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Post by Fidget on Mar 28, 2024 20:26:53 GMT
I go to a local beauty school for services on occasion. Usually a wash / blow dry or a facial. Today I went for a facial, the cost is very reasonable, $60 for a 90 minute facial. Up until today there has ALWAYS been a strict no tipping policy. The student performing the service needs the hours and experience to graduate.
Today that seems to have changed. As I was leaving and paying for my service I noticed a large sign on the counter saying that tipping was now accepted but not expected. I did not have any cash with me and the new tipping policy is cash only so I did not tip.
Would you continue to not tip or be sure to have cash next time? Would you tip 20% or something less since it's a student who is learning and practicing? I'm conflicted about this new policy. I'm Curious to hear what the peas would do.
Thanks for all your replies - I'll be certain to have cash on hand next time for a tip!
Also - I wanted to add that most hair and nail salons in my area prefer cash tips rather than cc, it is definitely because of the cc fees.
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Post by workingclassdog on Mar 28, 2024 20:29:21 GMT
I was always under the impression that students couldn't accept tips. But it has been a long while since I have gone that direction. I don't carry cash so most likely I wouldn't even think about it until I was there.
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Post by lindas on Mar 28, 2024 20:32:45 GMT
Would you tip 20% if you went to a regular spa instead of the school? If yes the have cash next time and tip, I would.
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Post by myshelly on Mar 28, 2024 20:34:37 GMT
I think I would try to find out more info first.
I was under the impression you can’t accept tips if you aren’t licensed (although this would be different in every state as it’s a state regulated issue). I would wonder if the tips are actually going to the student doing the service or if they’re going to the person supervising the service.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Mar 28, 2024 20:41:56 GMT
I'm highly suspicious of what's going on if you can only tip in cash. Sounds like they're trying to circumvent the law some way - either as the student isn't supposed to accept tips, or the tip is actually going to someone else. Maybe I'm just a cynic, but it raises serious red flags for me.
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Post by littlemama on Mar 28, 2024 20:46:24 GMT
I wouldnt tip.
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Post by peasapie on Mar 28, 2024 20:54:46 GMT
I would absolutely tip. Students need money too.
Many salons don’t allow tips to be included in a charge card. Sometimes they allow Venmo.
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Post by snyder on Mar 28, 2024 21:34:47 GMT
Indicating that the tip must be cash; sounds like maybe they aren't tracking it and it goes into a pool and is divided amongst the students.
Eons ago, as a teen, son worked at a car wash where they had tip jars. All the cash was counted and paid out according to hours worked and it was on his pay check.
With the students not getting a paycheck, something just doesn't seem right here, so as pp poster said, I would find out more about the process.
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Post by snyder on Mar 28, 2024 21:35:19 GMT
I would absolutely tip. Students need money too. Many salons don’t allow tips to be included in a charge card. Sometimes they allow Venmo. Wow. Sound so fishy to me; like they are trying to avoid paying taxes on their tips. |
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Post by twistedscissors on Mar 28, 2024 23:51:07 GMT
When I was in beauty school 34 years ago, we were allowed to accept tips. Remember that in most states the school is calculated by hours, just like a job. We clicked in and out each day and had to have 1800 hours to graduate. So it was a full time “job” without pay. Most of the students depended on tips for gas money to get there or to buy lunch each day.
But I’m sure rules are different in each state or even each school if it’s privately owned.
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Post by MichyM on Mar 29, 2024 0:17:34 GMT
I would absolutely tip. Students need money too. Many salons don’t allow tips to be included in a charge card. Sometimes they allow Venmo. Interesting statement. In my 62 years I’ve never been told that I could not tip with my CC. I would tip 20%. |
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Post by myshelly on Mar 29, 2024 0:25:50 GMT
I would absolutely tip. Students need money too. Many salons don’t allow tips to be included in a charge card. Sometimes they allow Venmo. Interesting statement. In my 62 years I’ve never been told that I could not tip with my CC. I would tip 20%. Yea, my nail salon even has an ATM inside so you can withdraw cash to tip. It’s rare to find a nail salon here that lets you put tips on a card. |
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Post by katlady on Mar 29, 2024 1:14:18 GMT
I would absolutely tip. Students need money too. Many salons don’t allow tips to be included in a charge card. Sometimes they allow Venmo. Wow. Sound so fishy to me; like they are trying to avoid paying taxes on their tips. I think it is more to avoid fees on the tip. My dog’s groomer prefers cash tips because the CC company will put a fee on the tip, so they are not getting the full amount of the tip. |
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Post by snyder on Mar 29, 2024 1:28:42 GMT
Wow. Sound so fishy to me; like they are trying to avoid paying taxes on their tips. I think it is more to avoid fees on the tip. My dog’s groomer prefers cash tips because the CC company will put a fee on the tip, so they are not getting the full amount of the tip. It goes state by state and some states prohibit charging the credit card fee to the employee's tips. I think all states should not allow the credit card fee to be dedcuted from tips.
But what you are saying makes sense.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Mar 29, 2024 2:10:52 GMT
I would tip.
If the establishment is collecting the payment for services rendered, they probably want the students tipped on cash so they keep it separate and the owner-establishment doesn't have to write checks to the students for their tips that they were given.
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Post by hookedonpeas on Mar 29, 2024 3:59:15 GMT
I frequent our local beauty school for massages, facials, and waxing. They have a separate iPad type device on the check out counter but to the side. You can tip with your card separately through that, and you are able to chose your student. It does charge you a fee to do it that way, however. I make sure I always have my 20% in cash and hand it directly to the student. Even with the tip I pay WAY less then any salon and the service has been excellent!
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Post by gina on Mar 29, 2024 4:17:50 GMT
None of the nail salons I have frequented have accepted tips on the CC. There are always signs that say tips are to be in cash. I tip nails, massages, my hair girl and my dog's groomer in cash always.
And as far as the OP's question, yes I would certainly tip!
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Post by peasapie on Mar 29, 2024 10:23:38 GMT
I think it is more to avoid fees on the tip. My dog’s groomer prefers cash tips because the CC company will put a fee on the tip, so they are not getting the full amount of the tip. It goes state by state and some states prohibit charging the credit card fee to the employee's tips. I think all states should not allow the credit card fee to be dedcuted from tips.
But what you are saying makes sense.
The business pays a 3% fee on the entire cc transaction, so someone - either the employee or the business - loses 3% on tips left by card. In my state, businesses often add a 3% premium for credit card use at restaurants and gas stations. It may depend on the state you live in. Not sure. |
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