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Post by pierkiss on Feb 2, 2015 17:14:54 GMT
I'm so sorry.
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Post by pelirroja on Feb 2, 2015 17:17:57 GMT
It's easy to forget how dangerous a pregnancy can be without us realizing it. I am so sorry for those who are left behind: what should have been a joyous blessing has become something completely different in a split second. Life can be so fragile.
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Post by gillyp on Feb 2, 2015 17:26:12 GMT
It's easy to forget how dangerous a pregnancy can be without us realizing it. I am so sorry for those who are left behind: what should have been a joyous blessing has become something completely different in a split second. Life can be so fragile. Totally this.
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Post by lovinlife on Feb 2, 2015 17:34:09 GMT
I have 3 beautiful girls and I've lost 3 babies. Most recent was this past Nov. I had a miscarriage and a massive hemorrhage and almost bled to death. It's been a rough recovery. I was advised to not get pregnant again. As much as we'd love to have another baby I'm ok knowing it won't happen since I have my dd's and husband that need me.
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Post by lovinlife on Feb 2, 2015 17:35:58 GMT
Not sure how to edit...but I'm very grateful I'm still here and I'm so sorry for those that have lost someone.
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Post by melissa on Feb 2, 2015 17:48:54 GMT
Uterine rupture without previous uterine surgery is exceedingly rare. However, it does happen.
Abruption is a term that many lay people are unfamiliar with. Someone who is not familiar with the term may hear "rupture" when they hear abruption because of the similarity of the terms. Not saying that is what happened here, but we all know what happens with the game of telephone. Abruption is more common and can result in maternal and/or fetal death in certain circumstances.
Amniotic fluid embolism is also devastating. Very unusual to survive for the mother. Impossible to predict. True diagnosis is only made after death.
I talked about not remembering history on a vaccination thread. It's the same for childbirth. Most childbirth will be uneventful without any medical intervention. We are here for that small percentage that really needs intervention and for those with health issues. The problem is that when things go south, it can happen extremely quickly. That's what I am really trained for.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Feb 2, 2015 17:51:12 GMT
I know two people that have had their placenta detach and they both had major complications for themselves and the baby, but don't know anyone who had their uterus rupture. I've heard of it happening after multiple pregnancies, though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 18:20:37 GMT
So very sorry to hear this. I also think its foolish to not give birth in a hospital....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 18:23:50 GMT
I'm not really sure why this has become a place for some of you to call people like me a FOOL, when this had nothing to do with home or hospital birthing...
Sorry, but those kinds of comments are rude.
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Post by apmom on Feb 2, 2015 18:37:37 GMT
Have to agree with Ashley, this has nothing to do with home births. I've had a home birth, was due another but he was a large breech so went with advice of Ob and had a c-section only to have a rupture during the op. Luckily the haemorrhage was stopped and I then went on to have a very safe VBAC 4 years later. On 5 of my births I've only had midwives in attendance but an Ob on c-section. It is sad that mothers all over the world die everyday from complications of labour and birth.
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Post by anonrefugee on Feb 2, 2015 18:50:26 GMT
Agreed ashley, no one should judge. Was OP even a home birth? Read @bluetulips sad comment to realize it can happen in best scenario, at hospital, medical family. .
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Post by scrappinmama on Feb 2, 2015 18:52:55 GMT
What a tragedy for the family. I can't even imagine how they feel.
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Post by azredhead on Feb 2, 2015 19:09:35 GMT
That's so so sad! My SIL had something rupture but I can't remember what at the moment. It was serious but baby and momma recovered. I can't remember the issue just that it was scary for a few days. I haven't had kids so I'm not so familiar with that. My sister's baby that was just born this June was born with the cord around her neck. They are both ok but spent a few extra days in the hospital.
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Post by Fidget on Feb 2, 2015 19:11:02 GMT
Uterine rupture without previous uterine surgery is exceedingly rare. However, it does happen. Abruption is a term that many lay people are unfamiliar with. Someone who is not familiar with the term may hear "rupture" when they hear abruption because of the similarity of the terms. Not saying that is what happened here, but we all know what happens with the game of telephone. Abruption is more common and can result in maternal and/or fetal death in certain circumstances. Amniotic fluid embolism is also devastating. Very unusual to survive for the mother. Impossible to predict. True diagnosis is only made after death. I talked about not remembering history on a vaccination thread. It's the same for childbirth. Most childbirth will be uneventful without any medical intervention. We are here for that small percentage that really needs intervention and for those with health issues. The problem is that when things go south, it can happen extremely quickly. That's what I am really trained for. Melissa - I am now second guessing myself on what I heard and the assumption I made, what is an abruption as opposed to a rupture? Actually what I was told was that her uterus "exploded" which I interpreted as ruptured. Can you explain the difference please, I'm sure I could google, but this seems easier, thanks. i will definitely ask at a later time, not now, it's too new and fresh. The young woman's viewing is not until tomorrow.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Feb 2, 2015 19:15:23 GMT
I don't think I would call everyone that has had home births foolish, that's painting with a pretty broad brush. I would say it's taking a calculated risk. For me, it was a risk I wasn't willing to take due to being older when I delivered and other issues I was having. In the end I was glad I was in a hospital room just steps away from a surgical suite because I needed to have an unplanned c-section (not an emergency situation, thank God, but still it wasn't anything that was on my radar AT ALL). My kid had a huge head, and there was no way she was coming out without surgery. Turned out both of my sisters had similar issues that I was completely unaware of until after I delivered.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Feb 2, 2015 20:03:18 GMT
That's so terribly sad.
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Post by M in Carolina on Feb 2, 2015 20:36:50 GMT
I just want to clarify that I didn't say that all or even most non hospital births were dangerous. I was just saying that a lot of women don't do a lot of research and are hopping on the home birth bandwagon by saying "women have given birth for millenia without hospitals"
My father was delivered at home because there was no hospital nearby. My granny and others of her generation (born 1911) said they really wished that they could have had the safety of a hospital.
My own story is that I did enough research to decide that trying to have a baby was just too risky. Even staying in the hospital for the full 10 months was still incredibly risky.
I admire women like Ashley because I know she did the research. I'm not all saying that people just stop home birthing. I'm just saying that with anything medical--listen to your doctors. They're here to help, not feed some huge birthing complex or make money.
Melissa is awesome and I'm sure she could have found a much less stressful and more lucrative career.
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Post by BuckeyeSandy on Feb 2, 2015 20:57:48 GMT
I'm sorry. I lost my best friend this way 11 years ago. she was only 23, having her first child. during labor her uterus ruptured and she was gone within seconds. they were able to save her daughter, thank god. her dad was a radiologist at that hospital. he said it's so easy to forget that not that long ago in history, childbirth was one of the most dangerous things you could go thru. and still in this age, nothing is guaranteed. still miss her. Even with all our technology, it is still dangerous, we just try to ignore it.
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Post by SabrinaM on Feb 2, 2015 21:08:59 GMT
My mom was an L&D nurse for years. I was a mess during my pregnancies worried sick about complications.
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Post by annabella on Feb 2, 2015 21:12:31 GMT
I seem to remember a Pea just a few years back who died in her last trimester or while giving birth. Both mother and son died. I believe it was an aneurysm. It was so sad and shocking when her husband posted the news. Do you know who I am talking about? The name Becki comes to mind. ETA: I just remembered the name was Mysti. Yes I remember her but was she in labor? I thought she was only 5 months along, I could be totally wrong though.
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Post by littlemama on Feb 2, 2015 22:03:46 GMT
Not this specifically, but a couple years ago locally there was a young first grade teacher, pregnant with her first child who passed away of an aneurysm during parent teacher conferences a month before her due date. They tried, but were also unable to save the baby. Her husband was and still is a teacher at the same school. Pregnancy and childbirth are not always routine, sadly.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 22:37:08 GMT
My mother's sister died in childbirth from an embolism. This was back in the 1940's (the child that lived is like a sister to me). Every woman in the family after that went into each pregnancy with a bit of trepidation. Fortunately history didn't repeat itself for us. My friend's 38 year old sister recently passed away because of an embolism. It was her fifth child and the baby luckily made it through.
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Post by melissa on Feb 2, 2015 22:38:51 GMT
An abruption is when the placenta separates from the uterus. A small abruption is harmless and just results in some bleeding. A more severe abruption can result in loss of life.
"Exploded" sadly does sound like a uterine rupture. It makes me wonder if she had a prior cesarean or some other prior uterine surgery like fibroid removal. I have to believe there is more to this story than just twins, first pregnancy, and was still remote from term. It makes no sense on multiple planes and is just so tragic. I can't help but look for the cause of such an incredible tragedy. It's just my nature.
ETA obviously if this is a first pregnancy, there is no prior cesarean history.
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Post by peasapie on Feb 2, 2015 23:03:40 GMT
How frightening and sad. Pregnancy and childbirth is such a blessing and such a physical risk.
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Post by brynn on Feb 2, 2015 23:40:52 GMT
Prayers for all
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Post by mallie on Feb 2, 2015 23:44:46 GMT
Many years ago, a friend of my mother's had a ruptured uterus during her first pregnancy. Both she and the baby survived, although she was told very strongly to never ever get pregnant again. I can't remember if she had a hysterectomy or her tubes tied or what the deal was. What I do remember is that a big brouhaha occurred because their local Catholic priest visited her and told her that her first duty was to reproduce and that risking her life was part of the natural burden of being a woman. The husband had to call security to get the priest out of their hospital room. They went on to adopt other children and the priest refused to baptize them. A huge scandal.
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Post by leftturnonly on Feb 2, 2015 23:57:15 GMT
I know you're shaken up by this terrible loss, and whether you knew her well or slightly, you are grieving. Pregnancy always has been and always will be dangerous for the pregnant woman. We are able to lessen those dangers better than any other time in history, but still, the danger is there. I am so sorry. I will definitely be keeping her family in my thoughts and prayers. My SIL had a weird condition where her uterus was kinda divided--she was high risk. They were concerned that she could rupture like that. I think her doctor discovered it when he did more testing after she miscarried. It's easy to forget that childbirth was the largest killer of women throughout history. I worry that a lot of women who are doing the whole no gyn/just dulah home birth route are forgetting this. I've read some home birth stories that have raised the hairs on the back of my neck. If something catastrophic did happen, the mother and baby would have mere minutes to be in the surgery theatre. 30 minutes by ambulance is just way too far away--15 minutes to get to her, get her loaded up, then 15 minutes to the hospital. There are so many queens and princesses who died in childbirth, and they had the *best* care of anyone. It's so sobering. My daughter's cord wrapped around her neck while I was in labor, but because I had opted to deliver in the hospital and allow a fetal monitor to be attached to her scalp, we were able to discover when she was in danger. I was given extra oxygen and her levels normalized several times before the need to prep for an emergency C section and she was born naturally with no complications. This is my child who was probably border-line diabetic until she went into ketoacidosis with the onset of fully insulin-dependent diabetes the day she turned 18 months old. Every day of her life since that day, I have been especially grateful that I made the choice I did and that she did not suffer oxygen deprivation disorders on top of her other challenges. There's a lot to learn from other women's experiences. If I had not met a new mother who had lost a child a year or two before because the child was strangled on his cord during delivery, I would not have allowed the monitor and my daughter would have been severely disabled at best. I consider that I owe my daughter's best chances in life to this woman's candor and it is in that same vein that I add this now, Fidget. Pregnancy is one of the most dangerous times in a woman's life, still.
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Post by cakediva on Feb 3, 2015 0:12:21 GMT
I'm not really sure why this has become a place for some of you to call people like me a FOOL, when this had nothing to do with home or hospital birthing... Sorry, but those kinds of comments are rude. I'm with Ashley. There have been a few comments made here by various people in the last couple months regarding home birth and how dangerous or foolish it is. My midwives were highly capable women, and never once did I feel unsure of my decision to have my son at home. It was the best experience of all 3 of my births. And at the slightest hint of danger, I'd have been in the car and on the way to the hospital (5 minutes away). That said - I'm so sorry to hear of the loss. How awful for the husband/father and the rest of the family.
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Post by leftturnonly on Feb 3, 2015 0:41:10 GMT
I'm not really sure why this has become a place for some of you to call people like me a FOOL, when this had nothing to do with home or hospital birthing... Sorry, but those kinds of comments are rude. I'm with Ashley. There have been a few comments made here by various people in the last couple months regarding home birth and how dangerous or foolish it is. My midwives were highly capable women, and never once did I feel unsure of my decision to have my son at home. It was the best experience of all 3 of my births. And at the slightest hint of danger, I'd have been in the car and on the way to the hospital (5 minutes away). That said - I'm so sorry to hear of the loss. How awful for the husband/father and the rest of the family. AH! Thanks for explaining more. I read the thread and thought I missed Ashley & others being called fools. I would have loved to have given birth in a tub of water. As it was, with one of my deliveries I actually hid in the bathroom from the rude nurse who kept throwing off my labor. I was able to get it back on track because of the calm, deliberate breathing techniques I learned from midwives. I wish there were more places that blend the two - hospital and home-like births.
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Post by DinCA on Feb 3, 2015 7:10:46 GMT
I should have been more precise when I posted earlier. My friend died of an amniotic fluid embolism. The amniotic fluid entered the bloodstream and she bled to death. This was her second pregnancy. She delivered her first child vaginally about five years prior. The baby was large and she was a week overdue. If I remember correctly, they induced labor. Evidently, this is a rare occurrence. They desperately tried to save her for about five hours with blood transfusions but it didn't work. I had a six-month-old at the time...it was so hard. I still can't believe we lost her. She was an amazing mom.
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