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Post by myshelly on Apr 16, 2015 22:49:33 GMT
Here's the thing. Toddler's are still toddler's. All of us were toddler's once. Yet we are still here, and I personally don't remember my parents having constant supervision over us and never letting us out of their site during waking or sleeping hours.. I hate this argument. It's the equivalent of saying I'm old and I don't want to change or learn or improve, so fu(k you. Just because you are old and you survived into your elder years doesn't mean you're smart. It doesn't mean you're right. If there is a better, safer, smarter way to do things - do it. (And for the love of god there's no apostrophe in toddlers the way you used it in your post) |
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Post by finally~a~mama on Apr 17, 2015 0:01:35 GMT
Here's the thing. Toddler's are still toddler's. All of us were toddler's once. Yet we are still here, and I personally don't remember my parents having constant supervision over us and never letting us out of their site during waking or sleeping hours. We grew up with an appropriate amount of supervision that was much less restrictive at home versus public. We also learned as a result what was and wasn't acceptable through punishment and discipline and natural consequences. My brother's in-laws have a HUGE pond in their yard, and yet all 6 grandchildren survived without drowning, and without constant supervision outside. The meds are kept out BECAUSE the grandkids aren't there all the time. Expecting that they wouldn't put their meds out of reach while the kids are staying is crazy. We also never had a parent or grandparent sleeping in the room when we stayed over. How much do you really remember about being a toddler? I remember a few things, but not your average day-to-day stuff like how closely my parents were watching me. Maybe the grandparents will be fine, but it sounds like OP has legitimate concerns. She's not freaking out that they are going to feed her children too many sweets or let them stay up too late. She's worried about medications that aren't out of the reach of little hands and a pond that's not fenced. |
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Post by scrapngranny on Apr 17, 2015 0:14:46 GMT
I'm a MIL and I think you are grasping at straws to find something to worry about. Your kids will be fine they will enjoy their one on one time with their grandparents. Grandma will be extra aware of two little people who are not normally around. The grandparents are going out of their way to watch your kids so you can have a weekend away, give them some credit for not being idiots. Thankfully, this is not an issue I have to deal with, or I would never offer a second time. I know leaving your kids for the first time is tough, but it is an experience you both need.
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Post by scrapApea on Apr 17, 2015 0:46:19 GMT
I'm on the fence, I agree that you have quite a bit to be worried about since it sounds like they are not used to having small kids to watch on a regular basis. They are probably used to their "routine" and kids are anything but routine.
When you said MIL wanted to go to Costco & the farmers market with kids on a Saturday, she's nuts. Why the heck can't she go once you get back? I never understand that. They're probably retired have nothing to do. Stay home when all the working people have to go. Sheesh.
But on the other hand they kids will probably be fine for a couple of days. I think you're going to be the one on the panic train. (I totally get it!!)
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Post by jonda1974 on Apr 17, 2015 2:59:51 GMT
Here's the thing. Toddler's are still toddler's. All of us were toddler's once. Yet we are still here, and I personally don't remember my parents having constant supervision over us and never letting us out of their site during waking or sleeping hours. We grew up with an appropriate amount of supervision that was much less restrictive at home versus public. We also learned as a result what was and wasn't acceptable through punishment and discipline and natural consequences. My brother's in-laws have a HUGE pond in their yard, and yet all 6 grandchildren survived without drowning, and without constant supervision outside. The meds are kept out BECAUSE the grandkids aren't there all the time. Expecting that they wouldn't put their meds out of reach while the kids are staying is crazy. We also never had a parent or grandparent sleeping in the room when we stayed over. But you do realize that there are many toddlers that are NOT still here, right? I agree, chances are nothing bad would happen. But if it did, it doesn't matter how many toddlers survived danger throughout history. When it is YOUR child that dies, it counts. The best solution I can think of is for the OP to tell her in-laws, "Look, I am probably being unrealistically worried about this, but I'm just nervous as can be about a few things. Can we work on those issues, so I won't go crazy while I am away, lol." I would for sure have no trouble asking them to lock up the meds and secure the front door. A cut, a bruise, eh, that happens. But drowning is permanent and so can an accidental overdose be. I'd pass it off as me being silly, and a worrier. People who live their lives in fear of the what ifs, don't really live. Yes, bad things can happen. The OP lives on a big hill that her MIL was injured on. That's not a maybe, that's an already happened. So the OPs residence isn't as safe as she would have us believe. I went ant back and read the post again. I stand by my assessment of helicopter with control issues and irrational fears. She has spent two months convincing them to spend the time at her home. In other words, they didn't agree with her, and it took her 2 months til they caved to her will. MIL mentioned still doing her Costco shopping, so DIL took it upon herself to inform MIL how it had to be done correctly. The pond, was in quotations. Which leads me to believe it's one of those garden ponds and not one of the big swimming type ponds. She doesn't say the meds are laying out, she just says they aren't in the most secure location, but doesn't specify what or where. Given her pickiness, I get the impression anything outside of a safe is 'insecure'. Even she she admits her DH thinks she over reacts. She admits she complains a lot about his family. He's probably sick of hearing it. She is being completely unfair to expect not just her Inlaws, but her DH to abdicate to her will all the time. |
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Post by jonda1974 on Apr 17, 2015 3:05:14 GMT
Here's the thing. Toddler's are still toddler's. All of us were toddler's once. Yet we are still here, and I personally don't remember my parents having constant supervision over us and never letting us out of their site during waking or sleeping hours.. I hate this argument. It's the equivalent of saying I'm old and I don't want to change or learn or improve, so fu(k you. Just because you are old and you survived into your elder years doesn't mean you're smart. It doesn't mean you're right. If there is a better, safer, smarter way to do things - do it. (And for the love of god there's no apostrophe in toddlers or brothers the way you used them in your post) And just because someone is young and has a different way of thinking doesn't make them right either. I get the impression you are probably a helicopter too. Otherwise you wouldn't be so rankled, and you probably hear this argument used towards you a lot. We we can't protect kids from everything, and sometimes fears are irrational. And thanks for correcting my autocorrect. BTW, the possessive apostrophe of my brother was actually correct. Just so you know. |
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Post by eebud on Apr 17, 2015 3:13:49 GMT
I'm on the fence, I agree that you have quite a bit to be worried about since it sounds like they are not used to having small kids to watch on a regular basis. They are probably used to their "routine" and kids are anything but routine. When you said MIL wanted to go to Costco & the farmers market with kids on a Saturday, she's nuts. Why the heck can't she go once you get back? I never understand that. They're probably retired have nothing to do. Stay home when all the working people have to go. Sheesh. But on the other hand they kids will probably be fine for a couple of days. I think you're going to be the one on the panic train. (I totally get it!!) From the OP Obviously MIL is not sitting around the house with nothing to do. She works. |
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Post by jonda1974 on Apr 17, 2015 3:15:12 GMT
Here's the thing. Toddler's are still toddler's. All of us were toddler's once. Yet we are still here, and I personally don't remember my parents having constant supervision over us and never letting us out of their site during waking or sleeping hours. We grew up with an appropriate amount of supervision that was much less restrictive at home versus public. We also learned as a result what was and wasn't acceptable through punishment and discipline and natural consequences. My brother's in-laws have a HUGE pond in their yard, and yet all 6 grandchildren survived without drowning, and without constant supervision outside. The meds are kept out BECAUSE the grandkids aren't there all the time. Expecting that they wouldn't put their meds out of reach while the kids are staying is crazy. We also never had a parent or grandparent sleeping in the room when we stayed over. How much do you really remember about being a toddler? I remember a few things, but not your average day-to-day stuff like how closely my parents were watching me. Maybe the grandparents will be fine, but it sounds like OP has legitimate concerns. She's not freaking out that they are going to feed her children too many sweets or let them stay up too late. She's worried about medications that aren't out of the reach of little hands and a pond that's not fenced. I actually remember quite a bit, and more so with my brother, we are three years apart, I remember my grandparents had a staircase that wasn't blocked off when we went to bed upstairs, I remember they not only had a marble top table, but a fan table that ran during the summer in the middle of their living room. I remember we would go outside and play by ourselves and grandma would check out the window occasionally if she was cooking, or if not, she'd sit in her porch swing while we climbed trees and ran around. My grandfather would sit us on his lap while he took the riding lawnmower out, he'd even let us steer. If we weren't on his lap, he'd hook the wagon to the back and pull us behind it. Our house during that time was a farmhouse in the middle of the country. We'd play outside u fenced on our swing set while mom would be inside doing chores. We'd climb in the corn crib, etc. My other grandma had lots of antiques and glass and we knew to behave differently there than at the other two places. We also took swimming lessons from the time I can remember. |
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Post by jonda1974 on Apr 17, 2015 3:18:39 GMT
I'm on the fence, I agree that you have quite a bit to be worried about since it sounds like they are not used to having small kids to watch on a regular basis. They are probably used to their "routine" and kids are anything but routine. When you said MIL wanted to go to Costco & the farmers market with kids on a Saturday, she's nuts. Why the heck can't she go once you get back? I never understand that. They're probably retired have nothing to do. Stay home when all the working people have to go. Sheesh. But on the other hand they kids will probably be fine for a couple of days. I think you're going to be the one on the panic train. (I totally get it!!) From the OP Obviously MIL is not sitting around the house with nothing to do. She works. And farmers market is usually only on Saturdays. |
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Post by myshelly on Apr 17, 2015 3:21:46 GMT
I hate this argument. It's the equivalent of saying I'm old and I don't want to change or learn or improve, so fu(k you. Just because you are old and you survived into your elder years doesn't mean you're smart. It doesn't mean you're right. If there is a better, safer, smarter way to do things - do it. (And for the love of god there's no apostrophe in toddlers or brothers the way you used them in your post) And just because someone is young and has a different way of thinking doesn't make them right either. I get the impression you are probably a helicopter too. Otherwise you wouldn't be so rankled, and you probably hear this argument used towards you a lot. We we can't protect kids from everything, and sometimes fears are irrational. And thanks for correcting my autocorrect. BTW, the possessive apostrophe of my brother was actually correct. Just so you know. Actually, I've never heard this argument in real life. I've only heard it on the Internet. Does anyone actually use it in real life? |
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Post by happymomma on Apr 17, 2015 3:41:35 GMT
You don't need to be a helicopter anything to want your kids safe. It's a pretty basic hope for a mom to have, in my opinion.
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Post by jonda1974 on Apr 17, 2015 3:55:04 GMT
You don't need to be a helicopter anything to want your kids safe. It's a pretty basic hope for a mom to have, in my opinion. I'm not talking about hope for safety, we would all want that, but being so controlling that others go along just to stop the badgering, and being so overly protective that the kids can't breathe without mom testing the air quality. There's common sense protectiveness and irrational. I think this situation borders on badgering and irrational. |
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Post by mlynn on Apr 17, 2015 3:57:53 GMT
Un, no. They did not initially agree to it. It took you TWO MONTHS to nag them into it.
The medication issue is the same regardless of which home they stay at. So that leaves the pond. Why not buy one of those door handle thingies. Then tell her "I am probably being a bit of a Nervous Nellie here, but would you mind using this while kiddoes are here? 2YO is such a little sneak and that would let me relax a bit more and enjoy our trip."
My nieces stayed at our house (I was a teen and living with my mom) for the first time at the ages of 4 and 2. The 2yo was much more comfortable about it than the 4yo. She was a little skittish about it. But they were both fine. Two is not too young for this.
Staying at her own house will be much easier for the in-laws. She knows where everything is and can have a much easier time cooking, baking cookies, entertaining the kids. At your house, she will have to hunt fopr things and doesn't know the terrain like she does at her place. If the kids don't sleep well, she will pay the price and reconsider staying at your place. But they may sleep just fine. It will turn out ok. I swear. |
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Post by Sarah*H on Apr 17, 2015 12:04:50 GMT
This just makes me laugh. It's really hard to make to a cogent argument that a parent is a "helicopter" when you're talking about toddlers. Nothing that the OP mentioned is irrational when it comes to those fast moving balls of exploration that are toddlers.
OP, I hope you figured it out and came to a resolution with your in-laws.
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Apr 17, 2015 13:09:08 GMT
The adult thing to do would be to tell them your concerns and ask that they be aware of the pond issue etc. And frankly, if you're that worried, stay home. These people are doing YOU a favor.
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Post by christine58 on Apr 17, 2015 13:33:32 GMT
So what did you decide to do?
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Post by whopea on Apr 17, 2015 13:34:01 GMT
You don't need to be a helicopter anything to want your kids safe. It's a pretty basic hope for a mom to have, in my opinion. You are absolutely right. I'm on the fence with your dilemma, OP and here's why. I trust that your in laws are good people and love your children or you wouldn't consider leaving the kiddos for a weekend in their care. My hesitancy enters the picture because they've lived on their own for 50 or so years and haven't had to consider what having young children underfoot really demands. And, yes, safety standards and procedures have changed in those 50 years. I remember when bringing our kid home from the hospital, my mom was surprised that the hospital wouldn't let us leave without watching the baby strapped into a car seat. She said "why, I held you in my arms in the front seat when I brought you home from the hospital and you survived just fine!" Just because it worked then doesn't mean it's acceptable now. There are many red flags in this situation - the pond and medications being the biggest. I would be concerned about those as well. If the in-laws couldn't satisfy me that they would take those things seriously, I would skip the wedding and stay home. A grandparent has a right to spoil the kids with treats and food and maybe outings or something. They don't have the right to ignore the parent's wishes just because they're one step up on the ladder. |
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Post by jonda1974 on Apr 17, 2015 13:35:22 GMT
This just makes me laugh. It's really hard to make to a cogent argument that a parent is a "helicopter" when you're talking about toddlers. Nothing that the OP mentioned is irrational when it comes to those fast moving balls of exploration that are toddlers. OP, I hope you figured it out and came to a resolution with your in-laws. Yes, but she has hounded her in-laws about this for 2 month. It's beating a dead horse. At this point she has gone way over just normal mothering worries and entered into the mom-zilla territory with her husband and inlaws. |
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Post by Lindarina on Apr 17, 2015 13:38:07 GMT
A lot of you are worried about the house not being childproof. But a lot of toddlers live in homes with older siblings, even with a wide age gap. Front doors that are left open, toys for older children, sports equippment, crafting tools etc. And those toddlers are just fine. Yes, freak accidents can happen. Anywhere. One of the big joys of childhood is sleepovers at Grandparents where mommy doesn't get to make the rules  |
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Apr 17, 2015 13:38:55 GMT
jonda1974, when is the last time you were responsible for a two year old? Have you ever done so for an extended amount of time? Even if the OP has some general anxiety about leaving her kids, her fears are not unfounded. An easily accessible pond and unsecured medications are legit concerns with a two year old. I think the four year old is no problem, but two year olds are a whole different matter. I think she should go on her trip and have a good time. The kids will be fine, but I do think her concerns are legitimate and it is fine to address those concerns in a non-confrontational manner.
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Post by jonda1974 on Apr 17, 2015 13:50:19 GMT
You don't need to be a helicopter anything to want your kids safe. It's a pretty basic hope for a mom to have, in my opinion. You are absolutely right. I'm on the fence with your dilemma, OP and here's why. I trust that your in laws are good people and love your children or you wouldn't consider leaving the kiddos for a weekend in their care. My hesitancy enters the picture because they've lived on their own for 50 or so years and haven't had to consider what having young children underfoot really demands. And, yes, safety standards and procedures have changed in those 50 years. I remember when bringing our kid home from the hospital, my mom was surprised that the hospital wouldn't let us leave without watching the baby strapped into a car seat. She said "why, I held you in my arms in the front seat when I brought you home from the hospital and you survived just fine!" Just because it worked then doesn't mean it's acceptable now. There are many red flags in this situation - the pond and medications being the biggest. I would be concerned about those as well. If the in-laws couldn't satisfy me that they would take those things seriously, I would skip the wedding and stay home. A grandparent has a right to spoil the kids with treats and food and maybe outings or something. They don't have the right to ignore the parent's wishes just because they're one step up on the ladder.B1 - Here's the thing though. They haven't been completely recluse. They watched DGD who stayed at their house and survived a couple years ago. No problems. The OP also says that they watched her niece before as well, and FIL actually took the initiative to ask for some help one of the afternoons. That shows that they are on their game on the needs of young children. B2 - Don't forget the 'pond' was in parenthesis. Meaning since it is 4 feet away from the front door, it is a garden pond. Probably like this one.  As far as the meds go. I leave my meds out on the counter when no one is around, but I'm adult enough to put them away when I have company over. She never says though that they are just laying out on the coffee table. She just says they aren't in a secure location. Whatever that means. That could mean the kitchen cabinets or their bedside table. The meds as others have said are just as "insecure" at her house as at her in-laws. Even more so, because they are more limited on where they can "hide" them at another person's house. B3 - It isn't both parents who are in agreement on these issues. Her DH thinks she's out of line and overreacting, and he isn't in agreement with her. He has just as much right to set the rules as she does. |
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Post by whopea on Apr 17, 2015 14:08:56 GMT
You are absolutely right. I'm on the fence with your dilemma, OP and here's why. I trust that your in laws are good people and love your children or you wouldn't consider leaving the kiddos for a weekend in their care. My hesitancy enters the picture because they've lived on their own for 50 or so years and haven't had to consider what having young children underfoot really demands. And, yes, safety standards and procedures have changed in those 50 years. I remember when bringing our kid home from the hospital, my mom was surprised that the hospital wouldn't let us leave without watching the baby strapped into a car seat. She said "why, I held you in my arms in the front seat when I brought you home from the hospital and you survived just fine!" Just because it worked then doesn't mean it's acceptable now. There are many red flags in this situation - the pond and medications being the biggest. I would be concerned about those as well. If the in-laws couldn't satisfy me that they would take those things seriously, I would skip the wedding and stay home. A grandparent has a right to spoil the kids with treats and food and maybe outings or something. They don't have the right to ignore the parent's wishes just because they're one step up on the ladder.B1 - Here's the thing though. They haven't been completely recluse. They watched DGD who stayed at their house and survived a couple years ago. No problems. The OP also says that they watched her niece before as well, and FIL actually took the initiative to ask for some help one of the afternoons. That shows that they are on their game on the needs of young children. B2 - Don't forget the 'pond' was in parenthesis. Meaning since it is 4 feet away from the front door, it is a garden pond. Probably like this one. As far as the meds go. I leave my meds out on the counter when no one is around, but I'm adult enough to put them away when I have company over. She never says though that they are just laying out on the coffee table. She just says they aren't in a secure location. Whatever that means. That could mean the kitchen cabinets or their bedside table. The meds as others have said are just as "insecure" at her house as at her in-laws. Even more so, because they are more limited on where they can "hide" them at another person's house. B3 - It isn't both parents who are in agreement on these issues. Her DH thinks she's out of line and overreacting, and he isn't in agreement with her. He has just as much right to set the rules as she does. B1 - yes they watched dgd a couple years ago. Watching two children is different than watching one and the second child may have a more curious and different temperament than the first child. B2 - a child could still drown in that "pond" you have pictured, especially if they fall and hit their head and are knocked unconscious. Young kids tend to seek out new and different places to explore and will do so if not carefully watched at all times. As far as meds go, secured means in a locked cabinet. Young kids can climb on to counters and open cupboards. For all we know in laws may keep meds in a weekly pill container that any child would find interesting. B3 - DH may have many reasons for not taking on this issue - he may be looking forward to a weekend away and doesn't care much about the details or he may not want to rock the boat with his parents for a variety of reasons. I know in my case, my dh works all day and I stay home. I know a lot more about how my kids behave and what they find interesting than he does. Not because he doesn't care or love them as much as I do, but just because I observe them more. |
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Post by jonda1974 on Apr 17, 2015 14:13:57 GMT
jonda1974, when is the last time you were responsible for a two year old? Have you ever done so for an extended amount of time? Even if the OP has some general anxiety about leaving her kids, her fears are not unfounded. An easily accessible pond and unsecured medications are legit concerns with a two year old. I think the four year old is no problem, but two year olds are a whole different matter. I think she should go on her trip and have a good time. The kids will be fine, but I do think her concerns are legitimate and it is fine to address those concerns in a non-confrontational manner. My youngest niece turns 6 next month, so 4 years. Yes, I have done so for weekends. I did with all four nieces and nephews. I've done it with more younger cousins than I can count. I even did Respite care with kids that were toddler aged as well for several years when I was younger. I also was a babysitter as a teen. One was a 2 year old who would spend the first hour running around in circles and screaming LOL. I have watched them in my family's homes and in my own home. Yes they are exhausting and yes they get into everything. But any responsible adult makes adjustments to their every day behavior when watching kids. Which is why it is unreasonable to continue bringing up the medication issue in regards to her in-laws. And the "easily accessible pond" is a glorified puddle. When my oldest niece was a toddler I lived in a second story apartment with a balcony and sliding glass doors. I had a glass coffee table, and neither my brother or SIL at the time (they are divorced now) had any concerns leaving her with me. It's natural to have concerns, it's NOT natural to badger people for months and let those concerns control you and effect the relationships around you. |
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Post by jonda1974 on Apr 17, 2015 14:21:19 GMT
B1 - Here's the thing though. They haven't been completely recluse. They watched DGD who stayed at their house and survived a couple years ago. No problems. The OP also says that they watched her niece before as well, and FIL actually took the initiative to ask for some help one of the afternoons. That shows that they are on their game on the needs of young children. B2 - Don't forget the 'pond' was in parenthesis. Meaning since it is 4 feet away from the front door, it is a garden pond. Probably like this one. As far as the meds go. I leave my meds out on the counter when no one is around, but I'm adult enough to put them away when I have company over. She never says though that they are just laying out on the coffee table. She just says they aren't in a secure location. Whatever that means. That could mean the kitchen cabinets or their bedside table. The meds as others have said are just as "insecure" at her house as at her in-laws. Even more so, because they are more limited on where they can "hide" them at another person's house. B3 - It isn't both parents who are in agreement on these issues. Her DH thinks she's out of line and overreacting, and he isn't in agreement with her. He has just as much right to set the rules as she does. B1 - yes they watched dgd a couple years ago. Watching two children is different than watching one and the second child may have a more curious and different temperament than the first child. B2 - a child could still drown in that "pond" you have pictured, especially if they fall and hit their head and are knocked unconscious. Young kids tend to seek out new and different places to explore and will do so if not carefully watched at all times. As far as meds go, secured means in a locked cabinet. Young kids can climb on to counters and open cupboards. For all we know in laws may keep meds in a weekly pill container that any child would find interesting. B3 - DH may have many reasons for not taking on this issue - he may be looking forward to a weekend away and doesn't care much about the details or he may not want to rock the boat with his parents for a variety of reasons. I know in my case, my dh works all day and I stay home. I know a lot more about how my kids behave and what they find interesting than he does. Not because he doesn't care or love them as much as I do, but just because I observe them more. B1 - And there is nothing that the OP has said that would lead us to believe that they don't understand this and aren't capable of making the adult decisions necessary for caring for 2 children. B2 - Her son could fall and hit his head on his bed in her home and be knocked unconscious and bleed to death. He could be curious about the toilet and stick his head in there. He could fall down the same hill outside her home that her MIL did. There are a LOT of what-ifs. If the kids are being eagle-eyed 24/7 how would they have time to climb into unlocked cabinets. Also, the meds would be coming to her house. Is she going to give them the key to her locked cabinet assuming she has one. If her children are so misbehaved that they don't know what they can and cannot get into, then there is a discipline problem already. My grandparents had meds laying out on their kitchen counter, neither me nor any of my cousins ever got into them. My mom keeps her meds in a basket on the end table next to where she usually sits. Not one of the grandkids ever got into them. B3 - No, he's actually told his wife she's overreacting and that she needs to handle it if she wants things done her way. She has badgered these poor people for 2 months. If I were them, I'd have given her a big middle finger by this point. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 14:30:19 GMT
My parents are in their early 70's. Sure they did a great job raising 4 kids. But now they are less energetic, forgetful and really don't make good/logical decisions sometimes. I would be very apprehensive about leaving my 2 and 6 yr old with them. OP has every right to be concerned.
OP, you need to go with your gut. If you don't feel comfortable leaving them there, don't.
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Post by Sarah*H on Apr 17, 2015 14:46:31 GMT
I think you are making assumptions in what adjustments "responsible" adults will make when it comes to things like storing medication and making a home safe for toddlers. Some will and some won't. The OP thinks they won't - she knows them, you don't. FWIW, I had one in-law who did and one in-law who didn't and there was one house my young kids visited and one they didn't.
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Post by nurseypants on Apr 17, 2015 15:28:27 GMT
I think you are making assumptions in what adjustments "responsible" adults will make when it comes to things like storing medication and making a home safe for toddlers. Some will and some won't. The OP thinks they won't - she knows them, you don't. FWIW, I had one in-law who did and one in-law who didn't and there was one house my young kids visited and one they didn't. Her husband knows his parents better than she does, and better than you do. He says it's ok. Is he just a stupid man that doesn't care if his children drown or eat medicine? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 15:29:44 GMT
OP, good luck with whatever you decide. For what it's worth, I don't think having worries makes you a helicopter mom--and no one here knows all the details except the people involved. It very well may be that your in-laws aren't that careful, or receptive to your suggestions re safety. On the other hand, I look back to when I was first a mom (I have a wide range of ages with my kids) and many of my worries had much more to do with me than any real dangers. It is hard to leave them and not have all sorts of "what-ifs" running through your mind, even in the best circumstances.
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Post by peppermintpatty on Apr 17, 2015 15:36:16 GMT
My parents are in their early 70's. Sure they did a great job raising 4 kids. But now they are less energetic, forgetful and really don't make good/logical decisions sometimes. I would be very apprehensive about leaving my 2 and 6 yr old with them. OP has every right to be concerned. OP, you need to go with your gut. If you don't feel comfortable leaving them there, don't. She said they were competent. |
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Pearl Clutcher
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Post by peppermintpatty on Apr 17, 2015 15:37:20 GMT
I think it is funny to read these responses and watch the train wreck that comes from people NOT reading the OP correctly and then making assumptions off of other posts when that post was way off base.
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My original pea date was November 1999 and my number was 1803
