YooHoot
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Post by YooHoot on Jun 21, 2015 18:06:49 GMT
I have an IUD. My dd is on the birth control pill but wants to switch to the Norplant. I remember the Norplant being around for a long time but for some reason I remember bad things about it? Anyone have it or know someone that does? Positive/negative comments are appreciated. Just trying to help her make a decision.
thanks!
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scrappinspidey2
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Post by scrappinspidey2 on Jun 21, 2015 18:13:30 GMT
I had it over 20+ years ago. The first few years it was awesome. Then I started bleeding, heavily and often. Docs tried a bunch of things to get it to stop but it wouldn't. I had them take it out. Unfortunately it wasn't inserted properly and they had to literally dig around in my arm for it so I have a beautiful scar on my arm now. Another friend of mine had her cancer linked to the norplant. I don't know if things have changed in the 20 years since I and it but I wouldn't recommend it after my experience.
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YooHoot
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Post by YooHoot on Jun 21, 2015 23:20:51 GMT
Thanks for the info. Reading online a little too.
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melissa
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Post by melissa on Jun 21, 2015 23:53:42 GMT
As a physician, I learned about Norplant during my training. One of the hospitals where I trained was one of the original test sites. So, when the product was actually released on the general market, we had patients who were already on their second Norplant. I truly felt as if the study patients (who got it for free) were more accepting of side effects and overall happier with the medication than those who got it later on. From those who got it once it was released to the market, it was a love/hate thing. Women either loved it or hated it.
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YooHoot
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Post by YooHoot on Jun 21, 2015 23:56:33 GMT
Thanks Melissa. Kind of like my IUD. hated it for about 6 months. Love it now.
Do you have any suggestions for a young adult, not married, no kids?
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grammanisi
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Post by grammanisi on Jun 22, 2015 1:13:55 GMT
My daughter had Norplant 21 years ago. And had the same problem when having it removed. I couldn't believe how much trouble the dortor had when removing it.
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Post by dockmaster on Jun 22, 2015 1:31:00 GMT
I had it inserted 23 years ago by a Navy Dr. It was great for about 3 years and then the bleeding started. They tried additional hormones, but I eventually had it removed. It was inserted correctly and the removal was simple. I had a small scar for a while, but nothing but a dimple now.
I thought they took it off the market several years ago; however, I have heard there is a new and improved version out there.
Norplant worked great for me until it didn't.
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my3freaks
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Post by my3freaks on Jun 22, 2015 2:07:04 GMT
I also had Norplant when I was around 18 or 19, so I guess around 1992/1993. I had a horrible experience with it. Horrible, heavy periods that were happening way to often, I was anemic, I had almost constant PMS and weight loss. I would be pretty happy with the weight loss now, but at the time, I didn't need to lose weight. I was so miserable, after almost a year that I told the doctor to take it out or I would dig it out myself.
All that being said, I think it was off the market for quite a while, so I'm sure there have been a lot of changes. I would make sure she asks a lot of questions before she decides on it. Is your daughter not interested in an IUD or a Depo shot maybe?
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Post by AN on Jun 22, 2015 4:04:39 GMT
I don't believe Norplant is avaliable anymore. What is available now (to my knowledge) is Nexplanon, formerly Implanon. They are the same except one can be seen on an xray. It is an arm implant but quite different from Norplant.
I am on my second Nexplanon, and it is amazing. I love it so much. More effective than sterilization (seriously) and a low dose hormones compared to the pills. Easy insertion. I am actually quite frustrated I didn't know about it earlier. I don't know why it isn't more talked about.
That said, about 10% of women (if I remember my stats right) have it removed due to unpredictable periods/bleeding. My doc said about 1/3 keep getting periods as usual, 1/3 stop getting periods, and 1/3 have unpredictable but frequent or prolonged bleeding. She said there is some evidence that having it inserted during the first 5 days of your period increases your chances of not having the irregular bleeding.
I had it put in both times during the first 5 days of my cyclean and have been lucky, my period goes away for the first 14 months or so and then gradually comes back but not any heavier or longer. Like it came back every 4 months for awhile, then every 2.5 months, etc. It never got any more often than every 9 weeks. I had it taken out at 2.5 years, took about 6 months off (not related to the implant, you can have the next one put in at same time), and then got a new one put in. It is good for 3 years. I couldn't freaking wait. I will not go back to the pill unless I need really short term birth control. My doc the second time (we moved) said she lets women keep using it until at least age 50 because the hormones are safer than the pill.
I recommend it so so so highly. It is very different than all the bad stories about Norplant, but people think it is the same since it is an arm implant. I researched all options (IUD - both types, different pills, ring, patch, etc), and as long as she is willing to take the chance on the bleeding, I would go for it.
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Anita
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Post by Anita on Jun 22, 2015 4:15:21 GMT
I had Norplant over 20 years ago. I wouldn't recommend it to my worst enemy. It was an awful experience made worse by a doctor who refused to take it out when I requested that it be removed. I honestly thought it was taken off the market, as well it should be.
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Post by darkangel090260 on Jun 22, 2015 6:37:57 GMT
i had it put in around 94 it was great for me. I stop my cycle until i had it taken out about 5 year later.
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Post by AN on Jun 22, 2015 12:36:25 GMT
A couple more thoughts on Nexplanon (Norplant was taken off the market in 2002 in the US, by the way). It is only one rod, vs thr multiple rods of Norplant and they have a super foolproof insertion tool. If she gets it, they will put steri strips on the insertion site and then a pressure bandage that should stay on for 24 hours. I recommend putting an Ace Bandage around her upper arm. Not super tight, but it provides some support and protection, and for me cut down on bruising. It can leave a spectacular bruise after insertion (very normal). It doesn't really hurt much though, for me the steri strips tugging on my skin was the most painful part.
I got mine done at Planned Parenthood the second time because my doctor wasn't super familiar with it. While the insertion tool has been made almost fool proof, in the earlier days there were a few reported problems with it being inserted too deep (almost impossible now). I felt more comfortable with someone who had put in hundreds and hundreds.
I had to pay our of pocket for mine (grandfathered insurance plan, ughhhh), abut $800 this most recent time. I paid $400 the first time. Worth every single penny, and cheaper than 3 years of pills for me. Hopefully hers will be covered.
I honestly don't really understand why someone would get a hormonal IUD with the implant available, although to be fair, I can see if they were concerned about the irregular bleeding. IUD stats are better on that. While IUDs are extremely safe and effective, when shit goes wrong... it is in a place in your body where it can really do some damage. I guess my view is colored because I have had 2 friends with Mirena where they had tubal pregnancies, and one where it got embedded in the uterus and took 2 surgeries (pretty involved) to have it removed. I know statistically that is unlikely, but to me if you want kids in the future, the implant carries less risks. Fertility returns immediately after removal, my vast majority of women get their period back within 6 weeks from what I read (as opposed to Depo which can take awhile).
Honestly, these stories about Norplant are like asking "Did anyone have a Ford Taurus in 1990? Tell me about the 2015 Ford Focus!" Haha
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Post by dockmaster on Jun 22, 2015 15:51:46 GMT
I was pretty sure it had been taken off the market too. I am with you AN if I needed BC these days, I would get the implant. Norplant worked great for about 3 years and once it was removed I had no problems getting pregnant.
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marimoose
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Post by marimoose on Jun 22, 2015 16:49:50 GMT
My daughter had it and is in the hate side of it. She had non stop break throughout bleeding for the entire year she tried it. Weight gain, extreme mood swings, etc. She switched to a non-hormonal iud and has had no issues at all.
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Post by AN on Jun 22, 2015 17:12:34 GMT
My daughter had it and is in the hate side of it. She had non stop break throughout bleeding for the entire year she tried it. Weight gain, extreme mood swings, etc. She switched to a non-hormonal iud and has had no issues at all. A very common side effect of the copper IUD is heavier periods and worse cramping. I looked into it seriously though, 10 years of birth control and no hormones is pretty appealing. Insertion can be pretty painful for women without children, and sometimes difficult depending on how open the cervix is (from what I have read). Until 2005, Paragard was not FDA approved for women who had not yet had children. Definitely a great option for long term BC, but at least as likely to have heavier periods as you are to have breakthrough bleeding with Nexplanon. It is less effective too (although the difference is negligible once you get to that level of effectiveness, so I wouldn't decide based on that). You'd think I sell Nexplanon with how much I love it! It just has been awesome for me and I really can't believe I didn't know about it earlier. I think there is a lot of negative beliefs about implants lingering from Norplant daya.
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Post by marimoose on Jun 22, 2015 17:19:48 GMT
My daughter had it and is in the hate side of it. She had non stop break throughout bleeding for the entire year she tried it. Weight gain, extreme mood swings, etc. She switched to a non-hormonal iud and has had no issues at all. A very common side effect of the copper IUD is heavier periods and worse cramping. I looked into it seriously though, 10 years of birth control and no hormones is pretty appealing. Insertion can be pretty painful for women without children, and sometimes difficult depending on how open the cervix is (from what I have read). Until 2005, Paragard was not FDA approved for women who had not yet had children. Definitely a great option for long term BC, but at least as likely to have heavier periods as you are to have breakthrough bleeding with Nexplanon. It is less effective too (although the difference is negligible once you get to that level of effectiveness, so I wouldn't decide based on that). You'd think I sell Nexplanon with how much I love it! It just has been awesome for me and I really can't believe I didn't know about it earlier. I think there is a lot of negative beliefs about implants lingering from Norplant daya. Like anything else, I think it varies from case to case. The new implants are far different from those of years past. My older stepdaughter had the norplant and what a mess that was. My daughter didn't do well with it but compared to the stepsister, it was a walk in the park. Great thing that there are so many choices out there. I know there are many who do love the implants and I am glad it works for you I will add that if someone tries the Nexplanon, they need to be prepared to give it a year before most doctors will consider removing it.
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Post by AN on Jun 22, 2015 17:27:33 GMT
It does vary! And don't we all wish there was a way to figure out ahead of time which one is best for us? Boo! Apparently a non-hormonal male birth control pill is in human testing now (I feel like we have heard about this for 2 decades), maybe they can take on some of the burden!
Good point about being willing to wait to see how it plays out. I think that is true of both IUDs and the implant. If insurance will cover it, it isn't a big deal to have it taken out and switch to the other, but if not it is very costly. My doc at Planned Parenthood said she tries to convince people to wait at least 6 months with either option and see how it levels out, but she will take it out sooner if they are unhappy. I can't say enough good things about getting it done at PP (and I am 30 and insured, with good doctors... but I wanted experience!).
What tipped me more to the implant vs IUD, everything else aside, was I felt more comfortable going with the least invasive option and then going up if I wasn't happy with that. To me an IUD is more invasive and riskier. And tons of women love them! But for OPs daughter, it may be similar, the implant seems less "up in your business" (LOL) than an IUD.
Oh, and I use a Diva cup and was freaked out about accidentally pulling the IUD strings. Hahaha
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Post by mlana on Jun 22, 2015 17:40:39 GMT
My DD has the new implant and she is pretty pleased with it. Our insurance covered it entirely, not even a copay, and the insertion was textbook. She has a history of frequent, long periods when not on bc and break thru bleeding when on bc, so we had some concerns going in. At first she did have a period every 3 weeks, but they were shorter than a normal period. At the 6 month mark, her periods were reduced to a bit of break thru type bleeding one day a month, which she says she can definitely live with.
For DD, the only downside has been that the dose of hormones is so low, she is having her first real experience with acne. LOL She has been on one form of bc or another since she was 12, and all of them had enough hormones that she never had any teenage acne. Now she is almost 21 and is having breakouts. Nothing horrific, just a few zits around the time of the break thru bleeding.
Marcy
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Anita
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Post by Anita on Jun 23, 2015 3:54:23 GMT
I had an IUD for many years after the birth of my second child. I'll take that any day over Norplant. Shudder. Personally, I consider Norplant far more invasive than an IUD. They had to literally dig the Norplant out of my arm. And that was the most pleasant part of having that thing in me. I had rapid weight gain, heavy periods, and the mood swings on that thing were unreal. I really hope whatever they replaced it with is an improvement. But like you said, your mileage will vary.
I am glad to hear the original Norplant is off the market.
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