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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Jun 17, 2015 16:09:02 GMT
Curious about how you like it and whether you feel it saves money. I have a dog, and we're about to add 2 kittens to our home. I have the option of adding pet insurance through work.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 16:12:23 GMT
No, I don't. There are so many exclusions, that I don't think it's a good value. Certainly, there are some people who get their money's worth and more out of it, but it's more common that when they try to make a claim, they end up getting less than they expected, if anything at all.
We have a line item in our budget for pet healthcare each month and it rolls forward indefinitely until it's needed. I'd rather do it that way than pay for premiums that we'll probably never be able to recoup.
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Jun 17, 2015 16:17:50 GMT
That is exactly why I am asking - I've always thought it probably wouldn't pay off, but pet care for just my dog seems to be getting more and more expensive, and he has never had any kind of illness or issue. It may be that I need to do some comparison shopping for vets.
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Post by pjaye on Jun 17, 2015 16:31:40 GMT
Yes, I do.
However you need to be fully aware of what you are getting, what is covered and what will not be. Each insurance will have a supporting policy document and you need to read every word that carefully and if you understand what you are signing up for and decide if it is still worth it, then you'll probably be happy. You can't just sign up and "assume" every illness will be covered, they won't be and it's people who don't do that who then bitch and moan when their claims are denied. The documents clearly state any exclusions and the conditions under which claims will not be paid, you need to understand what they are.
I haven't looked into any companies in the USA, but they are probably similar to those here (Au) One example is that only medical tests that diagnose a covered medical condition will be eligible. So when my cat got sick last year and she needed a CT scan...it cost me $1200, if the scan had been clear and nothing found then that money is out of my pocket, no claim. In our case it did diagnose her with cancer, so in that case it was covered and I got 80% of that back. People incorrectly assume that every test a vet orders will be covered, but it isn't.
I have pet insurance for the "big stuff" cancer, major surgery etc. It's not for dental work and routine care. Millie got diagnosed with lymphoma and thyroid disease and in the 4 months before she died my vet bills were close to $4000. I paid a $200 excess and got 80% of the total back. Her total insurance costs over the previous 5 years came to about $1200 ($20 month) Also 3 years ago she had a lump removed form her neck which was also fully covered and I got about $900 back that time. During that time none of her routine care, vaccinations, worming etc were covered, she also had cat flu and periodically needed antibiotics and eye drops etc and none of that was covered...but I always knew that wouldn't be. So financially it was worth having her insured, even though there were still other conditions that I paid out of pocket for that were not covered by her insurance. On the other hand I have Angelique who has been insured for 9 years and never made a single claim on her. But a cancer, swallowing a foreign body, thyroid disease or diabetes and I could easily make a few thousand dollars worth of claims within a few months, which is why I'll keep it.
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Post by MizIndependent on Jun 17, 2015 16:34:52 GMT
pjaye, what insurance do you have, if you don't mind sharing. I'm looking for some for my Lucy. Would have come in very handy with her recent issues.
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Post by Dori~Mama~Bear on Jun 17, 2015 16:39:49 GMT
We don't but our vet doesn't accept pet insurance because he charges less than all other vets in the area. He feels that affordable health care for pets is more important than being rich. He is also the busiest vet in town. They have 10 doctors out there and they are always swamped with people and their pets. It is only $19 for an office visit. Most meds are $5.
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Post by giatocj on Jun 17, 2015 16:40:26 GMT
We do not. We opted to put a certain amount of money in an account each month to use for Tucker's care. He has a nice little nest egg built up there since, knock on wood, it's only been needed for routine care and medications.
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Post by pjaye on Jun 17, 2015 16:43:03 GMT
I'm in Australia though (not sure where you are?) I went with Medibank Private which is underwritten by a company called Hollard (it's the underwriters that decide the policy contents). I went with them because that's who I am insured with and it meant I got a 10% discount on Angelique's policy and when Millie came along I got 15% off her cover because she was the second pet I had signed up (it was beneficial to stay with the one company).
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Post by blondiec47 on Jun 17, 2015 16:44:49 GMT
I used www.petinsurancereview.com--it was very helpful in comparing companies and telling you what is covered and what is not. There are also many helpful reviews We use Trupanion, it is a little more expensive as they breed rate and we have Bulldogs, but they have covered both of Jax's knee surgeries and an illness for Ozzy. And because we switched when we got Jax they even cover his hips. So far with insurance we have gotten much more out then we have paid in
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Post by blondiec47 on Jun 17, 2015 16:47:53 GMT
We don't but our vet doesn't accept pet insurance because he charges less than all other vets in the area. He feels that affordable health care for pets is more important than being rich. He is also the busiest vet in town. They have 10 doctors out there and they are always swamped with people and their pets. It is only $19 for an office visit. Most meds are $5. Out vet doesn't bill insurance directly, we pay then we send the claim in, but they always pay quickly
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 16:49:58 GMT
VPI, the biggest issuer, does not cover any kind of hip dysplasia, period, end of story. Just FYI. My BFF learned that the hard way when their brand new puppy they adopted from the shelter showed signs of severe dysplasia at 4 months of age. They wouldn't even cover the x-ray to diagnose it.
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Post by blondiec47 on Jun 17, 2015 16:51:43 GMT
VPI, the biggest issuer, does not cover any kind of hip dysplasia, period, end of story. Just FYI. My BFF learned that the hard way when their brand new puppy they adopted from the shelter showed signs of severe dysplasia at 4 months of age. They wouldn't even cover the x-ray to diagnose it. With Trupanion if you insure within the first 6 months they will cover hips (I think it's six months it's been a while since Jax was a pup)
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Post by calgal08 on Jun 17, 2015 17:02:31 GMT
We've had pet insurance for all our dogs. Yes, I'm pretty sure per year we've pay more in monthly fees than we ever claim back, but for me it's peace of mind. We have VPI premium policies, which includes heartguard and annual check-ups.
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Post by pjaye on Jun 17, 2015 17:02:56 GMT
VPI, the biggest issuer, does not cover any kind of hip dysplasia, period, end of story. Just FYI. My BFF learned that the hard way when their brand new puppy they adopted from the shelter showed signs of severe dysplasia at 4 months of age. They wouldn't even cover the x-ray to diagnose it. The company I am with does, however it can't be pre-existing, in a 4 month old puppy, that would definitely be considered pre-existing and I can see why it wouldn't be covered. To qualify as "pre-existing" there can't have been any signs or symptoms present of the condition at the time of insurance or in the specified time frame preceding it (usually 12 months). Insurance companies aren't in the business of giving you cheaper vet care...that's just a fact of life. They are still a company that has shareholders and their "business" is to make money. They are not going to insure a pet that will need thousands of dollars worth of surgery within the first few months of signing up. So from an insurance point of view, then doing an x-ray isn't going to change anything and it won' be covered because at 4 months the condition isn't covered.
You need to be realistic about insurance companies and what they do, harsh but true, they aren't there for you or your pet and they aren't there to save you money. Same with human health insurance, e.g. you can't sign up for pregnancy and birth cover when you are already pregnant.
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Post by Patter on Jun 17, 2015 18:00:12 GMT
We have 4 dogs and 2 parrots, and we have chosen not to get it. I priced it, and it did not seem worth it to me.
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Jun 17, 2015 18:07:52 GMT
VPI is the one offered through work. Does anyone know if they pay quickly? I know it would be a pay then get reimbursed situation. I would probably get a major medical plus wellness plan. I think the Wellness plan might save me money; I haven't had to deal with any major medical with any of my pets.
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Jun 17, 2015 18:09:40 GMT
We don't but our vet doesn't accept pet insurance because he charges less than all other vets in the area. He feels that affordable health care for pets is more important than being rich. He is also the busiest vet in town. They have 10 doctors out there and they are always swamped with people and their pets. It is only $19 for an office visit. Most meds are $5. I would love to find a vet like that! I don't think I have ever walked out for less than $150.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 18:14:32 GMT
VPI is the one offered through work. Does anyone know if they pay quickly? I know it would be a pay then get reimbursed situation. I would probably get a major medical plus wellness plan. I think the Wellness plan might save me money; I haven't had to deal with any major medical with any of my pets. I would check with your vet about wellness plans. Almost all the vets around here offer them and they are generally better prices than through VPI.
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Post by peppermintpatty on Jun 17, 2015 18:16:30 GMT
I priced it out as well and it didn't seem worth it to me because they only covered catastrophic issues not routine care. Banfield has the routine care program but I won't take my pup there.
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Post by Sam on Jun 17, 2015 18:17:41 GMT
We have it for our cat - the first time he went to the vet, the cost of treatment was more than we had paid so far in premiums so it was/is worth it for us. The cost they gave for treatment which did not include surgical intervention shocked me, to be honest, especially as I get medical treatment under the NHS over here so never see a breakdown of the cost of that treatment. However, I am tempted to say 'no' when they ask if I have insurance and then see how much that bill works out at!! Especially when I know from having had a prang with my car some time ago that the work done is cheaper when it doesn't go through the insurance company (at least in the experience I had and asking at way more than one mechanic's business).
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Post by iowgirl on Jun 17, 2015 18:21:38 GMT
For $40 they would come to my house! LOL Good gravy, your vet bills are INSANE! I never had vet bills that high for my horse!
Our vets are large animal vets and do all our work. If they are coming out of a scheduled call (castrating, vaccinating cattle, etc) they will just bring the rabies vac and whatever else they need and only charge the vaccine cost - which isn't much. They will also vaccinate any cat "I" am willing to catch - lol
I think my vet bill was around $10K last year - and that was for 800 cows, 3 horses, 2 dogs, and an assortment of kitties.
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Post by Rhondito on Jun 17, 2015 18:31:38 GMT
We don't but our vet doesn't accept pet insurance because he charges less than all other vets in the area. He feels that affordable health care for pets is more important than being rich. He is also the busiest vet in town. They have 10 doctors out there and they are always swamped with people and their pets. It is only $19 for an office visit. Most meds are $5. I would love to find a vet like that! I don't think I have ever walked out for less than $150. Jennifer, my coworker uses Oakdale Animal Hospital on Hwy 471. A few months ago my dog and her dog got sick with the same gastrointestinal virus - I went to Petsmart's vet and ended up paying almost $100 more than she did for the exact same treatment & meds. I plan on using her vet the next time we need one.
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Jun 17, 2015 18:47:45 GMT
I would love to find a vet like that! I don't think I have ever walked out for less than $150. Jennifer, my coworker uses Oakdale Animal Hospital on Hwy 471. A few months ago my dog and her dog got sick with the same gastrointestinal virus - I went to Petsmart's vet and ended up paying almost $100 more than she did for the exact same treatment & meds. I plan on using her vet the next time we need one. Thank you for the recommendation! I might check them out when I get the kittens. I lived very close to that location when I first moved here.
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Post by smokeynspike on Jun 18, 2015 4:38:39 GMT
My DH's work offers it, but it didn't seem to make sense to us for our kitties. We just have a Care Credit card that will give us zero percent interest that we love for any times where it is a large bill and we want to spread it out over time instead of paying all at once. Love that thing.
Melissa
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Post by 950nancy on Jun 18, 2015 4:51:16 GMT
I need it. I have a six million dollar dog. She is on four meds every day.
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Post by mirabelleswalker on Jun 18, 2015 5:04:37 GMT
We don't but our vet doesn't accept pet insurance because he charges less than all other vets in the area. He feels that affordable health care for pets is more important than being rich. He is also the busiest vet in town. They have 10 doctors out there and they are always swamped with people and their pets. It is only $19 for an office visit. Most meds are $5. I don't think most vets accept pet insurance. You pay the bill and then you apply for reimbursement directly. But at those office visit rates, you probably don't need insurance. A visit with our vet is $65 minimum. I have it. I have mixed feelings about it. My dog just had knee surgery and I expect to get back about 1/3 of the cost, but that is only about $200 over the cost of the insurance. So is it really worth it? I have VPI but our vet recommends Trupanion.
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Post by pmk on Jun 18, 2015 5:58:34 GMT
We do have pet insurance for our 2 dogs (and had for our third dog before she died). It sounds like our system in the UK is very different to yours though because we've never had an issue with claims being excluded. We have an excess to pay so sometimes we don't bother claiming, but otherwise we've been glad to have it.
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