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Post by anonrefugee on Jun 7, 2015 14:47:59 GMT
Along with what everyone else said about going regardless of potential outcome, your team not going will effect another team, correct? There must be a team that is supposed to play your team and if your team doesn't show up it will effect them too. That parent has a lousy attitude and probably shouldn't have signed her kid up for a traveling team. Excellent point!
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Post by auntkelly on Jun 7, 2015 15:05:53 GMT
Your son's team is never going to make it to the next level unless they are willing to play teams that are better than they are now. I definitely think your son's team should play in the tournament.
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Sarah*H
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Post by Sarah*H on Jun 7, 2015 15:22:55 GMT
If the team qualified, they play. That's part of the commitment when your family signs up for this level of sports.
That being said, ds' soccer team qualified and played in a tournament a couple weeks that they really should not have been in. The result was the loss of 2 key players for the remainder of the season due to injury. Sometimes I think the team manager/coaches need to exercise better judgment about which tournaments to enter in the first place. But once you're in, you're in.
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Post by Kelpea on Jun 7, 2015 16:19:25 GMT
If you make the tourney, you go. Plain and simple. If we'd had that attitude (at this level of comp sports) in the last few years for comp cheer, I wouldn't have bothered taking my daughter to Cheer Worlds twice and The Summit once. There was no way in hell they were gonna place super high up, but man, they earned their spot and damned if they weren't going to enjoy it.
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Nanner
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Post by Nanner on Jun 7, 2015 17:13:46 GMT
When DS was younger, we drove 6 hours for a tournament, spent 2 nights in a hotel - and they lost every game. But he had a blast. I would never have taken that away from him.
They should still go. They earned that spot.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jun 7, 2015 22:23:17 GMT
Lots of great points here. Thanks! I hope the conversation doesn't go any further than the parents bringing it up to the coach last night.
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Post by Outspoken on Jun 7, 2015 23:08:23 GMT
I would like to say that I would LOVE to coach. In my head I coach all day long. And I think I could have a great team. I just know my team would not have my son. He would high tail it out of there in embarrassment. But the coaches crack up as I hit him balls to catch! Being a girl stinks at time ? You aren't alone! My DH used to work on the road 9 months out of the year and I have thrown many warm ups and caught my share of bull pens. I am a girly girl, too. So, I had to learn A LOT! We have driven 4 hours and sat in a hotel room waiting for rain to stop, all to have the tournament cancelled. It happens. My suggestion would be that if the team can play without the child of this complaining parent, to offer to let him miss. If they can't go and be supportive, you may play better without them.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jun 8, 2015 3:19:22 GMT
Hopefully everyone on the 12 year old's team/parents will have better outlooks next week. My 10 year old lost both of his games as well but they played well and they left feeling good. Is it one parent or is it "everyone"? One parent doesn't get to make the decision and If in it odd that one parent would approach the coaches with that kind of attitude. Clearly someone isn't cut out for competitive sports. If it's "everyone" as you said in this post, then there is more going on here. Sorry, I wasn't clear. Most of the parents and kids were frustrated and discouraged at the end of the tournament this weekend, but only one set of parents (actually, I think it was just the mom) was talking to the coaches about not going to the tournament as far as I know. It is a very good point about the number of teams being off if we don't go, among other reasons not to forfeit. This parent does seem to be very involved in the games and has opinions on what should have been done, etc. Her son has a birthday that is close to the cutoff so he could play with the kids in the grade he is in (7th) or play with the kids a year younger. Last year he played with the older kids but decided that this year he wanted to play with the younger kids. DS said it was because the competition was too tough on the other team (not sure if that meant the other kids on his team were better than him and he thought he could be more of a standout player with this team, or if it was more about the teams they would be playing, or what). The mother made comments about the team he was on last year being better and that they still did horribly at the Tournament of Champions, etc.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jun 8, 2015 3:29:07 GMT
I am an a travel team with my 10 year old son. Drove an hour away with twin 2 year old boys and watched a 12:00 and 4:30 game. We won one and lost another. Long day for all of us. And I'm driving back tomorrow for another day of it. If you want to pick where you play and have a say in tournament play then step up and be a couch. Otherwise pack yourself a bag and a chair and settle in for some ball. I think that is such a shitty attitude. Many great lessons can come off of a loss! Maybe someone needs to tell that to the parent! It does make for a long day, doesn't it? My 10 year old had a tournament today as well so I took the 4 and 6 year old to his two games (an hour away) and then came home and watched two of the 12 year old's games. We go back tomorrow for at least one more game for the 10 year old. It's fun but tiring! Hopefully everyone on the 12 year old's team/parents will have better outlooks next week. My 10 year old lost both of his games as well but they played well and they left feeling good. Just realized that I said my youngest is 4, but he is actually 3. That tells you what kind of day it was yesterday! lol I am usually having to entertain them during the games by throwing wiffleballs while they hit. It is fun for awhile but then I would like to just sit down and watch the game!
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Post by cadoodlebug on Jun 8, 2015 3:33:32 GMT
That's horrible. If all coaches felt that way it would set such a horrible example to kids. They obviously think winning is the only thing to teach those boys.
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Post by littlemama on Jun 8, 2015 16:08:14 GMT
Is it one parent or is it "everyone"? One parent doesn't get to make the decision and If in it odd that one parent would approach the coaches with that kind of attitude. Clearly someone isn't cut out for competitive sports. If it's "everyone" as you said in this post, then there is more going on here. Sorry, I wasn't clear. Most of the parents and kids were frustrated and discouraged at the end of the tournament this weekend, but only one set of parents (actually, I think it was just the mom) was talking to the coaches about not going to the tournament as far as I know. It is a very good point about the number of teams being off if we don't go, among other reasons not to forfeit. This parent does seem to be very involved in the games and has opinions on what should have been done, etc. Her son has a birthday that is close to the cutoff so he could play with the kids in the grade he is in (7th) or play with the kids a year younger. Last year he played with the older kids but decided that this year he wanted to play with the younger kids. DS said it was because the competition was too tough on the other team (not sure if that meant the other kids on his team were better than him and he thought he could be more of a standout player with this team, or if it was more about the teams they would be playing, or what). The mother made comments about the team he was on last year being better and that they still did horribly at the Tournament of Champions, etc. Well, of course everyone is going to be disappointed and frustrated at not winning a single game in a tournament, but it happens, people move on, and life continues. As for princess mommy, it sounds like she and her son are not cut out for competition in life or in sports. She can express her opinion, which she did, and then the coaches can have a big eyeroll when she walks away, and not discuss it again.
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