no options other than wetting his pants? Yes, what he did was wrong, but it should have been his mother who was held responsible, not the child. Leaving her children in a car so long that the ten year old needed to relieve urgently.
Frankly, leaving children in a car alone without an adult is not something parents should not do. I agree with this while still not agreeing with what the officers did. FFS, I wonder how many times each of them has taken a leak outside? The first officer could've just talked to the boy and explained that's not something he needed to do in public, and then had a talk with the mother about what happened and leaving her kids in the car alone. But no, they had to be jerks and now all this has happened.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Mar 5, 2024 23:38:11 GMT
That’s all pretty messed up. Yeah the kid shouldn’t have peed outside but I would fault the mom for leaving her kids waiting alone for so long. If she wouldn’t have done that everything else that followed wouldn’t have happened.
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lesley
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Post by lesley on Mar 6, 2024 1:01:07 GMT
I’m not going to find fault with the mother here. It doesn’t matter how long she left her son. Maybe she was only away from the car for ten minutes. Maybe the boy didn’t pee before he left the house - far more interesting things taking his attention. If she was visiting a lawyer, she maybe didn’t realise that things would take longer than she anticipated. Maybe her kids were alone for forty minutes. Not ideal, but maybe she had no alternatives but to leave them in the car. There are so many variables, so many maybes that we don’t know, but however long they were alone, nothing can justify how the kid was treated. He knew to leave the car door open to be as discreet as possible. Why on earth did the police officer who spotted him not just reprimand him? And leave it at that? The escalation here is astonishing and completely unjustifiable. And yet somehow not a surprise.
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Post by dawnnikol on Mar 6, 2024 1:05:26 GMT
Another article.I don't care what the Mom was doing, those officers were in the wrong. I hope she wins and maybe those arresting officers could write a book report on how they could've done their jobs differently.
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Post by epeanymous on Mar 6, 2024 4:18:52 GMT
You know it is bad when they actually fire police officers.
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Post by epeanymous on Mar 6, 2024 13:48:17 GMT
I’m not going to find fault with the mother here. It doesn’t matter how long she left her son. Maybe she was only away from the car for ten minutes. Maybe the boy didn’t pee before he left the house - far more interesting things taking his attention. If she was visiting a lawyer, she maybe didn’t realise that things would take longer than she anticipated. Maybe her kids were alone for forty minutes. Not ideal, but maybe she had no alternatives but to leave them in the car. There are so many variables, so many maybes that we don’t know, but however long they were alone, nothing can justify how the kid was treated. He knew to leave the car door open to be as discreet as possible. Why on earth did the police officer who spotted him not just reprimand him? And leave it at that? The escalation here is astonishing and completely unjustifiable. And yet somehow not a surprise. I have been thinking about this and while I wouldn't leave a ten-year-old alone in a car (my mother, who was overprotective, had zero problem leaving me much younger than that in the 1970s, though, and I walked to school alone at five), I would leave a ten-year-old with a teenaged sibling, for example. The article doesn't say how old the sister was, unless I missed it; I infer that she was older from the fact that the ten-year-old seemed to be asking her for advice. I can only speak for myself here, but I wouldn't even consider it potentially questionable parenting if the older sister was, say, fifteen.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Mar 6, 2024 14:48:49 GMT
I’m not going to find fault with the mother here. It doesn’t matter how long she left her son. Maybe she was only away from the car for ten minutes. Maybe the boy didn’t pee before he left the house - far more interesting things taking his attention. If she was visiting a lawyer, she maybe didn’t realise that things would take longer than she anticipated. Maybe her kids were alone for forty minutes. Not ideal, but maybe she had no alternatives but to leave them in the car. There are so many variables, so many maybes that we don’t know, but however long they were alone, nothing can justify how the kid was treated. He knew to leave the car door open to be as discreet as possible. Why on earth did the police officer who spotted him not just reprimand him? And leave it at that? The escalation here is astonishing and completely unjustifiable. And yet somehow not a surprise. I have been thinking about this and while I wouldn't leave a ten-year-old alone in a car (my mother, who was overprotective, had zero problem leaving me much younger than that in the 1970s, though, and I walked to school alone at five), I would leave a ten-year-old with a teenaged sibling, for example. The article doesn't say how old the sister was, unless I missed it; I infer that she was older from the fact that the ten-year-old seemed to be asking her for advice. I can only speak for myself here, but I wouldn't even consider it potentially questionable parenting if the older sister was, say, fifteen. I wanted to come back in here and say basically the same thing. I wouldn’t ever leave my ten year old alone in a car or anywhere out in public. At home, for a very short time, we did leave her alone at that age but only if we knew that the retired neighbors would be home next door. If the sibling was older I would take less issue with that part of it.
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Post by MichyM on Mar 6, 2024 15:40:40 GMT
Who knew this was about a black child before opening the thread. I’m disgusted by the police in this instance. I hope They face disciplinary actions.
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Post by 3boysnme on Mar 6, 2024 15:49:51 GMT
Who knew this was about a black child before opening the thread. I’m disgusted by the police in this instance. I hope They face disciplinary actions. It happened in Mississippi. Sometimes it seems that the entire southern states have not evolved.
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Post by Lurkingpea on Mar 6, 2024 16:26:57 GMT
Who knew this was about a black child before opening the thread. I’m disgusted by the police in this instance. I hope They face disciplinary actions. I think we all did. I hope the officers involved in the arrest are all fired. And who ever put the absurd probation terms out as well. What the actual eff where they all about? Regarding the length of time that he might have been out there to need to use the bathroom. As a mother of a boy who would make her child use the bathroom right before anytime we left the house and have him run to the bathroom when we got to the store, some kids just have those kinds of bladders. She could have been in there 5 minutes.
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Post by busy on Mar 6, 2024 16:36:04 GMT
The kid is ten years old and the sister is older (but unsure how much older). While leaving them in the car may not be what some peas would choose to do, there does not appear to be any law against it in Mississippi, so maybe dial back on the judgment of the mom. She did not cause this; the police did.
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Post by disneypal on Mar 6, 2024 19:32:39 GMT
That is crazy. I can see talking to the child and making sure he is aware that isn’t acceptable and is illegal, even, but then let it go, he was 10 for crying out loud.
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Post by katiekaty on Mar 6, 2024 22:25:37 GMT
They should have had an officer stay with the kids by the car while one called child protective services and the emails officers went into the building and the irresponsible mother and put her butt in jail and fined her ass for causing the child’s distress and leaving him with an unqualified sitter. 2 million is too much . Pay for the children’s education needs through school and college so they can get out of the situation they are in in the future and if the are to remain with the mom, counseling and parenting sessions with visits to insure the kids needs are met.
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Post by busy on Mar 6, 2024 22:35:50 GMT
They should have had an officer stay with the kids by the car while one called child protective services and the emails officers went into the building and the irresponsible mother and put her butt in jail and fined her ass for causing the child’s distress and leaving him with an unqualified sitter. 2 million is too much . Pay for the children’s education needs through school and college so they can get out of the situation they are in in the future and if the are to remain with the mom, counseling and parenting sessions with visits to insure the kids needs are met. How the hell can you determine the sister is an “unqualified sitter?” We don’t even know how old she is, except older than 10. The mother was not breaking a law - what do you want to put her in jail for?
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Post by Lurkingpea on Mar 6, 2024 22:43:30 GMT
They should have had an officer stay with the kids by the car while one called child protective services and the emails officers went into the building and the irresponsible mother and put her butt in jail and fined her ass for causing the child’s distress and leaving him with an unqualified sitter. 2 million is too much . Pay for the children’s education needs through school and college so they can get out of the situation they are in in the future and if the are to remain with the mom, counseling and parenting sessions with visits to insure the kids needs are met. I am incredibly hopeful that your job is not anything that involves making decisions over other people's lives. You are assuming way too many things here. No one seems to know how old the other child was. I work with kids. Having to use the bathroom 2 times in 10 minutes is not all that unusual. Having sudden and out of nowhere need to use the bathroom is not unusual. Throw the mom in jail? Are you for real? Saying your reaction is over the top is a gross understatement.
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Post by pilcas on Mar 6, 2024 22:57:31 GMT
When I was around 10 or 12 back in the 70s most of the kids on my block rode their bikes around the block alone or with a sibling or friend. Nobody’s parents were ever questioned. And yes, I knew it was not a white kid who did that.
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Post by 3boysnme on Mar 6, 2024 23:13:23 GMT
They should have had an officer stay with the kids by the car while one called child protective services and the emails officers went into the building and the irresponsible mother and put her butt in jail and fined her ass for causing the child’s distress and leaving him with an unqualified sitter. 2 million is too much . Pay for the children’s education needs through school and college so they can get out of the situation they are in in the future and if the are to remain with the mom, counseling and parenting sessions with visits to insure the kids needs are met. When I was 11, I babysat for children ages 1, 5 & 7. Basically just played with them and helped them get ready for bed. This boy was 10, almost 11. He is old enough to be by himself for a bit. He was old enough to know not to just whip his penis out and pee in the middle of the sidewalk. He attempted to hide himself from the public. That took intelligent & mature thought. $2 mil is plenty to send a message to the police/court system that they just cannot treat a child like that. A stern lecture would have been enough. There is no reason to detain the boy or his mom. We don't know why she didn't bring the child into the lawyer's office with her. Perhaps if she did, they would have allowed him to use their restroom. When I think of no public bathroom, I think that is so people can't just walk in from the street and ask to use the restroom. The mom was a client, and I bet they would have allowed her son to use the restroom. But the mom doesn't need to be jailed or have her children taken away from her for that.
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Post by katiekaty on Mar 7, 2024 2:58:52 GMT
When I was around 10 or 12 back in the 70s most of the kids on my block rode their bikes around the block alone or with a sibling or friend. Nobody’s parents were ever questioned. And yes, I knew it was not a white kid who did that. this isn’t the 70s anymore.
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Post by Peace Sign on Mar 7, 2024 16:13:04 GMT
They should have had an officer stay with the kids by the car while one called child protective services and the emails officers went into the building and the irresponsible mother and put her butt in jail and fined her ass for causing the child’s distress and leaving him with an unqualified sitter. 2 million is too much . Pay for the children’s education needs through school and college so they can get out of the situation they are in in the future and if the are to remain with the mom, counseling and parenting sessions with visits to insure the kids needs are met. i'm sorry...what mom did is NOT child abuse, even though her decision may differ from yours. how privileged of you to always have qualified sitters and money to pay for them at your disposal.
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