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Post by missysauter on Feb 10, 2015 20:31:10 GMT
DH, DS and I were out to eat the other night and it really struck me how many people were on their phones (texting, Facebook, etc.). It's sad to me to see a family sitting together and yet not communicating with each other at all. Everyone's noses are down in their phones.
We are pretty laid back about phone usage, but when we have taken the time to go out to a restaurant for a meal, I expect phones to be put away and spend the evening engaged as a family. We also don't allow phones to be out during our meals at home.
So, how do you and your family do things?
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Post by grinningcat on Feb 10, 2015 20:34:35 GMT
Generally when we go out phones aren't used but we don't have a hard and fast rule. It rings? It will be answered. We're talking about a certain subject and want to confirm a detail, we will take them out to get the answer. Want to show a picture from a recent event? Pulling the phone out for show and tell. Making a list for an activity we're planning? We'll take notes on the phone. I disagree that using a phone when with other people at table automatically equals not communicating or socializing with others. Sure that can happen but I don't think it's as much of a problem as certain media outlets want to portray.
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Post by leannec on Feb 10, 2015 20:35:13 GMT
Dh is a realtor so he works pretty much 24/7 ... he takes calls during dinner if it is important but let's it go to voicemail if it is just his partner ... dude can wait until we are done
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Post by annabella on Feb 10, 2015 20:37:43 GMT
I noticed the last two Thanksgiving that the younger guests had to check their phone during the meal, I mean really what's happening Thanksgiving evening? I went to my friend's apt on Sunday to watch the Grammys and she spent the whole time texting, missing things I'd point out on the screen. Yes I do have friends that put their phone face up on a restaurant table, it drives me crazy.
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Post by sharlag on Feb 10, 2015 20:37:58 GMT
Generally when we go out phones aren't used but we don't have a hard and fast rule. It rings? It will be answered. We're talking about a certain subject and want to confirm a detail, we will take them out to get the answer. Want to show a picture from a recent event? Pulling the phone out for show and tell. Making a list for an activity we're planning? We'll take notes on the phone. I disagree that using a phone when with other people at table automatically equals not communicating or socializing with others. Sure that can happen but I don't think it's as much of a problem as certain media outlets want to portray. This.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Feb 10, 2015 20:40:02 GMT
Generally when we go out phones aren't used but we don't have a hard and fast rule. It rings? It will be answered. We're talking about a certain subject and want to confirm a detail, we will take them out to get the answer. Want to show a picture from a recent event? Pulling the phone out for show and tell. Making a list for an activity we're planning? We'll take notes on the phone. I disagree that using a phone when with other people at table automatically equals not communicating or socializing with others. Sure that can happen but I don't think it's as much of a problem as certain media outlets want to portray. This is us too. Sometimes we even take the mini iPad and play a trivia game all together. OMG, how could we bury our noses in the electronics and not pay attention to each other Because we use our phone like grinningcat I really don't pay attention or judge others on how they use their's when they are out. Recently at Red Robin dd asked what we knew about something she was learning in school. We ended up looking up more info on the subject at the table, each of us coming up with a different fact about it. So yea, it could have looked like we were all on our phones not communicating, but we were all discussing the same thing and having a great time with it.
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Post by annabella on Feb 10, 2015 20:40:37 GMT
I find that now a days when people talk about something, and they can't remember a detail (that really doesn't matter to the storytelling), they have to google it on the spot. I don't find that necessary.
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Post by anonrefugee on Feb 10, 2015 20:41:07 GMT
We have a rule that we don't, but it gets broken if DH has an emergency. Or even if we're out after a long day of school events and athletics we will all be on screens until food arrives. We also pick up texts and phone calls from Grandparents (80-90 year olds) anywhere, anytime. Hmmm, maybe we don't really have a rule after all
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Post by disneyjunkie on Feb 10, 2015 20:42:13 GMT
We have a strict no phones at the table policy. This includes at home and out at restaurants. In fact, if one of us needs to answer a call that comes in, we leave the table to do so. My 15 yo daughter got a text during dinner last week at a restaurant (she must have felt her phone in her pocket). She was having several people over to the house later and she asked if it was ok if she checked it. I really appreciated the fact that she respects our rules enough to check first. (We said, yes, it's fine to check).
Other times though, we are bad about the phones in other places. For example, in the car, on the way anywhere, we all have our faces buried in our phones (except the driver of course). It's a terrible habit and I'm as guilty as the kids are.
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Post by anxiousmom on Feb 10, 2015 20:43:10 GMT
I have teenagers, so ringing phones is not an issue. They don't actually TALK on their phones. But the rule I have about phones and eating is unless you are eating alone, phones are put away. There is no message that can't keep for the duration of the meal. While it may seem a bit draconian to some, I feel like I am trying to teach the boys that the person in front of you is more important than the person on the end of a text. This rule is in place for eating out or eating in.
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Post by Kerri W on Feb 10, 2015 20:44:41 GMT
Well our phones don't rule our lives so if we just happen to be in a restaurant and somebody calls, then sometimes we answer and sometimes we don't. I'm comfortable with the fact that electronics are not a problem for myself, DH or our children but it's nice to know others in the restaurant are judging the 30-60 minutes of our lives they are witnessing. I'm not sure why this bothers me so much, but I feel like your OP is incredibly judgmental.
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Post by annabella on Feb 10, 2015 20:47:34 GMT
I have teenagers, so ringing phones is not an issue. They don't actually TALK on their phones. But the rule I have about phones and eating is unless you are eating alone, phones are put away. There is no message that can't keep for the duration of the meal. While it may seem a bit draconian to some, I feel like I am trying to teach the boys that the person in front of you is more important than the person on the end of a text.
This rule is in place for eating out or eating in. I like that!
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Post by grinningcat on Feb 10, 2015 20:51:49 GMT
I find that now a days when people talk about something, and they can't remember a detail (that really doesn't matter to the storytelling), they have to google it on the spot. I don't find that necessary. Depends on the story. If I'm telling a story about a documentary that I've watched about the royal family and I can't remember the succession line, I know one of us (might not be me) are going to google it because it will become a point of reference in the evening and drive a bunch of us crazy. Other things may not be important though, but it really depends on the story.
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Post by Dori~Mama~Bear on Feb 10, 2015 20:54:34 GMT
When we go out we play games on our phones. there are times I take my tablet and we sit there playing either scrabble or yahtzee while we wait for our food. It is something we started do years ago. It is a way to be connected with each other and not have to talk about nothing. After a long day at work husband doesn't want to sit and talk through dinner and I don't want to sit there and talk about nothing when he is so tired.
There is also times that the 3 of us go out and sit there playing the games.
The thing we like to do most is go to mexican dinner and sit there and eat chips and salsa and play our games.
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Post by grinningcat on Feb 10, 2015 20:56:24 GMT
I have teenagers, so ringing phones is not an issue. They don't actually TALK on their phones. But the rule I have about phones and eating is unless you are eating alone, phones are put away. There is no message that can't keep for the duration of the meal. While it may seem a bit draconian to some, I feel like I am trying to teach the boys that the person in front of you is more important than the person on the end of a text. This rule is in place for eating out or eating in. I agree with you, however I don't think answering a text or a phone call makes the person you're dining with any less important. If you're constantly doing it and ignoring the person, but answering a call or a text doesn't mean you're ignoring the person. I think that's what bugs me about this subject, it's very black and white for so many people, that it's not possible to integrate phones into a conversation or a gathering without completely letting it take over. In my experience, that has never happened. In these conversations, people seem to forget that phones are tools not control devices.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 20:56:36 GMT
DH, DS and I were out to eat the other night and it really struck me how many people were on their phones (texting, Facebook, etc.). It's sad to me to see a family sitting together and yet not communicating with each other at all. Everyone's noses are down in their phones. We are pretty laid back about phone usage, but when we have taken the time to go out to a restaurant for a meal, I expect phones to be put away and spend the evening engaged as a family. We also don't allow phones to be out during our meals at home. So, how do you and your family do things? It's so easy to judge when you don't have all the facts. Back in May, DS and I were having lunch at a local Mexican restaurant together. He was on his iPod and I was on my phone Facebook Ing. A man of about 65 came around the corner, took one look at us sitting there, made a noise that was clearly disapproval. I asked if he needed something and he just shook his head no and walked away. Clearly mother and son were just wasting time in a restaurant not communicating noses in their gadgets. Or so that's what he seemed to think. When he didn't know was that we had been there for an hour, we had finished our meal, we had had conversations but we were both exhausted because we had spent the whole previous two days preparing our house to be Put on the market. We were completely emotionally exhausted and while we sat there waiting for news, there were four showings of our house going on. This was our favorite Mexican restaurant and it would be the last time we got to eat there before moving to a whole new state. It was a place where we were both comfortable and in this emotionally unraveling time we needed the comfort of a safe familiar place. This experience reminded me to mind my own business. You rarely ever know what's really going on with other people.
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Post by missysauter on Feb 10, 2015 20:57:10 GMT
Well our phones don't rule our lives so if we just happen to be in a restaurant and somebody calls, then sometimes we answer and sometimes we don't. I'm comfortable with the fact that electronics are not a problem for myself, DH or our children but it's nice to know others in the restaurant are judging the 30-60 minutes of our lives they are witnessing. I'm not sure why this bothers me so much, but I feel like your OP is incredibly judgmental. I really am sorry if you took my OP to be judgmental. That wasn't my intention. We have simply noticed several times where there doesn't seem to be much conversation between the people sitting together at a table. I remember when going out for a meal was a time to catch up with everyone. ETA: To each their own. You have to do what works best for your family.
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Post by gorgeouskid on Feb 10, 2015 20:57:41 GMT
Phones are on mute at restaurants. I'll confiscate them if they're being used.
ETA- that being said, I don't mind if someone snaps a picture and posts on Instagram before our meals and drinks are served.
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Post by bc2ca on Feb 10, 2015 21:02:55 GMT
I have teenagers, so ringing phones is not an issue. They don't actually TALK on their phones. But the rule I have about phones and eating is unless you are eating alone, phones are put away. There is no message that can't keep for the duration of the meal. While it may seem a bit draconian to some, I feel like I am trying to teach the boys that the person in front of you is more important than the person on the end of a text. This rule is in place for eating out or eating in. Phones aren't allowed at the table at home or while out. The worst offender in our house is DH and it drives the kids nuts when he drops a conversation with them to check an email or text. Because they hate his behavior, my teens are pretty good about keeping their phones off the table. If we are out to dinner and someone suggests a movie, we'll use the phone to see what's playing or if we are talking about plans for the next week, the calendar might be checked but nobody in my family is dealing with anything so urgent that texts and emails need to be read or answered immediately.
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Post by annabella on Feb 10, 2015 21:03:08 GMT
But you are, you're not making eye contact and having a separate conversation with someone not there so the person in front of you has to wait until you are done.
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Feb 10, 2015 21:05:11 GMT
Hold on to your seats - we don't even have smart phones! My daughter did get an iPod for Christmas and sometimes she will want to take a picture or show us a picture, but she's not on it otherwise (if she even has it with her). I will confess though, there have been times my daughter and I go out for a meal and we both read our books. I see people using phones to sometimes check something or look up a fact. But I do frequently see a table where the people don't interact at all because they are all individually on their phones.
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Post by melodyesch on Feb 10, 2015 21:05:59 GMT
It's just me and DH. Generally, no. But if one of us gets a text, we'll look at it. If it's my boss, I might need to answer. But sometimes we use one or the other phones to take down notes for the grocery list or to check the weather if we're making plans for the weekend. But no, we don't sit and talk/text other people instead of talking to each other.
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Post by Basket1lady on Feb 10, 2015 21:08:50 GMT
Generally when we go out phones aren't used but we don't have a hard and fast rule. It rings? It will be answered. We're talking about a certain subject and want to confirm a detail, we will take them out to get the answer. Want to show a picture from a recent event? Pulling the phone out for show and tell. Making a list for an activity we're planning? We'll take notes on the phone. I disagree that using a phone when with other people at table automatically equals not communicating or socializing with others. Sure that can happen but I don't think it's as much of a problem as certain media outlets want to portray. This is us, too. We usually don't have a lot of time to sit and talk, so the table is where we catch up with our day. We took DS out Sunday night for his birthday. I was showing pictures from his party, he was showing pictures of what he had built on the robot for robotics that weekend, DD was bugging me with Tolkein quotes, DH was answering work texts (military commander dealing with the death of a familiar member of one of his people.). I'm sure we looked bad, but we were all engaged with each other and happyjump to be together.
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Post by disneyjunkie on Feb 10, 2015 21:10:04 GMT
But you are, you're not making eye contact and having a separate conversation with someone not there so the person in front of you has to wait until you are done. I agree with this. Perhaps there are good reasons for it, I get that. But for us, no phones at the table. It can wait.
I have a daughter that is almost at dating age. I certainly hope that her date wouldn't stop talking to her to answer a call or text that came in while they were at dinner. I feel like we set that expectation at home.
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Post by missysauter on Feb 10, 2015 21:11:10 GMT
Generally when we go out phones aren't used but we don't have a hard and fast rule. It rings? It will be answered. We're talking about a certain subject and want to confirm a detail, we will take them out to get the answer. Want to show a picture from a recent event? Pulling the phone out for show and tell. Making a list for an activity we're planning? We'll take notes on the phone. I disagree that using a phone when with other people at table automatically equals not communicating or socializing with others. Sure that can happen but I don't think it's as much of a problem as certain media outlets want to portray. This is us, too. We usually don't have a lot of time to sit and talk, so the table is where we catch up with our day. We took DS out Sunday night for his birthday. I was showing pictures from his party, he was showing pictures of what he had built on the robot for robotics that weekend, DD was bugging me with Tolkein quotes, DH was answering work texts (military commander dealing with the death of a familiar member of one of his people.). I'm sure we looked bad, but we were all engaged with each other and happyjump to be together. And I totally get this. You are interacting with one another. What I was talking about is people sitting at the same table and not communicating with each other.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 21:11:57 GMT
Nope, no phones during dinner for any reason. At home or out! If it rings it goes to voicemail.
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Post by Basket1lady on Feb 10, 2015 21:18:23 GMT
This is us, too. We usually don't have a lot of time to sit and talk, so the table is where we catch up with our day. We took DS out Sunday night for his birthday. I was showing pictures from his party, he was showing pictures of what he had built on the robot for robotics that weekend, DD was bugging me with Tolkein quotes, DH was answering work texts (military commander dealing with the death of a familiar member of one of his people.). I'm sure we looked bad, but we were all engaged with each other and happyjump to be together. And I totally get this. You are interacting with one another. What I was talking about is people sitting at the same table and not communicating with each other. But sometimes you just don't know what another is doing. Sure, there are plenty of people who will drop everything when they get a text or to answer a phone call. But you just don't know. I pi started out with a "no phones at the table" rule, but quickly realized that there were a lot of grey areas. Now, if I were having lunch with a friend, I would probably say something if he/she were constantly on the phone. If it's something urgent, ok. But if not, please give me that hour of your time.
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Post by epeanymous on Feb 10, 2015 21:21:11 GMT
If dh and I are out without the kids and the phone vibrates, yes, we get it out to make sure it isn't whoever is looking out for the kids.
Otherwise, we don't use electronic devices at meals.
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Post by anonrefugee on Feb 10, 2015 21:24:43 GMT
This is us, too. We usually don't have a lot of time to sit and talk, so the table is where we catch up with our day. We took DS out Sunday night for his birthday. I was showing pictures from his party, he was showing pictures of what he had built on the robot for robotics that weekend, DD was bugging me with Tolkein quotes, DH was answering work texts (military commander dealing with the death of a familiar member of one of his people.). I'm sure we looked bad, but we were all engaged with each other and happyjump to be together. And I totally get this. You are interacting with one another. What I was talking about is people sitting at the same table and not communicating with each other. It's easy to blame phones, but there have been dysfunctional families for a long time. Who knows if they'd be talking anyway. Or maybe they're planining a party? If you're watching them for an extended period you're not talking to your family either. Just pat yourself on the back and let it go. I think we can all agree it's better to have conversation, but why judge?
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Post by padresfan619 on Feb 10, 2015 21:27:39 GMT
I don't like phones, newspapers, books, etc at the table when we are eating at home. It doesn't bother me if someone checks their phone at the table while we are out to eat. A lot of my friends have kids and leave them with a babysitter when we go out, I'm not going to chide them for checking their phone or taking a call from their child care provider.
I have only dealt with one person blatantly ignoring me and others in the group at the table while we are out in favor of her phone. She was glued to it 99% of the time. We don't include her in our outings any more since she wasn't truly present in them anyway.
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