CeeScraps
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Post by CeeScraps on May 15, 2015 19:33:01 GMT
He got the death penalty. Which means the whole jury was in agreement for this.
Judge now formally sentences him to death. This will happen in a couple of months.
Mandatory appeal for at least a decade.
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MDscrapaholic
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Post by MDscrapaholic on May 15, 2015 19:34:19 GMT
The jury has spoken! That's a strong message.
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Post by ~Lauren~ on May 15, 2015 19:36:09 GMT
But at least he's in prison during that time. And I'm sure his time in prison is going to be hell from the other inmates.
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Post by elaine on May 15, 2015 19:37:33 GMT
Wow!
I think that if anyone deserves the death penalty, this is a case that fits. However, it makes me incredibly sad that we, the taxpayers, will continue to pay big $$$ for the years/decades-long appeals process. He isn't worth the money we will fritter away on him - I'd rather spend that money on bettering society.
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Post by ~Lauren~ on May 15, 2015 19:40:04 GMT
So what do we do with him? No amount of money bettering society would have made a difference in his actions in this case. His intent was to kill Americans. Even if the verdict was life imprisonment, we'd be paying far more taxpayer dollars. He's 20 years old. He has a life expectancy of more than 60 years.
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Post by elaine on May 15, 2015 19:44:01 GMT
So what do we do with him? No amount of money bettering society would have made a difference in his actions in this case. His intent was to kill Americans. Lauren, I'm not disputing the verdict. I'm more venting at the legal process of the death penalty that makes it so prohibitively long and expensive. I'd rather the sentence were carried out in 6-12 months, with no possibility of appeal in this case since the evidence is so strong. It is a waste of millions of dollars that I'd rather see spent on children in poverty, for example. |
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Post by kandie on May 15, 2015 19:44:21 GMT
Good!!
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~Lauren~
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Post by ~Lauren~ on May 15, 2015 19:45:29 GMT
Gotcha. Sorry I misunderstood
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Post by foolana on May 15, 2015 19:47:38 GMT
I do not believe in the death penalty for anyone. For a society to say it's wrong to murder and then murders someone as punishment is very hypocritical to me. JMHO.
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CeeScraps
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Post by CeeScraps on May 15, 2015 19:48:59 GMT
I feel bad for the families as every time this comes up all of those emotions will be there for them.
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Post by foolana on May 15, 2015 19:49:08 GMT
But at least he's in prison during that time. And I'm sure his time in prison is going to be hell from the other inmates. I'm pretty sure that death row inmates are held in virtual solitary, especially in the supermax prison he's going to. |
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Post by sillyrabbit on May 15, 2015 19:54:46 GMT
Maybe his appeals process will push through quicker than usual. With Tim McVeigh, there wasn't a superlong delay. If I recall correctly, he was sentenced to death in 1997 and executed in 2001.
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~Lauren~
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Post by ~Lauren~ on May 15, 2015 19:56:57 GMT
You could be right. But in that event, solitary for years on end is a hell unto itself.
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Post by akathy on May 15, 2015 19:57:08 GMT
I do not believe in the death penalty for anyone. For a society to say it's wrong to murder and then murders someone as punishment is very hypocritical to me. JMHO. I believe in an eye for an eye. |
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Post by foolana on May 15, 2015 19:58:42 GMT
I do not believe in the death penalty for anyone. For a society to say it's wrong to murder and then murders someone as punishment is very hypocritical to me. JMHO. I believe in an eye for an eye. I completely understand how you feel. I just disagree, that's all. |
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Post by foolana on May 15, 2015 19:59:41 GMT
You could be right. But in that event, solitary for years on end is a hell unto itself. Absolutely. Worse then death sometimes, I think. |
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Post by ~Lauren~ on May 15, 2015 20:01:06 GMT
Murder, by definition, is the intentional unlawful killing of another. In this case, Tsarvaev, had due process of law, was convicted by a jury and sentence to death in a separate jury proceeding. Executing him is NOT murder. Murder is what he did to that 8 year old boy and the others killed in the Boston Bombing
Killing him is retribution and justice.
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Post by conchita on May 15, 2015 20:03:21 GMT
I said in another thread that I was actually surprised they all agreed on the death penalty. I figured he was sure to get life.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 20:05:13 GMT
Maybe his appeals process will push through quicker than usual. With Tim McVeigh, there wasn't a superlong delay. If I recall correctly, he was sentenced to death in 1997 and executed in 2001. I seem to remember that Timothy McVeigh didn't challenge the sentence, so it was carried out fairly quickly. The Boston Bomber was sentenced to death on six of the counts. I'm really glad I wasn't sitting on that jury. I don't think I could keep it together through all that testimony about how the horrors of what he did. |
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Post by foolana on May 15, 2015 20:07:16 GMT
Murder, by definition, is the intentional unlawful killing of another. In this case, Tsarvaev, had due process of law, was convicted by a jury and sentence to death in a separate jury proceeding. Executing him is NOT murder. Murder is what he did to that 8 year old boy and the others killed in the Boston Bombing Killing him is retribution and justice. As I said, JMHO. I don't agree with you. |
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Post by gmcwife1 on May 15, 2015 20:10:20 GMT
So what do we do with him? No amount of money bettering society would have made a difference in his actions in this case. His intent was to kill Americans. Lauren, I'm not disputing the verdict. I'm more venting at the legal process of the death penalty that makes it so prohibitively long and expensive. I'd rather the sentence were carried out in 6-12 months, with no possibility of appeal in this case since the evidence is so strong. It is a waste of millions of dollars that I'd rather see spent on children in poverty, for example. I completely agree with both of you  |
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Post by coffeetalk on May 15, 2015 20:11:02 GMT
Maybe his appeals process will push through quicker than usual. With Tim McVeigh, there wasn't a superlong delay. If I recall correctly, he was sentenced to death in 1997 and executed in 2001. I was watching a live news feed out of Boston and they discussed McVeigh and that he ''agreed to/wanted'' to be executed, so that might account for the shorter appeals process and quicker time between sentencing and execution. |
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Post by sillyrabbit on May 15, 2015 20:13:33 GMT
ahhh...that makes sense.
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Post by moveablefeast on May 15, 2015 20:35:17 GMT
I have such mixed feelings. I am fundamentally anti-DP but I have a real hard time being broken up inside about this guy getting the chair. I felt the same way about McVeigh.
I guess my principle is subject to challenge on this one.
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Post by anxiousmom on May 15, 2015 20:50:03 GMT
I have such mixed feelings. I am fundamentally anti-DP but I have a real hard time being broken up inside about this guy getting the chair. I felt the same way about McVeigh. I guess my principle is subject to challenge on this one. I feel the same way...at very end of the day, I am anti-death penalty. But that sentiment is sorely challenged when faced with some of evil that I see. I won't rejoice in his death sentence, but I won't be protesting and rallying against it either. It is a personal conundrum for sure. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 20:53:25 GMT
I personally am never ever okay with the death penalty. It fundamentally goes against my religious and personal beliefs. I don't think the government should have the power over ones life either. I've gotten heat for my beliefs but they are mine and I never waiver.
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Post by gmcwife1 on May 15, 2015 21:08:19 GMT
I have such mixed feelings. I am fundamentally anti-DP but I have a real hard time being broken up inside about this guy getting the chair. I felt the same way about McVeigh. I guess my principle is subject to challenge on this one. I think I was more against the death penalty until I started reading true crime and some of the things people do to their victims. Just one example: Ted Bundy confessed to killing 30 people in 7 different states and they believe his true victim count could be much higher. He was caught, incarcerated and then escaped twice killing more after his escapes. I can't even post some of the things he did because people would be sickened by them. I think the more I've read and learned of serial killers, sociopaths and other mass murders I have changed my feelings on the death penalty. |
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Post by alittleintrepid on May 15, 2015 21:08:16 GMT
I have such mixed feelings. I am fundamentally anti-DP but I have a real hard time being broken up inside about this guy getting the chair. I felt the same way about McVeigh. I guess my principle is subject to challenge on this one. I'm with you. The death penalty has been so flawed in it's execution (!) from the costs, to the racial bias, and I'm one who believes an "eye for an eye" will leave us all blind. that said, when I think of Martin William Richard, I have no inclination to protest. |
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Post by padresfan619 on May 15, 2015 21:12:38 GMT
For the same of the families and his living victims, I hope he never appeals. They shouldn't have to be forced to reopen those wounds time and time again. I had hoped for life in prison without the possibility of parole so he could just fade into obscurity in his own personal hell in prison.
My thoughts and my compassion goes out to every single person and their families who were affected by this monster.
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Post by salem on May 15, 2015 21:26:22 GMT
I'll say it and nobody has to agree, that's fine. He got the death penalty. As far as I'm concerned they should have taken that little bastard out in the courthouse parking lot and blown his ass sky high. No years of appeals, no protecting him from other inmates, no taxpayer money keeping him in jail. What he did was atrocious pre-meditated murder. He has no place in a society that he hates so much that he is willing to kill or harm as many people as an exploding pressure cooker will reach. He is guilty and he needs to feel that justice now.
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