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Post by leeny on Apr 13, 2024 21:02:15 GMT
When I was in high school many, many, many years ago Drivers Education was included in our high school curriculum as an elective class. We had in class instruction plus actual driving with six students to a station wagon. It was one semester long. Then I took an after school driving class through my high school so I could learn to drive a manual transmission. This was taught at our local fairgrounds and the instructor had a radio connected from his headset to our car radio and two students two a car drove around an empty parking lot. I got my learners permit at 15 years old and my license on my 16th birthday. Same for DH.
When my kids were in high school we had to enroll them in private lessons and pay for them. I believe they had a one day in class course and two days driving. None of my three kids were in a hurry for their license even after taking the courses. They all received learners permits at 15, but DS didn't get his license until he was 19 and the Coast Guard said he needed it when he enlisted. DD #1 & 2 got theirs at 18.
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Post by AussieMeg on Apr 13, 2024 22:05:38 GMT
I think Drivers' Ed at school is a great idea! We don't have anything like that here. You have to be 18 here to get your licence. A couple of states is 17. I personally think 16 is waaaaay too young to be out there on the roads by yourself, but when I was that age, I would have LOVED it! I asked my mum and dad if I could put my address down as a relative's house in another state, so I could get my licence a year earlier. Shock horror, they said no! (So, I just drove illegally every now and then, in older friends' cars, for two years until I was old enough to get my licence.) Back in my day, you couldn't get your Learner's Permit until you were 17. You didn't have to have any set number of hours before you went for your licence. These days, you can get your Learner's Permit when you're 16, and you have to have 120 hours of supervised driving, including a set number of night hours, before you're allowed to sit for your licence at 18.
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Post by littlemama on Apr 13, 2024 22:18:28 GMT
My mom had drivers ed as a class in school, I believe for a semester.
When I had drivers ed, it was at the school, taught by teachers from the school, but it was in the summer. There were 2 sessions. If your bdaybwas a different time of year, you did private- my dh did private as he had a spring bday and couldnt take it the previous summer. It was 3 weeks, 4 hours a day. 2 hours of classroom and then 2 hours of either Range or Road. As soon as you were done, you could get a license.
The schools dont offer it anymore, they have companies that they contract with and the lessons are at the school. Drivers ed has 2 segments, only 6 hours of road experience (and I think they cut that short whenever they could.) After that, it is up to the parents to find time after work, after the students homework, around extracurriculars to let them drive- 50 hours, 10 of which had to be night driving. Second segment was only a day or two.
We didnt let DS drive on the freeway for several months to a year after he got his license. He needed more experience before we were comfortable with that.
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Post by breetheflea on Apr 13, 2024 22:33:40 GMT
I took driver's ed at my high school (after school) but it was not taught by anyone from the school. There were classroom days, and driving days. Probably 3-4 days a week (2 hours) for 2-3 months. I took it at the end of my senior year. The driving part was in the driving instruction car with the extra mirrors and brake pedal. The first driving lesson, I remember trying to pull out of a parking space, and the instructor slamming on his brake...
Now if you are under 18 you have to take a class (private, which is around $600 depending on which driving school you use) 25 hours of classroom lessons and 5 hours of driving. To get your actual license you have to have a ton of hours documented of night driving, freeway driving etc. After you are 18, you don't have to do any of that.
ETA: parallel parking was not on my driving test where I lived. In Washington it isn't, (unless I'm mistaken) but backing around a corner is. I have never backed around a corner in my entire life unless they mean pulling out of a driveway... I'm glad I did not learn to drive in Washington!
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Post by peabay on Apr 13, 2024 22:40:49 GMT
the downside to having it be a graded class is that when I was in high school, a girl I know lost out on being valedictorian because the teacher gave her a B in Driver's Ed!
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Post by garcia5050 on Apr 13, 2024 22:53:39 GMT
Way back in 1987, I learned through high school. I think it was a semester elective. A lot of us in honors and sports didn’t have spare room in our schedules, so we had to do a condensed course over the summer. The full semester students got to do simulation, which I thought was neat. I can’t imagine doing the driving portion in a minivan with 6 kids. My street lesson was in a regular sedan with 3 students. That was bad enough. I had to pay $600 for my son to have 12 hours of driving instruction. Since DD waited until she was 18, my husband gave her lessons. I wish it was still offered during school.
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Apr 13, 2024 22:54:23 GMT
I had one semester of driver's ed in high school my junior year. We had to be eligible for a learner's permit within so many weeks of starting the course so we could do the driving practice. Back then, we had to be 16 to get the permit. The little bit of driving we did with the teacher was probably enough to prepare us to pass the driver's test, but certainly not enough to make us "road-ready" without an adult in the car. The big benefit was the insurance discount you got for having an A or B in the class.
And yet, I did not pass my test until my third try LOL. The first time, the car inspection sticker was almost a year old! Mom had the receipt in the glovebox so she did not get a ticket. The garage that did the inspection just didn't put it on. Mom had the receipt in the glovebox so she did not get a ticket, but they had to "fail me" on the test anyway. The next time I hit a cone while parallel parking. I didn't end up getting my license until i was over 17 LOL. I finally managed to pass it in time to get my first job working in a grocery store.
All three of my girls had private instruction, but again, it was not enough to make them road-ready. It did get us an insurance discount, though, and the private lessons taught them to parallel park, which was a good thing LOL, because DH and I both suck at it. WE took them driving in empty parking lots many times before they did the lessons because we wanted them to be good at the basics and leave the harder stuff like parking to the professionals. The oldest got her license at 16 because she couldn't wait to drive. The twins were in no hurry, though. One got hers at 17 because she wanted a job, but the other had to retest for her permit at 18 because it expired at age 18. She got the license shortly after that because they were able to snag a parking spot in their high school lot so they could get home from after-school activities without waiting for me or DH. They turned 18 in August, and school started after Labor Day, so she must have passed her test pretty quick after renewing her permit.
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Post by Linda on Apr 13, 2024 23:27:41 GMT
I don't remember it being a class in high school (grad. 1988) but I never got my license. DH got his at 18 I think - his mother paid for private lessons but still had to take him to the beach parking lot to learn to drive standard as the lessons were only automatic.
AFAIK it hasn't been a high school option for my kids (class of 2010, 2018, 2025). They had to do an online drug and alcohol class ($$) before they could apply for their permit($$) and then if under 18, there's a minimum number of supervised hours required to test.
DS32 had a learners at 16 but didn't get his license until he was nearly 19 and had just graduated - his new boss wasn't happy to find out he only had a learners and told him to get it - he did (there was a company truck he needed to drive at times). Now he drives semis in the Navy.
DD23 got her learners at 15 because she needed the ID for her bank account and it didn't make sense to pay for a state id and then pay again for a learners. She got a second learners when she moved (at 20/21) but doesn't have a license and isn't likely to get one any time soon.
DD17 got her learners at 15 and is chomping at the bit to get a license but doesn't have the driving experience yet. A combination of lack of time on her part and eye surgery/vision issues on dh's. I suspect when we travel next fall right after she turns 18, she'll try to talk her brother into enough lessons to pass the driving test.
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Post by katlady on Apr 13, 2024 23:30:57 GMT
I took Driver’s Ed in high school. It was an elective. I think it was only half a semester. We had a simulator and on-street driving. There were 4 kids to a car. We were bad because one student was a really terrible driver and one time we were all laughing when the student almost failed to stop at a stop sign. The instructor had to use the brakes on his side. The instructor told us to stop laughing and be quiet. Oops!
One big difference from most people I read about here on this board is that many of us did not get our licenses until senior year. Only two of my friends had their license and a car during senior year. The rest of us had to take the bus. I got my license during the spring semester of senior year (age 17) and I got a car just before going to college.
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Post by compeateropeator on Apr 13, 2024 23:58:27 GMT
I graduated in the early eighties. We had driver’s Ed in highschool. It was an elective and a semester long. It included class time and then driving time. The driving time was with two other students. Because there was such a want for the class and limited driving space, they gave preference to people with earlier birthday’s for the first semester. Those of us with later birthday’s got the 2nd semester.
You did not need to take this class to get a license but you did get a lower insurance rate.
We had no requirements to get a license other than having a valid permit, which just required being at least 15 and taking a written test. Many kids (farm/rural/small state ) had been driving for awhile on private property before turning 15.
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Post by workingclassdog on Apr 14, 2024 3:07:14 GMT
I think my driver's ed was through school.. I'm not sure how much time I drove with an instructor. I kinda remember driving with my mom sometimes. Never with my dad.
All three of my kids took driver's ed privately. Nothing is offered at school except those drunk driving seminars they do. Bring a totaled car in and the kids from the drama classes act like they are dead for the day.. something like that. It's a whole day thing.
They take one 8 hour day class and 3 two hour driving lessons. One trip is city driving, one trip is highway driving and one trip is mountain driving. Six hours total. Then they log in 40 hours with an adult when they get their permit. All my kids were licensed around their 16th birthdays. (Well the last one will be 16 in about a month and she is well on her way to finish up all her lessons and time)
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Post by iowgirl on Apr 14, 2024 3:51:24 GMT
I had summer Driver's Ed the summer between 8th Grade and Freshman year. My kids all did the same.
Learners Permit at 14. All three of my kids went to the DMV on the day of their 14th birthday to get that permit! They would have been in 8th grade. That allowed them to drive with any licensed driver supervising in the car.
They took summer drivers ed and after fulfilling all the requirements could go take the test to get their school permit. School permit grants them the ability to drive the most direct route to school and back, no deviations. Now Iowa also has a farm permit, which would have been AWESOME for my kids. That allows them to do farm errands within 50 miles of the farm, and they must be working for that farm.
So they started driving to school/athletic practices before their Freshman year started. They were all good drivers, and had been driving well before 14, lol. The school permit allowed them to drive directly to school and back, and could not pick up passengers, but their siblings could ride as long as they got in the car here at home, and not picked up.
I took them to Des Moines when they had been driving for a while, to learn "city" driving. I tried to find a quiet time of the day, and DSM traffic isn't awful anyways. But I am glad we lived in a rural area!
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Post by seaexplore on Apr 14, 2024 4:24:43 GMT
I graduated in 1992 and remember doing drivers ed in the dark hours before school started for the classroom part- I think it was 6 weeks? Then I did lessons with a simulator. I don't think I ever did on the road driving with an instructor. I didn't get my license until I was out of HS because I had friends who drove and my parents didn't mind taking me places. I was able to ride my bike or roller blade to the pool I guarded at in the summers so no real reason to get a license. I also was told that my choice of vehicles was a 1979 ice blue Malibu station wagon. No.thank.you. I ended up inheriting my great grandmothers classic skylark that I LOVED and that motivated me to get my license.
I'm thinking of taking my 12yo (13 in aug) out driving this summer for some lessons. She can't get her permit until she's 15.5 (she'll be a junior in HS at 16) but I'd like her to start learning now. We have lots of empty parking lots around here so hopefully it'll go smoothly. I cringe at handing over the wheel of my beloved Charger to my kid. LOL
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Post by katlady on Apr 14, 2024 4:46:05 GMT
I ended up inheriting my great grandmothers classic skylark Not to hijack the thread, but my dad had a 1962 Skylark. He loved that car! He bought it new and had it until the 80's, when California started phasing out leaded gas. There was a buyback program, don't remember if it was city or state run, so he sold it. I still remember what the interior of the car was like, and the push button AM radio. Cool car! But, he didn't trust the car enough to let me drive it around L.A. by myself.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 14, 2024 4:47:21 GMT
I had driver's Ed via mom. Got my permit on my 17th birthday. You could get your DL 10 days later, but my 10th was a weekend, so I had to wait 12 days.
I had to fight with the school for my DS to have his permit which they were holding. They finally gave it to us at 6 months. I took him to an empty parking lot. We went with rules. If either of us got upset, we would stop. Have a snack, drink, relax and try again.
I taught him to drive with a manual transmission. After the parking lot we went a section of town with small blocks and stop signs on every corner. Once we did that we were on the road. I had a chauffeur for the full six months. He drove all over, around town, the city, down the Garden State Parkway to the shore, any where at all.( It should have been a year, but... They wouldn't give us his permit.)
The only glitch was at that time with the early permit there was no night driving allow and of course, DS wanted to go driving. I insisted going for his first night adventure.
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Post by compeateropeator on Apr 14, 2024 11:56:42 GMT
I ended up inheriting my great grandmothers classic skylark Not to hijack the thread, but my dad had a 1962 Skylark. He loved that car! He bought it new and had it until the 80's, when California started phasing out leaded gas. There was a buyback program, don't remember if it was city or state run, so he sold it. I still remember what the interior of the car was like, and the push button AM radio. Cool car! But, he didn't trust the car enough to let me drive it around L.A. by myself. We had a skylark that my parents almost had to return under the lemon law. They had more problems with that car in the beginning. Once they finally fixed it or eventually replaced the entire engine (can’t remember which ended up happening) it was fine. My best friend’s family had a skyhawk that was kind of beat up that the kids used…we lovingly referred to that as the sky pigeon. 😄
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Post by lisae on Apr 14, 2024 12:01:34 GMT
the downside to having it be a graded class is that when I was in high school, a girl I know lost out on being valedictorian because the teacher gave her a B in Driver's Ed! One of my stepdaughters had this same situation because of a PE class. I had driver's ed my freshman year which was still at the junior high. My bff and I ended up paired for the road practice and it occurred mostly over summer. The instructor was provided by the school and worked year round. I remember how we laughed hysterically at ourselves after our first outing. She was better than me but not by much. We had a lot to learn.
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Post by Karene on Apr 14, 2024 13:38:53 GMT
When I was old enough to drive in the 1977, you could get your driver's learner's permit called in Ontario on your 16th birthday and then go for your full driver's test the next day. You could then drive by yourself with no restrictions. Of course, you wouldn't have had any legitimate practice, but it was possible to do this.
My dad taught me how to drive. I never had formal lessons. He also taught me some of his bad habits like a rolling stop, so I didn't pass my first test.
When my kids got their learning permits in 2003 and 2008, they were 16 and there were graduating licences (G1, G2, G). They both took private lessons because this gave you a good discount on car insurance. They both had about 25 hours of in class lessons and about 10 or so hours solo driving lessons. They then had to wait 8 months after getting the first permit (G1) before going for their 2nd permit (G2). This allowed them time to practice with a parent or other qualified driver. After getting the second stage permit, they could drive by themselves. They also had to have 0 alcohol level. After another 8 months, they could get their full licence (G). You have 5 years to complete each stage, but can do it as early as 8-12 months. If you wait until after 5 years, before getting to the next stage, you need to start over.
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Post by peano on Apr 14, 2024 13:45:40 GMT
I took Driver's Ed the summer before I turned 16. I already had my learner's permit because the age was 14 in Arkansas in the late 70s. I think it was taught by a state trooper. A trailer with simulators was parked outside the other HS in town and we watched a grisly film that depicted the aftermath of a fatal crash. I remember flies buzzing around bloody bodies. We then went out into traffic with a state trooper instructor with a brake on his side. I remember a girl driving who braked sharply for a bird in the road and the state trooper read her the riot act.
The day I turned 16, I drove my mother's hand me down Chrysler New Yorker boat of a car to school and I was off. This was one of two days when I had the thought, "OMG, I can't believe they're trusting me to do this." The other was taking DS home from the hospital.
I was the first of my friends to turn 16 so I drove people around a lot. My father's favorite story about me is getting calls two weekends in a row about needing rescuing because I and a car full of girls were stuck in the mud somewhere out in the boonies. Since this was before cell phones, I have no idea how I contacted him.
I started taking DS out to an empty parking lot when he was 14 to practice driving (even though not legal in CT). Braking, accelerating, turning, parking. I wanted him to gain some comfort and mastery behind the wheel before he was officially old enough. He took Driver's Ed that we paid for when he was 16 because we wanted the insurance benefits. I started having him drive me around town. He was actually a pretty good, cautious driver. I only remember once grabbing the wheel when we went around a bend and he wasn't steering hard enough.
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Post by compeateropeator on Apr 14, 2024 14:25:14 GMT
Those who took it in school, did your practice car have the brake control on the passengers side where the instructor sat? I can remember that ours had this. The cars were donated (or at least subsidized ) by local dealerships. I think the one for my year was a ford fiesta.
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Post by KelleeM on Apr 14, 2024 16:16:34 GMT
the downside to having it be a graded class is that when I was in high school, a girl I know lost out on being valedictorian because the teacher gave her a B in Driver's Ed! I’m still angry that I missed graduating with honors, and sitting between my two best friends (last names starting with M, N, and O) at graduation, because I elected to take typing my senior year. I could have had a study hall!
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Post by librarylady on Apr 14, 2024 16:24:03 GMT
I took it as an elective in HS. The car did have the brakes for the instructor as well as the driver.
We all learned on a standard shift so that we would be able to drive either type of transmission.
At that time Texas would allow 14 year olds to get a DL. I was not able to fit Drivers ed in my schedule until I was 16. I was 2 years older than the other students in my class.
We paid for our son to take lessons at a driving school. We also paid for granddaughter's driving lessons. I don't know any public school that offers Drivers Ed in 2024.
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Post by compeateropeator on Apr 14, 2024 17:06:29 GMT
the downside to having it be a graded class is that when I was in high school, a girl I know lost out on being valedictorian because the teacher gave her a B in Driver's Ed! I’m still angry that I missed graduating with honors, and sitting between my two best friends (last names starting with M, N, and O) at graduation, because I elected to take typing my senior year. I could have had a study hall! I understand completely. My mother was insistent on me taking typing and I couldn’t fit it into my schedule without getting rid of art, which was my favorite elective. I ended up compromising and taking it as a night course at our vocational school. If I had taken it as a graded class it would have drop my average for sure. Although I might have decided to put a little more work into it also.😄. I hated that class and still can’t type worth crap and use 2 fingers. My brother, on the other hand, is a great typer and I am jealous sometimes.
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Post by snugglebutter on Apr 14, 2024 17:07:58 GMT
We had the class in school, with a van that had a passenger side brake. The teacher for drivers ed was kind of a jerk, which definitely didn't help my anxiety about driving.
Now where we live, most kids take an online class and then have parent instructed driving. From my observation, it seems like kids either get their license on their 16th birthday or they wait at least a year. Also TX DPS is a complete shit show, which can contribute to scheduling difficulties for tests.
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Post by peabay on Apr 14, 2024 17:35:14 GMT
the downside to having it be a graded class is that when I was in high school, a girl I know lost out on being valedictorian because the teacher gave her a B in Driver's Ed! I’m still angry that I missed graduating with honors, and sitting between my two best friends (last names starting with M, N, and O) at graduation, because I elected to take typing my senior year. I could have had a study hall! Oh, that's just ridiculous!!!
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Post by iowgirl on Apr 14, 2024 18:34:16 GMT
I taught him to drive with a manual transmission. After the parking lot we went a section of town with small blocks and stop signs on every corner. Once we did that we were on the road. My kids were pretty familiar with standard shift, since they all drove the smaller tractors (and big ones!) on the farm. It is not much different than driving a car, other than you shift way more driving a car. They didn't drive the big trucks until they were a little older (some of those older trucks you had to know how to double clutch and split shift!) When it came time for my son to drive my standard shift car, I took him out for a spin to make sure he could shift it, since it had a really light clutch. Oh my lord! It is a core memory for us. He pulled out onto the road smooth as butter. I was so disappointed. But we got down the road a piece and had to stop at an intersection. He killed it. Killed it. Killed it. By that time I had the giggles. He had the giggles. Traffic was waiting for us. I said "you need to give it more gas buddy"... man ... we peeled out of that stop sign! LOL I am pretty sure he had the tires smoking. It was a little sporty car. Oh gosh - we laughed so hard we had tears. He had it mastered after that. Those who took it in school, did your practice car have the brake control on the passengers side where the instructor sat? I can remember that ours had this. Yes! I remember that extra brake. Our DE teacher was so much fun. We got to drive up north to do some interstate driving, and got to grab lunch at a Pizza Hut! For country kids, this was the epitome of COOL!
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Post by huskermom98 on Apr 14, 2024 18:42:33 GMT
I could have taken it as a class in high school in the early 90s, but I found out I wouldn't have had it until the quarter after I turned 16. I didn't want to wait to get my license so I took it during the summer (I assume it was still through the district because the class was at one of the high schools in the district--one that had a driving course painted in the parking lot!)
We chose a private company for our boys' drivers ed. There's a company that does drivers ed that is associated with almost every school in the metro area, but friends told us about a different company that is run by current & former cops. This company also has a driving simulator that none of the other companies in town has. It's pricy and we had to sign DS16 up 6 months in advance of his session because classes sell out fast, but both DS18 had a good experience (even though it was interrupted by Covid) and DS16 learns better from other people. This company has classes in person whereas the school-associated one only does online classes.
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Post by melodyesch on Apr 14, 2024 22:53:23 GMT
I had driver’s ed back in the day (1986) at the high school for a semester. We had classroom and road instruction. It was taught by the basketball coach. The road instruction was a regular car with the teacher and 2 students. But I had gotten my permit the day I turned 15 over the summer and had driven everyday with my Mom. So by the time driver’s ed rolled around, I was already a really good driver. I got my license the day after I turned 16. But I don’t think Driver’s Ed was required to get a license. I think my parents just got a break on insurance.
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Post by gorgeouskid on Apr 14, 2024 23:00:41 GMT
We had a semester long class as sophomores that was called California Requirements. It was driver's ed, first aid, and some financial stuff like balancing a checkbook. It included after school in car lessons. The teacher that did my in car training was the same teacher who taught my mother and aunt how to drive.
DS did not have driver's ed in high school. He did online classes to get his permit, and then we paid for him to have driving lessons because I didn't have the stomach for it, and DH doesn't have the temperament.
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