raindancer
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Post by raindancer on Feb 21, 2015 1:02:06 GMT
On my way home tonight I had the unfortunate experience of coming up on a recent accident on the freeway. 3 people were ejected along with all of their travel belongings (suitcases, clothing) all strewn about the road, the bodies covered in tarps.
The people on my community fb group that encountered the accident about 20 minutes ahead of me were not so "lucky" in that they had not covered the bodies yet.
It made me ill, and to know that they may have survived if they had been restrained is awful. Please, buckle up!
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Post by KikiPea on Feb 21, 2015 1:04:22 GMT
I hate hearing that. I do not understand the stubborn people who refuse to wear seat belts. It just makes no sense. I'm sorry you had to see that. That's hard to unsee. Prayers for their friends and families.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 1:08:38 GMT
How awful! I've rarely heard of someone surviving being ejected from a vehicle. It always ended in horrible injuries and death.
Our rule is that the vehicle doesn't move until everyone's buckled in - front, middle and back (we have a minivan). That goes for kids and adults.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 1:11:18 GMT
I think there are very few people that don't believe seat belts matter; most who don't buckle up don't care.
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Dani-Mani
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Post by Dani-Mani on Feb 21, 2015 1:20:05 GMT
I think there are very few people that don't believe seat belts matter; most who don't buckle up don't care. I agree.
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Post by NoWomanNoCry on Feb 21, 2015 1:25:22 GMT
I think there are very few people that don't believe seat belts matter; most who don't buckle up don't care. When my DH pulls people over with kids in the car he is always telling me the adults are the ones usually in seatbelts (sometimes not) but the parents never have the kids in belts or car/booster seats. It's crazy.
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Post by moveablefeast on Feb 21, 2015 1:31:37 GMT
I'm so sorry that it happened at all, and also that you have the image in your mind. That's just an awful situation.
Thanks for the sobering reminder. Be good to yourself tonight.
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Post by raindancer on Feb 21, 2015 1:37:48 GMT
I think there are very few people that don't believe seat belts matter; most who don't buckle up don't care. Yeah, I guess it's possible. I don't know. I think that lack of following proven safety protocol is less about caring (who doesn't care about people they love?) but maybe more about the "it won't happen to me". I don't know. I know that compliance is highly improved over before it was mandated. But still, this happens far too often. It just breaks my heart. So many lives lost and so many hurting friends and family tonight. What a tragedy.
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Post by suzastampin on Feb 21, 2015 1:39:59 GMT
I heard that Bob Simon was not wearing his seat belt and was thrown into the front seat. They said that if he had been belted in, he probably would not have died.
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Post by jinxmom2003 on Feb 21, 2015 1:46:45 GMT
On my way home tonight I had the unfortunate experience of coming up on a recent accident on the freeway. 3 people were ejected along with all of their travel belongings (suitcases, clothing) all strewn about the road, the bodies covered in tarps. The people on my community fb group that encountered the accident about 20 minutes ahead of me were not so "lucky" in that they had not covered the bodies yet. It made me ill, and to know that they may have survived if they had been restrained is awful. Please, buckle up! Accident on I 10 South of Tucson? Just read it on KVOA. I'm in Sierra Vista.
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Post by Nicole in TX on Feb 21, 2015 1:59:41 GMT
I heard that Bob Simon was not wearing his seat belt and was thrown into the front seat. They said that if he had been belted in, he probably would not have died. I was thinking of this as well. So sad.
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Post by raindancer on Feb 21, 2015 2:01:52 GMT
On my way home tonight I had the unfortunate experience of coming up on a recent accident on the freeway. 3 people were ejected along with all of their travel belongings (suitcases, clothing) all strewn about the road, the bodies covered in tarps. The people on my community fb group that encountered the accident about 20 minutes ahead of me were not so "lucky" in that they had not covered the bodies yet. It made me ill, and to know that they may have survived if they had been restrained is awful. Please, buckle up! Accident on I 10 South of Tucson? Just read it on KVOA. I'm in Sierra Vista. Yeah. It took me 23 min. to go from just east of Rita to Houghton. It was so awful. They had a team on scene (at 5) and they just panned across, and the people were till in the road. It was so tasteless, IMO.
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Post by maryland on Feb 21, 2015 3:17:17 GMT
That's so sad! I don't understand why people don't wear seatbelts either.
When I was a kid, we never wore seatbelts. I have to credit my high school boyfriend for making me wear a seatbelt. I didn't wear them regularly, but I wanted to impress him, so I started wearing them all the time once we started dating. It was the rule in his car, but I started wearing them even when I was in my own car. My brother did too, he was also wanting to impress my boyfriend.
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Post by luvnlifelady on Feb 21, 2015 4:01:05 GMT
I don't understand not wearing one, double buckling kids or people that put the top part under their arm. There was a winner of Survivor (Forgot her name) that lost her son last year because he wasn't wearing a seatbelt. So sad and pointless.
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Post by camcas on Feb 21, 2015 4:45:18 GMT
In Australia it is law But there are still idiots who don't
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Post by deafpea on Feb 21, 2015 5:06:12 GMT
I remember my family used to have a car--I forget which one it was--that had an automated shoulder belt. When you opened the door, it would automatically move forward so you could get out. When you closed the door and started the ignition, it would move back. So all you had to do was fasten the lap belt. If I remember correctly, this was only for the front seats. Back seats still had the shoulder/lap combo that you had to do yourself.
Are any vehicles made with these automated seatbelts anymore? If not, why not? Seems like if you didn't have a choice, more people would be restrained. I heard seat belts are most effective with both shoulder and lap belts (and I can see why), but surely even the shoulder belt only would still be better than being completely unrestrained? (I have a Dodge Grand Caravan Sport and a Toyota Corolla and both have the manual seatbelts).
OP, so sorry you had to witness the aftermath. So sad for all involved.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 5:49:07 GMT
You know how you learned to tie your shoes at whatever age (say 4 or 5) and you just know how to tie shoes? You look at a pair of tie up shoes and you don't think about tying them up? That's me with a seatbelt. I never think about it. It is so automatic it is the same as tie up shoes. I look at a lace the same as I look at a seatbelt. It goes on automatically. I have never even thought about it, it is that automatic. I don't know how people in this generation don't put on seatbelts the same way. The education has been proven time and again that more people survive automobile accidents wearing seatbelts than not and still people refuse to wear them for whatever reason. You can get pillows if they dig into your stomach or shoulder or whatever. I know I am being judgmental but it should just be automatic AND common sense. If someone drives an older car, let's say a 60's Mustang and the seatbelts are just the lap belts I don't know how effective they are or aren't so I can't comment and I won't say anything as I don't know either way. On a car built after 1990 which would make it 25 years old now seatbelts haven't changed that much and they are easy to put on and are not that uncomfortable. Off my soapbox. I am sorry you had to see that aftermath. That kind of image stays with you for a long time. You owe yourself something nice to eat or drink tonight. Glass of wine? Hot chocolate? Strawberry smoothie? San Peligrino? Whatever you like treat yourself.
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Post by njinkerbelle on Feb 21, 2015 6:44:59 GMT
My DH rarely buckles in and it's so annoying no matter how much I tell him.
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Post by anniefb on Feb 21, 2015 6:47:45 GMT
How sad and hard for you to see too. Wearing seat belts is compulsory in New Zealand but some people still don't. I just don't understand it.
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Post by leftturnonly on Feb 21, 2015 6:56:38 GMT
I think there are very few people that don't believe seat belts matter; most who don't buckle up don't care. When my DH pulls people over with kids in the car he is always telling me the adults are the ones usually in seatbelts (sometimes not) but the parents never have the kids in belts or car/booster seats. It's crazy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 7:15:29 GMT
I spoke to a mom in our condo complex in Japan and she said "well her son and daughter just hate car seats so they got rid of them. Their daughter liked sleeping in her basinette when her husband drove but her son would never sit in his car seat-ever. He just wouldn't. Their daughter grew to like sitting in a seat though as long as she could watch tv in the car (tv was always mounted on the dash in the front) so she would often sit on her mom's knee." This is a synopsis of a conversation I had with her. Her husband is an insurance adjuster btw. He is highly disabled and beats his wife. He can't walk fast enough as he has a clubbed foot so she has to walk over to him so he can hit her. Yeah, it's messed up. She told me he hit her often and I did see a black eye or a bruise on her arm on a regular basis...they lived on the first floor so she didn't fall down many stairs or walk into that many doors.
ExDH and I put DS in every approved carseat from the day we left the hospital until he outweighed the last booster seat. He just knew it was the law and it was something that was always done every single time. It took 2 seconds to do and we were on our way. I didn't treat it like a holier than thou thing. We just did it like tying a shoe.
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Post by anniebygaslight on Feb 21, 2015 7:43:00 GMT
It is illegal in the UK not to wear a seat belt.
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Post by eversograceful1 on Feb 21, 2015 13:28:00 GMT
I'm pretty sure every state in the US also has a seatbelt law but people still do it. My DH, for example. I think he's an idiot when he doesn't wear his seatbelt. He just thinks nothing will ever happen to him while I remind him that he has a child to set an example for. Ah well, I came to term with the fact that my caring isn't going to change anything so I just hope that the constant beeping in the van makes him crazy and he gives in to putting the best on.
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Post by mallie on Feb 21, 2015 13:29:06 GMT
My father didn't. He was the sort of person who had crossed the line from stubborn to stupid. Which is pretty much how I think of anyone who refuses to wear a belt.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 13:43:23 GMT
My DH never wore one until we had kids. Then we had to have the discussion that if he was driving them and had an accident, he had to be alive to get them out of their carseats to safety. I refused to let him drive them if he wasn't belted in. He tried to go back to no seatbelt when he felt they were old enough to get out themselves in an accident, but I trained my daughter to say, "Please put your seatbelt on Daddy" and he would do anything for her, so it worked. It finally became a habit for him.
We never wore seatbelts growing up until I was a teenager. My dad had so many tickets that he had to take a mandatory class. They showed the class a video of an accident scene where a semi truck had stopped suddenly for a dog. The car behind him just barely managed to stop in time. The toddler in the front seat of that car was not so lucky. They went through the windshield and hit the back of the semi so hard that the outline of the child's body was indented in the door. My dad wore his seatbelt ever since and made sure we all did too.
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Post by Patter on Feb 21, 2015 13:54:50 GMT
How awful! I've rarely heard of someone surviving being ejected from a vehicle. It always ended in horrible injuries and death. Our rule is that the vehicle doesn't move until everyone's buckled in - front, middle and back (we have a minivan). That goes for kids and adults. That is just horrific. I am sorry you saw that. And certainly so sad for those families that lost family members! And Nicksmom, that's our rule too, and it's also how I grew up. My parents never left a parking spot until we were all buckled. And the other day, a fellow college student asked if he could ride with my daughter to class. They are both in Army ROTC and it is at another college so they have to commute. Anyway, this guy said he would not wear his seatbelt. My daughter told him he had a choice to drive himself or to ride with her and wear his seatbelt. I was SO proud of her. Needless to say the kid buckled his seatbelt!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 13:57:59 GMT
I feel sorry for the police who have to come investigate these accidents. Seeing dead people on the highway as a daily part of your job to me would burn a hole deep in your heart. Then there are the police who have to go and inform the sleeping family at 3 or 4 am that their loved one has been killed on the high way and could they please come and identify the body. Just the words "the body". Those police who do that are scarred for life, too. I can't imagine the faces they see when they answer the door. The father's son John as just flown through the windshield because he was rear ended at a high speed and died instantly.
If you can tie a shoe you can put on a seatbelt.
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Post by tduby1 on Feb 21, 2015 14:09:02 GMT
How awful! I've rarely heard of someone surviving being ejected from a vehicle. It always ended in horrible injuries and death. Those who do survive have their lives irreversibly changed. My brother survived an accident where he was ejected from the car. It was horrific. He suffered brain damage and still 7 years later his life consists of weekly dr. Apps, therapist visits, family counseling- he does something every single week day pertaining to it. The only "jobs" he can work are arranged through a foundation that works with brain damaged patients for menial (I am not even sure if it's min. wage) pay and the purpose is less for financial support and more therapeutic. It's not a job but therapy but it helps him feel like he's working. He needs notes posted all over the house reminding him to do simple things like brush his teeth, turn out the lights, eat his lunch. He's a great daddy but can only be left for short stretches with his son. And his personality totally changed. He knows how his brain should work, how it used to work but it doesn't and that is very difficult for him. He buckles these days. We all do.
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Post by julieb on Feb 21, 2015 14:16:51 GMT
It floors me when I don't see kids in seatbelts. I see it way too often. The rule in our car was that the car didn't move until we were all belted in. Newer cars will start "dinging" if the belt isn't buckled on the driver or passenger side. I'm assuming people buckle them and then sit on the seatbelt.
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Post by artbabe on Feb 21, 2015 14:31:45 GMT
I was in an accident where I was hit 3 times (car was spinning so everyone got a chance to hit me). I walked out of it with just a big bruise across my chest where the shoulder strap was. I never go anywhere without my seat belt but that made me a real believer.
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